The FA Cup

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:22 pm

First topic message reminder :

Well, nothing on here much for discussion so thought this could begin.

At the moment Westisbest is probably pulling his hair out, whilst Wigan are marching on towards there second FA Cup in a row.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:31 pm

Respect to forest though . if you didn't know these teams and had to guess which was the PL team it wouldn't be west ham.

Is Sam going to go soon?

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:31 pm

Yeah he is a class player Mysti, but he just simply isn't ready for the World Cup. A game like today just simply proves that.

West Ham have looked like a poor Championship side today. Completely outclassed by Forest.

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:31 pm

Good shift by Halford

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:32 pm

Young lads not really ready for this, been mugged a bit by the formation too. Liked the way they've tried to play it neat. Don't look near as fit or as strong, plus these are proper players they're up against, not dev squad lads.

Funny, Ravel has a game back from a little injury in a game we're not playing well, doesn't play well then isn't good anymore. 20 years old

by **Crimey** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:33 pm

I can't wait for the world to return to normal where people stop holding up Huddlestone as the pinnacle of Premier League midfielders.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:34 pm

We are all rating ravael dolphin. Just not ready yet.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:35 pm

[quote="Crimey"]I can't wait for the world to return to normal where people stop holding up Huddlestone as the pinnacle of Premier League midfielders. [/quote
His work rate is good. Very good. That's all that's been said

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:35 pm

It is a West Ham youth team after all

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:36 pm

4-0

Patterson is class. What a hatrick.

If West Ham want to stay up that numpty big Sam needs to go. Rubbish manager.

by **Crimey** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:36 pm

Think this result is really going to pile the pressure on Allardyce. Symbolically awful.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:36 pm

4-0

This is embarrassing.

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:37 pm

That said, it's more on Big Sams tactics today. West Ham were poorly prepared

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:38 pm

Loved your retweet Nick, absolute Muppet nonsense on the long ball, it's as if you've not been watching.

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:39 pm

The pressure will come for the next game. Hard to justify this if you lose the next game

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:40 pm

Again, most fans will understand we've got barely any fit players, 3 games in 7 days and the cups can't be a priority. And that this is a team that's got 8 players younger than me. Knee jerkers will react, a lot of others wont

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:40 pm

So you are still backing big Sam?

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:41 pm

Hull are just trying to squeeze us for more cash for Hobbs. I'd be surprised if he went anywhere else

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:42 pm

Development squad or not. West Ham have been dreadful. Outclassed by a Forest side, who isn't at full strength anyway.

LOL at there fans crying on the telly!!!

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:43 pm

Moussi the only non regular Nick and he's been on loan. Patersons been in and out

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:45 pm

This game really has no effect on whether I'd back Sam or not. The young ones that come back well from this are the ones that will make it. Been missing our two best under 21 defenders too, not sure why Ruddock (no relation) and Chambers aren't there.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:46 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Development squad or not. West Ham have been dreadful. Outclassed by a Forest side, who isn't at full strength anyway.

LOL at there fans crying on the telly!!!

Little boy cries at football. Megalolz. Grow up you sad Kumquat

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:47 pm

Yes but we both know this is not only about this game. Its about the previous 20.

So as asked do you still back him?

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:48 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:Development squad or not. West Ham have been dreadful. Outclassed by a Forest side, who isn't at full strength anyway.

LOL at there fans crying on the telly!!!

Little boy cries at football. Megalolz. Grow up you sad Kumquat

5-0

by Guest Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:48 pm

Being out of the cup wouldn't bother me one bit if I was a West Ham fan.

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:50 pm

Lmao going for 6

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:50 pm

The West Ham fans i follow on twitter and am friends with on facebook are going nuts.

Forest have been outstanding. West Ham beyond dreadful.

If Citeh smash west ham on wednesday night. I think that's it for Sam.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:50 pm

I didn't raise an eyelid when palace won its not important. But getting beat 5-0 hurts. You know it does.

But let's forget west Ham for a bit.

Well played forest . great football.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:51 pm

I'm not really sure where I stand Mysti, it's hard to tell whether we'll improve when all the injured players come back or not.

Nick, an extra goal really doesn't change my mood. I never expected to win, once we got opened up we fell to pieces because they're young lads. Sadly, I expected you had a life, but as ever I was wrong

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:52 pm

Also Big Sam is the 13th highest paid manager in the world!!!!

I think managers need to get into there heads, most fans love the FA Cup.

by **Crimey** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:52 pm

Yeah, that's why I said symbolically it's a really bad result. I'm not sure the FA Cup will have been on the radar for West Ham anyway, more interesting in survival, but the way they went out mean there will be a lot more scrutiny on Allardyce. If this was a 1-0, 2-1 loss it would be ignored as a result, but they've lost 5-0 to a team in a lower division so questions will be asked.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:53 pm

FreekShow wrote:Being out of the cup wouldn't bother me one bit if I was a West Ham fan.

The only part I'll miss, as is always, is being in the draw. Id happily be in the draw even to not get another game. Just like being drawn out of the hat to say "and West Ham...play no one"

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Yeah i agree Chris, the draw is the only reason i love the fa cup!!!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:56 pm

I can promise you, the mature and reasonable fans I know expected to lose and were watching for the young lads. And no reasoned fan will be surprised to see the way they split when things went wrong, they were taking a battering and they're not gotta sit in and scrap out to maintain a 2-0 or a 3-0. Men against boys and it proved so.

You think this was bad, we play City away midweek and wont play a full team for that either

by **Crimey** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:57 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I can promise you, the mature and reasonable fans I know expected to lose and were watching for the young lads. And no reasoned fan will be surprised to see the way they split when things went wrong, they were taking a battering and they're not gotta sit in and scrap out to maintain a 2-0 or a 3-0. Men against boys and it proved so.

You think this was bad, we play City away midweek and wont play a full team for that either

I agree, but knives will come out from a good portion of fans and the press, the result couldn't have come at a worse time.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Brighton,..................................

Plays

PALACE

nick expoldes.. Wink

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:58 pm

The problem was the young lads didn't look interested and the older guys played poorly. Can't remember Maiga or Downig having a touch

by **Crimey** Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:59 pm

Jamie Paterson's Wikipedia wrote:
On 2 July 2013, Paterson signed for Nottingham Forest on a three-year deal. The fee was undisclosed, however it was believed it was a six-figure fee with add-ons taking the total amount beyond £1million.[12] He scored his first goal for the club in a pre-season friendly against Belgian side Royal Antwerp on 20 July. His first competitive goals came when he scored a hat-trick against West Ham United in the FA Cup third round on January 5 2014.[13] He is a ponse

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:00 pm

Anyone but Palace for me, like i said yesterday i can't take more expected humiliation.

League one or league two side at home.

Or a big side away e.g. Arsenal or United.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:01 pm

Maiga was poor, Downing looked unfit (no surprise considering). The young lads got picked apart by better players who are not only fitter and stronger but more confident too. You knew this game was low priority by the way he managed the subs. Diarra and Downing were gonna get that amount of game time no matter the score, it was a run out for them. And he never fixed the obvious problem of 3 men in defence. It was a mere exercise.

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:01 pm

Lee Dixon nailed on the head there. Youngsters looking for leadership from senior players, they didn't show anything.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:01 pm

Nick you are climbing back up the league. Its going good again.

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:01 pm

Crimey wrote:
Jamie Paterson's Wikipedia wrote:
On 2 July 2013, Paterson signed for Nottingham Forest on a three-year deal. The fee was undisclosed, however it was believed it was a six-figure fee with add-ons taking the total amount beyond £1million.[12] He scored his first goal for the club in a pre-season friendly against Belgian side Royal Antwerp on 20 July. His first competitive goals came when he scored a hat-trick against West Ham United in the FA Cup third round on January 5 2014.[13] He is a ponse

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:03 pm

Crimey wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I can promise you, the mature and reasonable fans I know expected to lose and were watching for the young lads. And no reasoned fan will be surprised to see the way they split when things went wrong, they were taking a battering and they're not gotta sit in and scrap out to maintain a 2-0 or a 3-0. Men against boys and it proved so.

You think this was bad, we play City away midweek and wont play a full team for that either

I agree, but knives will come out from a good portion of fans and the press, the result couldn't have come at a worse time.

No knives that werent out already will come out on the back of today. Would be odd to sack him now if they were happy to stick with him after WBA and Fulham.

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:06 pm

Come on. Roll on the palace Brighton.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:06 pm

Oh well, the good part of this is that now I just want teams down at the bottom to have awkward away trips

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:07 pm

Brighton get port vale or Plymouth ..decent for them but away

by GSC Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:09 pm

Ipswich or Preston at home. Goody

by mystiroakey Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:09 pm

Palace get Wigan!!!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:11 pm

Wonder what the ticket prices will be for Bournemouth v Liverpool (should it happen)

by NickisBHAFC Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:12 pm

Buzzing about that tie!!!

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