Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread II

[George Carlin]

First topic message reminder :

A. Edinburgh
 

 
1. Pre-season
 
Fri 30 Aug 2013, 19:45
Edinburgh Rugby 15 - 5 Newcastle Falcons
 
Fri 23 Aug 2013, 19:30
Northampton Saints 24 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby
 
2. 2013/2014 Season - Played
 
Sat 7 Sep, 19:15
Munster Rugby 34 - 23 Edinburgh Rugby
 
Fri 13 Sep, 19:45
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 13 Newport Gwent Dragons
 
Sat 21 Sep, 18:30
Ospreys 44 - 10 Edinburgh Rugby
 
Fri 27 Sep, 19:45
Edinburgh Rugby 9 - 22 Scarlets

Sun 6 Oct, 14:05
Cardiff Blues 29 - 12 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 25 Oct, 19:45
Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 13 Benetton Treviso

Fri 1 Nov 19:45
Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 23 Zebre

Fri 22 Nov 19:05
Ulster Rugby 41 - 17 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 29 Nov 19:45
Edinburgh Rugby 43 - 10 Connacht

Fri 20 Dec 19:35
Edinburgh Rugby 11 - 6 Leinster

Thu 26 Dec 15:05
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 20 Glasgow Warriors

Wed 1 Jan 18:05
Glasgow Warriors P - P Edinburgh Rugby

3. 2013/2014 Season - Next 3 Games
 
Sun 9 Feb 13:05
Newport Gwent Dragons  v  Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 15 Feb 17:00
Connacht Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 22 Feb 14:30
Scarlets v Edinburgh Rugby

B. Glasgow
 

 
1. Pre-season
 
Sat 31 Aug 2013, 15:00
Exeter Chiefs 26 - 29 Glasgow Warriors
 
2. 2013/2014 Season
 
Fri 6 Sep, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 22 - 15 Cardiff Blues
 
Fri 13 Sep, 19:05
Ulster Rugby 12 - 13 Glasgow Warriors
 
Fri 20 Sep, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 12 - 6 Leinster Rugby
 
Fri 27 Sep, 19:30
Zebre 17 - 24 Glasgow Warriors
 
Sat 5 Oct, 18:30
Scarlets 12 - 17 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 25 Oct, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 6 - 13 Munster Rugby

Sat 2 Nov, 17:00
Connacht Rugby 12 - 19 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 22 Nov, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 8 - 23 Newport Gwent Dragons

Fri 29 Nov, 19:05
Ospreys 16 - 28 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 20 Dec, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors P - P Benetton Treviso

Thu 26 Dec 15:05
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 20 Glasgow Warriors

Wed 1 Jan 18:05
Glasgow Warriors P - P Edinburgh Rugby

3. 2013/2014 Season - Next 3 Games
 
Sun 9 Feb 14:00
Glasgow Warriors v Connacht Rugby

Sat 15 Feb 18:30
Cardiff Blues v Glasgow Warriors

Sun 23 Feb 14:30
Newport Gwent Dragons   v   Glasgow Warriors
 
Any and all patter about these teams is welcome.
 
Any jingoism, sledging or graceless kicking of anyone whilst they are up or down will see posts deleted.
 
Be gracious and be constructive.

[MacKnocked-on]

looking at the current relative imports id say edinburgh have way too many and way too low quality. (glasgow next post tommorrow as this one went way over time limit !)

pls feel free to comment / add ratings !

EDINBURGH

Scots qualified by ancestry

1. Sam Beard (age 23, center, Kiwi)  ?
2. Allan Dell  (age 21, prop, South African. 6ft 112 kg. Played for SA U16/18/20.  JRWC winner 2012)  ?
3. Simon Berghan (age 23, prop, Kiwi. 6ft 3" 126 kg)  ?
4. Neil Mclennan  (age 25, center, Kiwi. 5ft 9" 89kg)  ?
5. Ollie Atkins (age 24, lock, Aussie. 5ft 9" 89kg)  ?
6. Grayson Hart (age 25, SH, Kiwi)  7/10
7. Andries Struass (age 29, Saffer, Center) ?
8. Alex Toolis - (age 21, lock, Aussie, Scotland EDP player)  ?
9. Ben Toolis - (age 21, lock, 6ft 7" Aussie, Scotland EDP player)  ?
10. James Hilterbrand - (age 25, prop, Aussie, 6ft 0", 114kg)  ?


Scots qualified after residency

1 Wiccus Blaaw - (age 27, Saffer, Prop) not featured much ? 5/10
2. Carl Bezuidenhout - (age 28, Saffer, Fly Half) 6/10
3. Mike Coman - (age 26, back rower,Kiwi , former NZ under 19)  ?
4. Alex Lutui - (age 35, hooker, 6ft 0", Tongan)   ?
5 Piers Francis - (age 24, Fly half, 90kg,  6ft 0" Aussie)  4/10
6. Cornell Du Preez (age 24, Back Row, 107kg,  6ft 2" Saffer)  10/10
7. Isak van der Westhuizen - (age 28, Lock, 115kg,  6ft 5" Saffer)  6/10
8. Perry Parker - (age 26, Lock, 115kg,  6ft 8", English)  5/10 been loaned ?
9. Willem Nel - (age 28, Prop, 120kg,  5ft 10" Saffer) 7/10

Not scots qualified (waste of sru cash)

1. Ben Atiga (age 31, center, Kiwi 1 cap, 5ft 11", 100kg) 4/10
2. Joaquin Dominguez (age 27, center, Puma International, 6ft 3", 103kg)  ?
3. Dimitri Basailia - (age 28, no. 8, Georgian, 6ft 3", 110kg) 6/10
4. Tomas Leonardi - (age 26, back row, Puma International, 6ft 1", 106kg)  ?


looks like this has been a bit of a numbers game with v few successes.   

way way too many imports  

Strauss has already been capped for SA.

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

I think when you actually see the list of players at Edinburgh who are NSQ (and will never become SQ), it's actually pretty short, and I suspect after the summer will be even shorter still.

I do think we're starting to get into the territory of needing a 3rd pro side, and that the SRU should commence planning towards that now. I've been pretty conservative on this issue, dealing with the debt and getting Glasgow and Edinburgh better has rightly been the priority, and in the short term should continue to be so. But we're now getting to the point where a 3rd pro side could become fairly competitive in the short term, and there are a group of young players coming through whose game time is going to be fairly limited.

Good sides have two decent and functioning XVs. Glasgow have that (albeit a seriously nasty run of injuries has tested that) and Edinburgh are getting pretty close. We should kick-off the project of building a third side soon. It'll take some planning and expenditure to do properly, and we shouldn't rush into it. But I think if we look at a 3-4 year lead time, at that stage we'll certainly have the players in Scotland to justify it. It'll come down to making the numbers work, but if we don't ask the questions, then we won't have the answers.

On the other hand, if Scotland becomes independent, there'll be so much money sloshing around in Scotland that we could probably fund a 3rd region with a tiny fraction of the budget surplus.

How unusual for you, fES?!

I'm still not sure that I see the point in a third side until the grassroots and, in particular, the youth game are sorted out - that should be the priority to ensure a conveyor belt of quality players that can make the step up to the professional game, else we'll simply be shipping in more journeymen to fill the pro ranks

Good to see that you've been doing your #indyref economics homework - Scotland, the 4th richest nation in the world   

Did Alex Salmond say that? Surely there can be no doubt at all that it's true, then.

Are we still 4th richest if we factor in (a) needing to print our own currency with Sean Connery's face on it because we're not allowed the pound, (b) the share of the UK's debt that we're inheriting, (c) the hugely over-optimistic oil and gas projections for the next 50 years using methodologies that have been discredited by experts as unsafe and (d) the fact that FES may move some more of his personal fortune to his Geneva seasonal skihouse if the country becomes independent?

Who knows, GC, but good to know that the answer to (b) is zero in any currency you choose - no share of assets, no share of liabilities - wonderful stuff!!

[funnyExiledScot]

GC - even asking questions like that is just negative rhetoric. In fact you're being preposterous. It's people like you we have to blame for the poll tax, the bedroom tax and the illegal war in Iraq. You clearly aren't an "ordinary Scotsman" asking questions like that, you bully.

p.s. that was me systematically dismantling your argument.

[Nematode]

Ulster Vs Scarlets game has already been re-arranged - why haven't the glasgow vs edinburgh/treviso game & edinburgh vs dragons games been rescheduled already??

[RDW]

Ulster Vs Scarlets game has already been re-arranged - why haven't the glasgow vs edinburgh/treviso game & edinburgh vs dragons games been rescheduled already??

Aliens.

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

What? Have Edinbokke signed them as well? Last squad number I heard was 63!!

[21st Century Schizoid Man]

Should that not be Luvviebokke

[George Carlin]

Morrison in the Hootsmon deeply unimpressed with Glasgow's signing of "Western":

Iain Morrison: Carlin Isles on the wrong track

Henry “The Fonz” Winkler starred in so many episodes of Happy Days that the writers inevitably struggled for storylines, so someone suggested sticking Fonzy on some waterskis, where he would encounter. . . a shark!

It must have sounded great in the production meeting but that disastrous episode spawned the phrase “jump the shark”, which is used when something or someone has just pushed the boundaries of credulity too far. Glasgow Warriors have jumped the shark by signing Carlin Isles.

My first impression on hearing the news was that Glasgow must have persuaded the landlords to lay an artificial pitch at Scotstoun because otherwise the “fastest man in rugby” won’t see the ball from October to April – unless he is squinting into the floodlights, waiting for it to drop from the heavens.

My second thought was that the whole thing was a publicity stunt, a ruse to deflect attention from the woes of Scotland’s national team. If that’s true the timing could hardly be worse with widespread grassroots resentment at the legion of foreign imports.

How much are Glasgow paying him? Almost certainly more than he’s worth. Isles wants to play for the USA Eagles in next year’s World Cup and Glasgow are supposed to help him achieve that goal. He needs Glasgow far more than Glasgow need him – a player with almost no experience of 15-a-side rugby, perhaps just a couple of matches.

I presumed that was a joke, or at least an exaggeration but no, at least according to Andy Katoa, the USA Sevens manager and Aspen coach who mentors Isles and housed him while the youngster first dipped his toe into rugby. Speaking from the USA last week Katoa admitted that he has reservations about the Glasgow move but he didn’t want to say anything publicly that might undermine the man he looked after when he was first starting out.

According to Katoa his protege’s total 15-a-side experience is “a couple of games for Aspen in the summer, plus maybe five minutes for the San Diego Aztecs”. He probably knows the player better than anyone but no one from Glasgow has picked his brains. Isles’ history is in track and field. He texted the performance director of USA Rugby Nigel Melville – “I want to play rugby and I am very fast” – and he has wasn’t joking. He has since turned out for the Eagles in the IRB (sevens) circus where he has proved mighty useful with a blistering, Bugatti-like turn of pace.

What he lacks is a muscular Bugatti frame. Isles is listed as anything between 71-75 kgs or 11Ω-11¬ stones and he is 5ft 8in inches tall. He was described by one coach in North America as “a defensive disaster”. For reasons of comparison Edinburgh’s Tom Brown is about as slight a figure as you will bump into on a professional 15-a-side rugby field, he is 14 stones and 5ft 11in inches tall. Isles isn’t small, he is tiny, the kind of rugby player you might find in a Kinder Surprise. He’s the rugby equivalent of Ming porcelain. If you look at him nastily he may well crack, touch him and something might fall off.

The news of Glasgow’s interest caused widespread disbelief in the US where Isles is seen as a speed freak and nothing else. Speed is just one of the many skills needed by a modern 15-a-side winger and far from the most important. Isles was supposed to be trying out for the Detroit Lions in the NFL but, frankly, they boast cheerleaders with more muscle.

Even if Glasgow get their plastic pitch you could make a better case for the club recruiting any number of young Scots – Craig Gossman of Hawks, Accies’ Sam Pecqueur, Edinburgh’s Jamie Farndale or Stephen Fleming from the Scotland Sevens squad who is lightning quick over the all-important first 20 metres.

How is the miniature American supposed to cope on a wet, wind-swept night at Scotstoun when every visiting stand-off will test his ability to catch a slippery, swirling ball with several hundredweight of Welsh (or Italian or Irish) beef steaming towards him? George North or Tim Visser could run right over Isles without even noticing.

The reality is that they won’t. The American certainly won’t be seen playing for Glasgow in today’s game against Newport Gwent Dragons in Wales, nor, in fact, in any match that matters. At best he’ll break cover at the Melrose Sevens, where Glasgow have bagged an invitation. That would boost the attendance at the Greenyards but it’s hardly a compelling reason for Scottish rugby to sign yet another import.

Glasgow have offered a rare glimmer of light in the gloom that envelopes the Scottish game.

Now they have jumped the shark, although no one mistakes these for Happy Days.

[21st Century Schizoid Man]

Wow - Morrison not pulling his punches here. Agree with him that it is a publicity stunt but does send out the wrong message.

[IanBru]

Jesus, Morrison could write an article complaining about the runny consistency of his morning porridge.

Am I the only one who's excited about Isles? He's not the first wing to be a revolving door in defence, but with them it was after years of training and playing 15s. Isles can at least be taught, and we should give him a chance before we tag him with the 'can't tackle, won't tackle' moniker.

More than anything else, I'm just looking forward to him, Niko, Naka, Eddie and Fat Tony carving up in April-May. Tasty.

[George Carlin]

Perhaps also worth pointing out that Shane Williams is 5'7" and 80kg but in the mind of most Wales fans scoring 58 international tries has rather offset these disadvantages.

He's also exactly the same size as Matthew Morgan from the Spreys who still had the cheek to find it in him to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Z27soqWRM to Morrison's beloved Edinburgh. I mean, how jolly dare he at his size.

[funnyExiledScot]

I'm with you Ian, I think it's a very exciting signing and would have loved to have him at Edinburgh. Players with that sort of pace don't come around very often, and it adds a completely new dimension to your attack. Put him in space, and you won't need to worry about support runners. I've seen the clip of him at the 7s and not since the Cullen vs Serevi days of 7s have I seen pace and finishing.

I'd certainly pay money to see him play. Byron McGuigan not so much.

[VinceWLB]

For those who missed it here is an extended highlights video of saturday's game:

[George Carlin]

Absolutely awful result against the Dragons for Glasgow. That kind of thing is a season killer and is the difference between the good teams in this league and the very good ones. It's certainly the difference between getting a home playoff final and having to truck to somewhere like the RDS or Thomond.

FES' Least Favourite Foetus Finn Russell will be realising how hard the real games are. He had a chance to win it on 74 minutes. He missed. Glasgow lose. That's what will be pointed out to him, rather than the fact he apparently played well otherwise. The bottom line is has to be that the Glasgow team named had more than enough talent to win - they just didn't close it out.

Am worried that this Glasgow side lacks ruthlessness.

[tigertattie]

Its that kinda game that makes players grow. FES doesnt dislike Russell. He just wants Russell to play more pro rugby before being shipped into the national set up

and why the feck am I defending FES???????????

[MacKnocked-on]

I see that both Ben Cairns and Steven Lawrie have announced their retirements from playing this afternoon. A real shame for both as they are still young. Here's wishing them both the very best with their future plans.

[funnyExiledScot]

Sorry to hear about Cairns and Lawrie but I'm not hugely surprised. We've really missed Ben Cairns at Edinburgh, he had serious potential.

Spot on tigertattie - I have high hopes and plenty time for young scraps like Finn Russell. I also have no issues with him missing opportunities like he did at the weekend. Better now, playing for the soap dodgers, than in a Scotland jersey. I'm just pleased he's getting time at 10 in professional rugby. That way we can judge him properly against Weir and Jackson.

[MacKnocked-on]

Sorry to hear about Cairns and Lawrie but I'm not hugely surprised. We've really missed Ben Cairns at Edinburgh, he had serious potential.

Spot on tigertattie - I have high hopes and plenty time for young scraps like Finn Russell. I also have no issues with him missing opportunities like he did at the weekend. Better now, playing for the soap dodgers, than in a Scotland jersey. I'm just pleased he's getting time at 10 in professional rugby. That way we can judge him properly against Weir and Jackson.

From what I've read, Russell's attempt at goal was pretty much on the edge of his range and Bennett would have taken it instead if he was still on the field at that point.

[George Carlin]

Gutted about Cairns. A genuine footballing centre and always quite badly underrated.

[21st Century Schizoid Man]

Shame for Ben Cairns as he always looked a better centre that De Luca and I thought he could have bee a shoe in for Scotland. Is Lawrie the hooker who played in South Africa ? He looked ok too if its the guy I'm thinking of.

[RDW]

Cairnsy was one of the most natural attacking centres we've had in the pro era, and I'm sure he would have had more caps by now if he hadn't had so many I injuries. He's still young too so a big shame.

Lawrie had always been a steady pro but was really pushing for the Scotland squad last season. He thoroughly deserved his recent caps, and his performance in last years A game win over England was phenomenal.

Best of luck to them both!

[VinceWLB]

Watched a bit of the Ospreys-Munster game, have to say i know understand why Perry Parker was loaned, the 2 balls he touched resulted in a knock on which totally broke O's momentum and the 2nd time got isolated and turned over.
On the back of that performance, im not sure he will play against his teammates.

[Couttsy87]

I was down in Newport for the Dragon's game, and while it would have been lovely if Russell's penalty had gone over, it was a tricky kick so I wouldn't hold it against him. The rest of his attempts were good; a couple of Dragon's fans standing next to us actually commented that he was doing very well as it was a tough place to kick.

The best compliment I can pay Finn is that I was quite relaxed watching him line up a kick, as opposed to having to peer through my crossed fingers when Jackson steps up!

[RDW]

I see that the Dragons V Edinburgh game has been rearranged to Thursday 4th April.

Why choose to have a game on a Thursday??

And once again, still no news on the 1872....

[funnyExiledScot]

I see that the Dragons V Edinburgh game has been rearranged to Thursday 4th April.

Why choose to have a game on a Thursday??

And once again, still no news on the 1872....

Won't that be next season?

[RDW]

Woops, meant April!

And yes I have just abused my admin powers to change my post to April!  

[funnyExiledScot]

I think the 4th April is a Friday this year....

[RDW]

Having a mare today - it is the 3rd April!

And I can't be bothered editing all the other posts that say 4th.

I'm going for a nap.

[funnyExiledScot]

Don't worry, this is the sort of value added attention to detail I overcharge clients for on a daily basis.....

Agree that Thursday is going to be pain, but I wasn't planning on making the trip to Gwent, Newport or whereever the Dragons play in any case.

Hopefully it'll be on BBC Alba.

[RDW]

It's on S4C.

And that I am sure of.

[Nematode]

If it's s4c that should be online   

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

In light of the MFL's transformation into Edinbokke, scottishrugbyblog have come up with:

The Scottish Rugby Blog Scottishness Test

by Cameron Black

If you spend any time on the internet whether here, on Twitter or over on other rugby sites you’ll know there is a certain amount of outcry every time a player is imported with a view to being selected for Scotland based on residency or the nationality of a parent or grandparent.

But IRB rules allow selection on that basis and it’s hard to question a player’s motivation without knowing more about that person and their background.

Sean Maitland qualifies through his grandparents but was brought up on a diet of Scotch Pies and was forced to get up in the wee small hours to watch Scotland play. David Denton’s father apparently gave him no illusions as to which country he would represent when he grew up.

On the other hand, Brendan Laney and Dan Parks*.

With that in mind the team at Scottish Rugby Blog Towers have come up with the definitive test all players should pass before being allowed to pull on a Scottish jersey.

The Scottish Rugby Blog Scottishness Test™

Thinking about coming to Scotland to play rugby? In order to ensure that your time here playing rugby is greeted warmly by the fans who like our players to be a bit, well, Scottish, please answer the following questions. No Wikipedia allowed.

SECTION 1: History & Culture

1. Who led the Scots to victory at Bannockburn?

a) Sean Connery
b) Mel Gibson
c) William Wallace
d) Robert The Bruce

2.  What nationality is Andy Murray?

a) English
b) British when he’s winning and Scottish when he loses
c) British
d) Scottish

3. What’s in a “Scotch Pie”?

a) Whiskey and vermouth
b) Whisky and coke
c) Mutton and spices
d) Who cares it’s f****** delicious

4. What was the greatest film ever made?

a) Gone With The Wind
b) Citizen Kane
c) Braveheart
d) Gregory’s Girl.

5. Who is the greatest band of all time?

a) The Beatles
b) The Rolling Stones
c) The Proclaimers
d) Runrig

6. Deep fried?

a) Tempura vegetables
b) Camembert
c) Mars Bar
d) Pizza

7. What’s Irn Bru made of?

a) The devil’s toenails
b) Out of date orangeade
c) Ammonium Ferric Citrate
d) Gurdurs.

8. What kind of hat does the Duke of Wellington wear?

a) Black cocked hat
b) Bicorne
c) Bunnet
d) Traffic cone

9. What is a “Glasgae Kiss”?

a) A kiss on both cheeks
b) A Robert Burns poem
c) A Rabbie Burns poem
d) A headbutt

10. What’s the best type of sausage?

a) Lincolnshire
b) Biltong
c) Cumberland
d) Lorne

Bonus Points Available: Sing the theme song from either Dotaman, Supergran or Take The Highroad.

SECTION 2: Rugby

1. Complete this sentence. “I want to play for Scotland because…”

a) There’s too much competition in the country of my birth and this is my best chance of international rugby
b) I look good in tartan
c) My grandmother is Scottish/Bill Mclaren is my hero
d) FREEEEDOM!

2. Who is Jim Telfer?

a) Jim who?
b) The man who built the Caledonian Canal
c) Scotland and British & Irish Lions most successful coach of all time
d) God

3. Who’s your second favourite rugby team?

a) Scotland
b) The British & Irish Lions
c) South Sydney Rabbitohs
d) Whoever’s playing England.

4. Who is Scotland’s greatest ever captain?

a) Haddock
b) Archie Gemmill
c) Gavin Hastings
d) David Sole

5. You have a 4 on 1 overlap. Do you…

a) Commit the first defender and pass to the man immediately outside
b) Get tackled
c) Kick for touch
d) Drop the ball

6. What does the phrase “he’s as slippery as a baggie up a Border burn” mean?

a) Something to do with West Bromwich Albion
b) A split condom
c) He’s like a whirling tsetse fly!
d) That player is quick, skillful and difficult to catch

7. Who is Brian Moore?

a) Former Australian rugby league player
b) Former hooker for England turned TV pundit
c) That annoyingly correct bloke who keeps interrupting Andrew Cotter
d) Biased English *******

8. Complete the following sentence… “Swing Low…”

a) Sweet Chariot
b) Oh Flower Of Scotland
c) SCOTLAND! SCOOOOTTTLAAANND!
d) You can stick yer f****** chariots up yer a***

10. How many layers should you wear to Murrayfield in February?

a) Dress for arctic conditions
b) Longjohns are essential
c) Scotland jersey over a hoody, jeans and walking boots
d) Short sleeved Scotland shirt, tartan tammy with ginger wig, kilt and flip flops. Polyester Scotland flag in case it rains.

Bonus Question: Are you Dan Parks?

a) No
b) I don’t think so
c) Yes
d) Are you taking the p***?

Answers:

Mostly “A” – Are you even sure you know where Scotland is?

Mostly “B” – Maybe you should stay in Auckland watching repeats of Albi The Racist Dragon and working on your guitar-based digi-bongo acapella-rap-funk-comedy folk album.

Mostly “C” – You are Dan Parks.

Mostly “D” – Cut you open and you’d bleed tartan. You’re hired!

* Sorry Dan, we don’t mean it really. You served Scotland well, even if you appeared to be operating on a different intellectual and astral plane from those around you. Your international career was brought to an end in the worst way possible. We blame Andy Robinson.

Slightly disappointed that 'stairheid rammie' did not make it into the test in any shape or form

[tigertattie]

That test is not 100% accurate - Question 6 has two correct answers!

[Nematode]

[quote="AsLongAsBut100ofUs"]In light of the MFL's transformation into Edinbokke, scottishrugbyblog have come up with:

The Scottish Rugby Blog Scottishness Test

Who is Scotland’s greatest ever captain?

a) Haddock
b) Archie Gemmill
c) Gavin Hastings
d) David Sole

WHERE IS ROSS FORD   

[tigertattie]

When I read "haddock" I was thinking to myself o O (has Frank Hadden been a scottish Captain.......)

[funnyExiledScot]

5. You have a 4 on 1 overlap. Do you…

a) Commit the first defender and pass to the man immediately outside
b) Find the nearest opposition player and run into him
c) Kick for touch on the full
d) Drop the ball

(a) - you are Matt Scott
(b) - you are Sean Lamont
(c) - you are Duncan Weir
(d) - you are Nick De Luca, or any other back to play for Scotland since 2000.

[George Carlin]

5. You have a 4 on 1 overlap. Do you…

a) Commit the first defender and pass to the man immediately outside
b) Find the nearest opposition player and run into him
c) Kick for touch on the full
d) Drop the ball
e) ..sorry, wait, what's a 4 or 1 overlap?
f) ...realise that this isn't 1990?

(a) - you are Matt Scott
(b) - you are Sean Lamont
(c) - you are Duncan Weir
(d) - you are Nick De Luca, or any other back to play for Scotland since 2000.[/color]

(e) - you are Gregor Townsend
(f) you are Ian McGeechan.

[funnyExiledScot]

Re: (e), you've got to remember that attacking back play isn't about scoring tries. A lot of coaches forget that, but thankfully not our Toonie.

[RDW]

If anyone cares, Edinburgh have a game tomorrow!

https://www.606v2.com/t52235-edinburgh-v-ospreys#2550553

[funnyExiledScot]

Hopefully we all care. All Scotland fans have an interest in this game, not just the die hard Edinburgh fans like RDW, myself and 21st Century Schizoid.

[RDW]

All Scotland fans should hope that Edinburgh do well, which was why it was disappointing to see some of our western brethren celebrating when Connacht beat us.   

I want Glasgow to win every game other than against Edinburgh!

[funnyExiledScot]

We're just much better people in the East....

[RDW]

True. Very true.

[jimbopip]

RDW, I was not celebrating when Dan Parks humiliated the MFL. It's just that watching your lot this season reminds me of Les Dawson,
"Mixed emotions...that's when your mother in law drives off a cliff in your brand new car."  

[BigGee]

Carlin Isles signs for Glasgow, the rumours have come to fruition.

An unknown quality at 15's for sure but with that pace will surely have potential. He looks like he needs 10 kg of muscle putting on him first though, I expect the conditioners to be busy with him over the summer.

We might see him off the bench though towards the end of the season when the pitches firm up. Now he is what you would call an impact sub!

[RDW]

Just seen this

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/ross-ford-poised-to-extend-edinburgh-deal-1-3318826

Really think this is a bad move for all parties if he does stay. Normally you wouldn't say no to such an experienced Lions capped hooker, but we really have plenty other options on the books and he needs to move to reignite his career.

[BigGee]

Just seen this

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/ross-ford-poised-to-extend-edinburgh-deal-1-3318826

Really think this is a bad move for all parties if he does stay.  Normally you wouldn't say no to such an experienced Lions capped hooker, but we really have plenty other options on the books and he needs to move to reignite his career.

I agree, I think both parties missing am opportunity here. Solomon's must think he is the man to rehabilitate him!

[GLove39]

So Edinburgh have now have a mighty impressive 100% winning record at Meggetland!     

[BigGee]

To be fair Fordy played pretty well last night. Edinburgh line out and scrum very solid and he did not miss a throw all game, was his usual robust self in the loose as well. He is not a lost cause by any stretch of the imagination and maybe he can pick it up at home with the right coaches. I would still have liked to see him move on though, though that seems not likely to happen now.

[VinceWLB]

It's not the 1st time this season Ford has a perfect evening with his throwing, problem is he is a bit hit or miss, who know how well he will be throwing the next outing.

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