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Post by George Carlin Mon 27 Jan 2014, 6:34 am

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Aviva Stadium, Dublin
Sunday, 2 Feb 2014
Kick-off: 15:00

Referee: Craig Joubert (SARU)
Assistant referee: Jaco Peyper (SARU)
Assistant referee: Mike Fraser (NZR)
TMO: Carlo Damasco (FIR)

A. Squads

1. Ireland

Backs:
Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster), Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster), Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster), Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster), Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster), Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster), Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/Leinster), Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht), Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster), Felix Jones (Shannon/Munster), David Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster), Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster), Ian Keatley (Young Munster/Munster), Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster), Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) *, Luke Marshall (Ballynahinch/Ulster), Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster), Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster), Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster), Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster), Jonathan Sexton (Racing Metro 92), Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster)

Forwards:
Rodney Ah You (Buccaneers/Connacht) *, Stephen Archer (Cork Constitution/Munster), Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster), Robin Copeland (Cardiff Blues) *, Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster), Robbie Diack (Malone/Ulster) *, Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster), Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster), Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster), Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster), Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) *, David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster), Mike McCarthy (Leinster), Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster), Martin Moore (Lansdowne/Leinster) *, Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster) *, Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster), Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster), Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster), Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster), Rhys Ruddock (St. Mary's College/Leinster), Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster), Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster), Damien Varley (Garryowen/Munster)

* Uncapped player

2. Scotland

Forwards:
John Beattie (Montpellier), Kelly Brown (Saracens), Geoff Cross, David Denton, Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford (all Edinburgh Rugby), Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors), Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby), Ryan Grant, Jonny Gray (both Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Jim Hamilton (Montpellier), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Scott Lawson (Newcastle Falcons), Kieran Low (London Irish), Moray Low, Pat MacArthur (both Glasgow Warriors), Ross Rennie (Edinburgh Rugby) Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan), Tim Swinson and Ryan Wilson (both Glasgow Warriors).

Backs:
Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh Rugby), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Max Evans (Castres), Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby), Stuart Hogg, Ruaridh Jackson, Sean Lamont (all Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby), Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby), Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Taylor (Saracens), Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby) and Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors).

B. Head To Head

127 Played 127
57 Wins 65
65 Losses 57
5 Draws 5
203 Tries 210
104 Conversions 109
111 Penalties 131
17 Drop Goals 38
1,344 Points 1,303

C. Recent Form

24 February 2013
Scotland 12–8 Ireland

10 March 2012
Ireland 32–14  Scotland

27 February 2011
Scotland 18–21  Ireland

D. Teams

1. Ireland

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15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 49
14. Dave Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster) 2
13. Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster) 128
12. Luke Marshall (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 4
11. Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster) 50
10. Jonathan Sexton (Racing Metro 92) 38
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 22
1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 42
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 70
3. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster) 34
4. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 10
5. Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster) (capt) 88
6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 19
7. Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster) 9
8. Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) 60

Replacements:

16. Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 30
17. Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 3
18. Martin Moore (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
19. Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster) 7
20. Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster) 2
21. Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster) 17
22. Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster) 5
23. Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 21

* Denotes uncapped player

2. Scotland

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15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) 15 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors) 8 caps, 1 try, 5 points
13 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) 3 caps, 1 try, 5 points
12 Duncan Taylor (Saracens) 6 caps
11 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) 82 caps, 12 tries, 60 points
10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) 8 caps, 1 try, 2 conversions, 9 points
9 Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby) 24 caps, 3 tries, 23 conversions, 54 penalties, 223 points
1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) 13 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) 71 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
3 Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors) 23 caps
4 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) 3 caps
5 Jim Hamilton (Montpellier) 50 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) 4 caps
7 Kelly Brown (Saracens) CAPTAIN 60 caps, 4 tries, 20 points
8 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby) 17 caps

Replacements:

16 Pat MacArthur (Glasgow Warriors) 3 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) 30 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Geoff Cross (Edinburgh Rugby) 23 caps, 1 try, 5 points
19 Richie Gray (Castres) 33 caps, 1 try, 5 points
20 Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier) 26 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
21 Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors) 64 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
22 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) 16 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
23 Max Evans (Castres) 37 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:23 pm

Healy doing a good impression of a winger there. Very Happy

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:24 pm

Murray just killed the momentum there.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:24 pm

We are playing with three number 8s. I mean really!!!
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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:25 pm

Nice foot work Hoggy!

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:25 pm

Luke Marshall having a very impressive half here as well.

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:26 pm

If we could just get a try. Something to smile about

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Post by Cowshot Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:26 pm

"This game reminds me of an interprovincial match just before the HC.Leinster never used any of their moves just went through the phases so they gave the opposition nothing to analyse for the next week.I think we're doing the same today."

That would be (1)mighty disrespectful of Scotland, and (2) this match IS a competitive game...so it seems unlikely to me.

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:31 pm

Cowshot wrote:"This game reminds me of an interprovincial match just before the HC.Leinster never used any of their moves just went through the phases so they gave the opposition nothing to analyse for the next week.I think we're doing the same today."

That would be (1)mighty disrespectful of Scotland, and (2) this match IS a competitive game...so it seems unlikely to me.

I posted the same thing in the Wales Italy thread, it looked like Wales were not using any of set moves.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:31 pm

Stuff this. I'm switching allegiance to Portugal.

This is just dire
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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:32 pm

Cowshot wrote:"This game reminds me of an interprovincial match just before the HC.Leinster never used any of their moves just went through the phases so they gave the opposition nothing to analyse for the next week.I think we're doing the same today."

That would be (1)mighty disrespectful of Scotland, and (2) this match IS a competitive game...so it seems unlikely to me.

Yeah sorry if it sounds that way but the interpros were competitve matches too.I'd say if we were struggling to get the win you'd see some moves but we haven't needed to.

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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:33 pm

Well Ford is off...every cloud, Scotland.

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Post by Cowshot Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:33 pm

I would understand it more in the Italy Wales game. But given how closely matched these two sides were for the first 39 minutes...I don't think so.

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Post by Cyril Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:34 pm

Has the 2nd half improved?

I gave up after the first half to do some work on the computer.

What's the score?

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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:36 pm

21-6 with just under ten minutes to go.

...and as I typed that, Chilli gets over the whitewash. Nicely set up by Chris Henry.

26-6 with conversion to come.


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Post by LuvSports! Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:36 pm

awful defending.

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Post by yappysnap Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:37 pm

Scotland please tackle that limply against England next week.

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Post by monty junior Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:37 pm

Wooden spoon coming up, absolutely terrible!

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Post by Cyril Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:39 pm

Cari wrote:21-6 with just under ten minutes to go.

...and as I typed that, Chilli gets over the whitewash.  Nicely set up by Chris Henry.

26-6 with conversion to come.
Cheers. Sounds one-sided.

Looks ominous for the Scots in the championship.

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Post by Steffan Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:40 pm

Scotland are crap

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Post by monty junior Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:41 pm

15 years since Scotland have been decent

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:43 pm

Stefan. Maybe, but they will never be as crap as your posts

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:43 pm

Heaslip MOTM? Well that's a bit embarrassing. He should do the decent thing and give it to POM.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:43 pm

I personally think that the scoreline flatters Ireland. They have not been that much better than Scotland.

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:44 pm

tea and cake or death?

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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:44 pm

I don't hold out much hope for Scotland next week...

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Post by Thomond Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:45 pm

Heaslip was pretty good today but POM deserved MOTM.

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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:46 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:Heaslip MOTM? Well that's a bit embarrassing.

Yes, with that hair style...

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:46 pm

Wooden spoon beckons for us

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Post by Cowshot Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:47 pm

Wow! I think he got it!  Shocked 

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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:48 pm

If that try is allowed, that will be one of the slickest I've ever seen.

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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:49 pm

Not allowed, but well done Ireland.

FT 28-6.

Can't wait to see you all next week!

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Post by Cowshot Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:50 pm

No. Ah well.

I fear so on that performance, cake.

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Post by Cari Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:52 pm

That Chilli Con Kearney (Snr) is a good looking fella isn't he?

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Post by international197 Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:52 pm

Not only have Ireland won, they now have a, I think, healthy points difference. This may be important for them at the end of the tournament, IMO.


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Post by Knowsit17 Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:53 pm

Ireland picking up more of a canter as the game has gone on. They've been more clinical and have shown more intent, confidence and structure in the second half, deserving winners. Scotland are customarily slow starters, especially away from home but looked physically competent in the 1st half if nothing else. Some poor defensive lapses, particularly for Kearney's try, in the 2nd half didn't aid their cause.

A lot to think about for Wales' trip to Dublin. If they don't, and recent evidence suggests that they won't, mount more of a challenge at the ruck/maul and find some way to disrupt Ireland's phases it'll be a very similar scenario, only with the losing side wearing red.

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Post by alive555 Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:55 pm

yappysnap wrote:Scotland please tackle that limply against England next week.

highly likely  laughing 

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:57 pm

Thomond wrote:Heaslip was pretty good today but POM deserved MOTM.

I would agree except for the fact that POM missed two poor tackles which may have affected his chances. Other than that he was exceptional though.

Heaslip had a good game, I would say he deserved it.

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Post by Steffan Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:59 pm

cakeordeath wrote:Stefan. Maybe, but they will never be as crap as your posts
Both are crap I agree

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:00 pm

Scotland needed to score more for there advantage.

Ireland rolled them second half. Good performance in the end.

Well played.


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Post by cakeordeath Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:01 pm

Steffan wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:Stefan. Maybe, but they will never be as crap as your posts
Both are crap I agree

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Post by IanBru Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:01 pm

Well done Ireland. To say 'you were the better team' would be the understatement of the century.

I'm off to find my happy place.
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Post by 123456789 Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:04 pm

Can someone start the Calcutta cup thread so we can move on from that pathetic performance?

Duncan Taylor seems to have joined the recent pantheon of average Scottish inside centres and can count himself amongst such legends as Andrew Henderson and Graeme Morrison. Duncan Weir is primarily a kicking fly-half yet is not trusted to kick, Laidlaw seems insistent on twenty metre kicks that alleviate little or none of the pressure. Dunbar looked decent in defence and didn't have much of a chance in attack, Maitland looked promising but it looks like he'll miss the rest of the tournament. Lamont showed again that he no longer has the pace to play on the wing, perhaps he should consider a move to the back row? Hogg looked decent as did Denton, Grant and Swinson. Ford was the same as always, as was Hamilton, Low was average at best and Brown is not an openside.

For next week I'd go for:

15. Hogg
14. Seymour
13. Dunbar
12. Scott
11. Fife
10. Weir
9. Cusiter
8. Denton
7. Fusaro
6. Brown
5. Gray
4. Swinson
3. Low (there is literally no one else if Murray isn't fit)
2. MacArthur
1. Grant

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:05 pm

The Irish backrow finally looks balanced. A couple of bad missed tackles aside (which Demented Mole pointed as a weakness in his game) POM was excellent. Henry was the top tackler in the pack and stopped Scottish ball by hook or by crook (usually crook). Heaslip was average in the first half but really good in the second. Touhy showed his form and outplayed Toner. Best and Healy played well though Ross surely is on borrowed time. Even better, the bench actually has quality on it.

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Post by reallybored Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:05 pm

Better team won, comfortably.

Set-piece let us down, we played smart territory with Weir playing well.

Ford benched and I think Welsh needs to start at TH, most solid scrummager.

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Post by yappysnap Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:13 pm

123456789 wrote:Can someone start the Calcutta cup thread so we can move on from that pathetic performance?

For next week I'd go for:

15. Hogg
14. Seymour
13. Dunbar
12. Scott
11. Fife
10. Weir
9. Cusiter
8. Denton
7. Fusaro
6. Brown
5. Gray
4. Swinson
3. Low (there is literally no one else if Murray isn't fit)
2. MacArthur
1. Grant

Already started...

https://www.606v2.com/t51548-scotland-v-england-murrayfield-sat-8th-feb-1700

Need someone to post up the likely Scots team that I can put in the OP

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Post by profitius Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm

Efficient win for Ireland. I thought the Scots were a handful in the first half and really had Ireland under pressure. They're a big physical side.

Ireland stepped it up in the second half and once they edged in front Scotland lost a bit of confidence.

If that was last season Scotland would have won!
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Post by BigGee Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:41 pm

Hard to take anything positive from that for Scotland. You would just hope that we won't be that bad again. When will we ever manage to hit a 6 nations running!

A few changes needed for next week. Some wingers, a hooker, a second row, a centre and a better balanced 2nd row! KB went off quite early considering he was captain. Was he injured?

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm

Congrats Ireland! You were the much better side today Sad fair final score

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Post by Jhamer25 Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:45 pm

Ffs Scotland, I really want them to do well because I know they can but that' always what happens.
First half I thought they were the much better team and the forwards were outstanding. Joubert as usually can't ref at the breakdown and scrums. Healey put in a good shift but should have been penalised twice for not scrummaging straight. At a lot of coming in t the side around the rucks which Joubert didn't act on.
Second half though you couldn't; fault the Irish they were superb, Scotland as usual choked and completely lost the plot.
How Ford is allowed any where near the 23 is beyond me. Didn't think much of Duncan Taylor but Dunbar played well. Roger Wilson and Kelly Brown didn't meet their expectations ether, the best player at the breakdown for Scotland was Morey Low ffs (fair do's to him though). They lacked a real 7 like Henry who completely justified his inclusion, as did all the Irish back row.

Scotland I love you but come on it's just not good enough. I was hoping for another close cut game after half time but they just took their foot of the accelerator.
Sensing another wooden spoon sorry guys, unless they play for the full 80 next week like they played the first 40 this week.
I'm very wary of this Irish team next week, hope it will be a classic

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 02 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm

Well done Ireland very impressive stuff...!

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