England vs Ireland

by adambarney Sun 09 Feb 2014, 2:06 pm

First topic message reminder :

Could be game of the six nations what do you think?

by HammerofThunor Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:09 pm

Of course you are, you're Irish. All Irish people are nice aren't they? I've only known one and that's enough to extrapolate from isn't it?

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:13 pm

Yes, unless they are from Munster.

by Barney McGrew did it Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:15 pm

I used to like the Munsters

by WELL-PAST-IT Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:15 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Look its fair game to target Hartely with the odd choke hold or fishook as hes a git.
Cole is a nice guy though. Unlike his sister.

Cole's sister is a GUY???

by HammerofThunor Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:19 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Yes, unless they are from Munster.

Unfortunately this one guy I know who I'm based my prejudice of Irish people on was from Limmerick. His dad even played for Munster back in the day. So if there's a difference all I can say is all Munster people are nice, even those that stab other people.

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:23 pm

Ha. I was of course only joking. Im sure he was nice. I used to share a room in school with Eoin Reddan. He is from Limerick and a good lad.

by ME-109 Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:28 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Ha. I was of course only joking. Im sure he was nice. I used to share a room in school with Eoin Reddan. He is from Limerick and a good lad.

Well done Guns...broadening your horizons I see.

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:30 pm

Haha Dod, are we not friends too?. Is it snowing in Munster too.

by ME-109 Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:35 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Haha Dod, are we not friends too?. Is it snowing in Munster too.

Nothing to write home about in terms of snow.

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:39 pm

Blizzard in Mullingar.

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:44 pm

Snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried.

by Scrumpy Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:45 pm

Back on Topic!

Score predictions.

England 35 Ireland 24

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:46 pm

SecretFly wrote:Snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried.

James Joyce?

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:46 pm

Scrumpy wrote:Back on Topic!

Score predictions.

England 35 Ireland 24

Good game sound like! If that's our worst...well, it'll do for now. Still in the hunt, first year of Schmidt and most important of all - not man shamed Wink

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:47 pm

Scrumpy wrote:Back on Topic!

Score predictions.

England 35 Ireland 24

England 15 Ireland 30

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:48 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
SecretFly wrote:Snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried.

James Joyce?

yep.... beautiful woyds and even more beautiful when put alongside the imagination of John Huston

by **rodders** Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:50 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Ah look I dont hold it against him cause Im sure he constantly gets pestered. Was a bit star struck though. Some player.

I remember meeting Drico and being totally star struck ... nice guy though...only big time Charlie I came across was Marcus Bent...go figure....

by Cyril Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:50 pm

GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30

Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

by Scrumpy Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:52 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Scrumpy wrote:Back on Topic!

Score predictions.

England 35 Ireland 24

Good game sound like! If that's our worst...well, it'll do for now. Still in the hunt, first year of Schmidt and most important of all - not man shamed

Forgot to say England were 35 -0 at half time, so a little disappointed we didn't add any points in the 2nd half, but with Wales the following week it was understandable.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:54 pm

Cyril wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30
Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

To be fair Lancaster proved its not that hard to turn these results around

by ME-109 Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:55 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
Scrumpy wrote:Back on Topic!

Score predictions.

England 35 Ireland 24

England 15 Ireland 30

Dont think we will score that much.

England 12 - Ireland 21.

by **rodders** Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:58 pm

Cyril wrote:Can you bottle this genius?

Nope but we can sell you spring water from the river Liffey, bottled in the finest Waterford crystal which has been blessed by the king of the lebrechauns whilst sat on the blarney stone.

Guaranteed to make you a tactical genius and improve your breakdown work and rolling maul within 2 weeks or your money back.

by lostinwales Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:58 pm

ME-109 wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
Scrumpy wrote:Back on Topic!

Score predictions.

England 35 Ireland 24

England 15 Ireland 30

Dont think we will score that much.

England 12 - Ireland 21.

So is that going to be three mauls over the line or 7 Sexton penalties? - or something in the middle.

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 1:58 pm

Cyril wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30
Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

Probably not. He certainly is a tactical genius though. He told his wife before he moved to Ireland for the Leinster gig that he would like to spend some time playing golf while in Ireland. He has yet to play a game aparently. He spends every spare moment analysing videos after games. Every Irish qualified player in Ireland and some overseas are examined and have a brief as to what to work on to improve their game.

Schmidt doesnt miss anyting. Most detailed coach in the 6n.

That said obviously Ireland are still green and beatable but we have improved a lot.

by Scrumpy Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:01 pm

2 wins against poor sides and Ireland are unbeatable! (sort of) Wink

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:04 pm

Scrumpy wrote:2 wins against poor sides and Ireland are unbeatable! (sort of)

Who said they were unbeatable? One of those poor sides recently humiliated England. Cant be that bad.

by No 7&1/2 Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:06 pm

It would be quite a performance for Ireland to win at Twickenham. It would be a brilliantly performance to win by more than one score imo.

by Scrumpy Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:07 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
Scrumpy wrote:2 wins against poor sides and Ireland are unbeatable! (sort of)

Who said they were unbeatable? One of those poor sides recently humiliated England. Cant be that bad.

I agree, England should have scored 50+ vs Scotland 'oh the humiliation!' Sad

by **Notch** Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:08 pm

SecretFly wrote:Snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried.

There's a reference to an achievement by an Irishman that is bigger than anything any player could hope to manage at Twickenham.

by Cyril Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:10 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Cyril wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30
Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

To be fair Lancaster proved its not that hard to turn these results around

Yeah, but Lancaster is a genius.

It's obviously not as fast-working genius as Schmidt though (who apparently wasn't in charge during the Australia game or the last 50 minutes of the NZ one).

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:14 pm

Cyril wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30
Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

Would that score be 'genius', Cyril? Do call it for us early.

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:16 pm

Snow is falling heavy now...ah...this thread is getting very cozy and poetic...good omens here!

by Breadvan Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:20 pm

rodders wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Ah look I dont hold it against him cause Im sure he constantly gets pestered. Was a bit star struck though. Some player.

I remember meeting Drico and being totally star struck ... nice guy though...only big time Charlie I came across was Marcus Bent...go figure....

Opsreys wing Hanno Dirksen was in the pub in sat with his family watching the game. No one batted an eyelid to who he was but I was like a star struck teen. Rolling Eyes

Shook his hand, had a pic and talked about the game. He summised it as 'Sh1t' lol...

by HammerofThunor Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:39 pm

Cyril wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Cyril wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30
Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

To be fair Lancaster proved its not that hard to turn these results around
Yeah, but Lancaster is a genius.

It's obviously not as fast-working genius as Schmidt though (who apparently wasn't in charge during the Australia game or the last 50 minutes of the NZ one).

And Gatland. He took Wales from pool stage drop outs that lost to Fiji to Grand Slammers in a few months. Either that or Gareth Jenkins was a moron and took Wales from potential grandslammers to Wooden Spooner contenders and pool stage drop outs.

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:49 pm

Cyril wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Cyril wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30
Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

To be fair Lancaster proved its not that hard to turn these results around
Yeah, but Lancaster is a genius.

It's obviously not as fast-working genius as Schmidt though (who apparently wasn't in charge during the Australia game or the last 50 minutes of the NZ one).

He was using those 'lesser' games to prepare for Mighty England, wasn't he??!!!! That's what we were all told to say anyway by Her Majesty's Lancaster Fan Club. Came in the post at the beginning of the 6N. Do make up your minds what we're meant to think about all this. We is confused with all the mixed messages. England are the best team on the Planet Earth, it's only natural to save some energy for them.

by Cyril Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:50 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:
Cyril wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Cyril wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:England 15 Ireland 30
Blimey! That Schmidt really has turned things around in Ireland. He's taken a side that lost at home last year to a comfortable win away.

Can you bottle this genius?

To be fair Lancaster proved its not that hard to turn these results around
Yeah, but Lancaster is a genius.

It's obviously not as fast-working genius as Schmidt though (who apparently wasn't in charge during the Australia game or the last 50 minutes of the NZ one).

And Gatland. He took Wales from pool stage drop outs that lost to Fiji to Grand Slammers in a few months. Either that or Gareth Jenkins was a moron and took Wales from potential grandslammers to Wooden Spooner contenders and pool stage drop outs.

Ah, it's all random. Let's just roll some dice.

Just got two 3's. Sorry folks, it's gonna be a stinker.

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 2:53 pm

Breadvan wrote:
rodders wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Ah look I dont hold it against him cause Im sure he constantly gets pestered. Was a bit star struck though. Some player.

I remember meeting Drico and being totally star struck ... nice guy though...only big time Charlie I came across was Marcus Bent...go figure....

Opsreys wing Hanno Dirksen was in the pub in sat with his family watching the game. No one batted an eyelid to who he was but I was like a star struck teen. Shook his hand, had a pic and talked about the game. He summised it as 'Sh1t' lol...

Colin Charvis was in the pub I was in too. I didnt bother saying hello to him but he is a big dude.

by Scrumpy Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:00 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
Breadvan wrote:
rodders wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Ah look I dont hold it against him cause Im sure he constantly gets pestered. Was a bit star struck though. Some player.

I remember meeting Drico and being totally star struck ... nice guy though...only big time Charlie I came across was Marcus Bent...go figure....

Opsreys wing Hanno Dirksen was in the pub in sat with his family watching the game. No one batted an eyelid to who he was but I was like a star struck teen. Shook his hand, had a pic and talked about the game. He summised it as 'Sh1t' lol...

Colin Charvis was in the pub I was in too. I didnt bother saying hello to him but he is a big dude.

Should have told him his car was getting a ticket!

by quinsforever Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:05 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
Barney McGrew did it wrote:You're right, we should learn from the irish and do it on the pitch.

Dan Cole in particular does it every match. Do you really think England are any different than anyone else in that respect? The Irish team is actually one of the lest penalised teams in world rugby in the last 10 years.
you just made that up

No, Billtong recently posted stats on the teams with the best diciplinary records.

penalties are not the same as discipline. i remember biltong's info on yellow and red cards, but thats not the same as penalties

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:09 pm

quinsforever wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
Barney McGrew did it wrote:You're right, we should learn from the irish and do it on the pitch.

Dan Cole in particular does it every match. Do you really think England are any different than anyone else in that respect? The Irish team is actually one of the lest penalised teams in world rugby in the last 10 years.
you just made that up

No, Billtong recently posted stats on the teams with the best diciplinary records.
penalties are not the same as discipline. i remember biltong's info on yellow and red cards, but thats not the same as penalties

Thats true but its a good indication that Ireland dont cheat as much as some might claim.

by quinsforever Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:11 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Ah look I dont hold it against him cause Im sure he constantly gets pestered. Was a bit star struck though. Some player.

One of my favourites. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WsMdyjLUsxQ

this one's my favourite, and absolutely appropriate for recent discussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3cnss1UMO8

by quinsforever Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:16 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
Breadvan wrote:
rodders wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Ah look I dont hold it against him cause Im sure he constantly gets pestered. Was a bit star struck though. Some player.

I remember meeting Drico and being totally star struck ... nice guy though...only big time Charlie I came across was Marcus Bent...go figure....

Opsreys wing Hanno Dirksen was in the pub in sat with his family watching the game. No one batted an eyelid to who he was but I was like a star struck teen. Shook his hand, had a pic and talked about the game. He summised it as 'Sh1t' lol...

Colin Charvis was in the pub I was in too. I didnt bother saying hello to him but he is a big dude.

i went to a dinner for 10 people with dallaglio, lewsey and feddie flintoff! lewsey was as boring as watching paint dry. Dayglo and Freddie came out clubbing with us afterwards. Those boys are animals. very entertaining.

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:20 pm

The next time I catch Dayglo on the daunce floor, I'm gonna take him out with a shoulder charge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! furious

...for the good of the team of course angel

by gregortree Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:20 pm

" Have some of that..!"

by GunsGerms Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:34 pm

quinsforever wrote:i went to a dinner for 10 people with dallaglio, lewsey and feddie flintoff! lewsey was as boring as watching paint dry. Dayglo and Freddie came out clubbing with us afterwards. Those boys are animals. very entertaining.

Yes Lewsey does seem a little dry. I am also a big Dallaglio fan and he is one of my favorite pundits. Id say he is good craic. Flintoff just seems pretty thick.

Sounds like a great dinner to go to though.

by **rodders** Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:37 pm

quinsforever wrote:
i went to a dinner for 10 people with dallaglio, lewsey and feddie flintoff!

Man you guys must of been hungry if yous ate for 10 people.

by SecretFly Tue 11 Feb 2014, 3:41 pm

Yes...and that's only four people uncovered.

Tell us who the other people were. NOW!!

by gregortree Tue 11 Feb 2014, 4:03 pm

Josh Lewsey.... big fella !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiO8DZ2Urms

by Scrumpy Tue 11 Feb 2014, 4:21 pm

I had a meal with Big Phil once.

by Cyril Tue 11 Feb 2014, 4:23 pm

Scrumpy wrote:I had a meal with Big Phil once.

I assume it wasn't a retirement dinner then.

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