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Manager - Gloucester Bear
Club Captain - Byron Kelleher
Vice Captain - Kelly Brown
Squad Numbers - 28
Budget - 21 million

Hookers
John Smit
Benoit August

Props
Fabien Barcella
Neemia Tialata
Mike Ross(Loan)

Locks
Danie Rossouw
Louis Deacon
Anthony Boric

Flankers
Dan Lydiate
Joe Van Niekerk
Ben McCalman
Sam Warburton
Ashley Johnson

Scrum Half
Byron Kelleher
Chris Cusiter

Fly Half
Toby Flood
Stephen Donald

Centres
Jonathan Davies
Seilala Mapasua
David Marty
Anthony Fainga'a

Wingers
Leigh Halfpenny
Alesana Tuilagi
Rod Davies
Vincent Clerc

Full Backs
Keith Earls

Starting 15
1.Fabien Barcella
2.John Smit
3.Neemia Tialata
4.Anthony Boric
5.Danie Rossouw
6.Joe Van Niekerk
7.Sam Warburton
8.Ben McCalman
9.Byron Kelleher
10.Toby Flood
11.Vincent Clerc
12.Seilala Mapasua
13.David Marty
14.Leigh Halfpenny
15.Keith Earls

I was keen on Parrise. But I've accepted that you won;t let him go, so we've got the above deal in place as a result. I've stated that Croft won;t go your way unless Parrise was involved.

Are you accpeting this deal above or going to cancel it and mess me around once more?

Elsom & Hape
4
Thomson & King

OR

Maitland & Todd
4
Pietersen & Collins

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1st offer, big loss on elsom to marginally improve a back up, no thanks

2nd offer, need an out and out 7, thats why i went for todd, collins a 6 these days

not that fussed on pietersen mate. he is a great player, but breaks up my nz back three and if i wanted to do that, i have habana as back up now.

parisse is the only player you have that i want, but you know that by now!

not really, i want to improve my team and the only player you have that does that is parrisse.

Mate.. you're offers are fine in principle but as Bathite says the aim is to improve my side. No offence intended but in every position my players are better than yours - the only exception being Parisse. Alberts = Thomson, Chisholm = Russouw (for arguments sake)

Therefore he'd have to be included in a deal, or you'd have to look to my bench if you were including other players. Still plenty of quality on there - Wood, Bonnaire, Weepu, Allen, F Steyn etc..

Bekker + Habana
4
Parrisse + Donald

?

Gives you the matching pair of JP and Habana, a top 10 lock and rid of donald (who i will immediately release for cash!)

Ayerza + Croft + Clerc + Roberts + McCalman + Aplon/Mealamu
=
Jenkins + Thomson + Pietersen + Hook + Parrisse + Poit/Hore

Ayerza + Heymans + Roberts + Aplon
=
Jenkins + Pieterson + Hook + Poit.

Enq

That's because Haskell is at least on a par with Croft, maybe less so in some departments.

And I'm taking the same tact as you. Don't want to lose Croft unless it's for one of the better 6's, unless I gain somewhere else.

No I didn't say that at all. And it's not even concrete that, that offer would be accepted or considered by Driver. But Haskell is definitely more versatile than Thomson. Whereas Thomson would only be back up, as is JVN.

You need to learn that you need to lose some, to gain some. You can't go around offering stupid offers like you have done to Driver for example. There's no way he'll accept as he loses out on Carter and Haskell.

I would actually.

My preference mate. Just becuase it doesn't suit you doesn't mean it's the be all and end all.

Like you stated about Parrise, is like what I want for Croft. I will only let him go for particular players. Parrise is one of those.

Now if you aren't going to play ball over that concept. We shall forget the two and carry on with others. As I would like other players off you.

I have made other offers. And I have stated I'm interested in Jenkins, Hook and JP. You need to pay a bit more attention. Therefore, food for thought;

Ayerza + Roberts + Clerc
=
Jenkins + Hook + JP

Enq

Ayerza + Roberts + Clerc + Aplon
=
Jenkins + Hook + JP + Poit

Thought you could play Thomson or Collins there to be honest. How about

Bekker and habana and palu/Waldron
4
Parrisse and Donald

Right, you get a huge improvement at lock, one of the best wingers in the world and a top ten replacement 8. I also take crabby Donald off your hands. Think that's a very generous offer. Two big improvements to your team

Brussow & Mermoz & Bonnaire & Flood
4
Warburton & Hook & Thomson & Slade & J.Davies

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Mate why do you keep offering me the same deal. I've already said I won't lose Brussow for Warburton or Mermoz for Hook. Only players I'm interested in are Chisholm, Parisse, Poitrenaud

Wouldn't do any of your offers.

Habana 4 Pietersen i would consider, but the only gain i can see is Gethin, but not for Steenkemp, so

Habana + Saunders
4
Jenkins + Tuilagi
?

I'd consider that i guess, not willing to confirm, got a few other deals out there, habana is a wanted man, but reckon thats my best offer to you so far! You even keep JP! Play jacobsen at 1 or sign Corbs from foreigns

Habana 4 Tuilagi is also pathetic, so the gaps are equal. Tuilagi won't get near my side, but gethin is almost starting, whilst habana is world class and saunders won't get near your side.

I don't want any of your players other then gethin or parisse (your not selling, so limits your options to jenkins) said that countless times, im trying to help you out, but you don't help yourself fella! im not going to do a deal just to benefit you, im trying to push for a top 4 spot!

as i said, play jacobsen at 1, he was on the bottom of many peoples top tens, check my links and list to the old 606 page if you don't believe me.

ok well, i'll see what i can do, would say bekker and habana are big improvements

Bekker + Habana + Palu
4
Deacon (assume he is your 3rd choice, if not put your worst lock in his place) + Tuilagi + Parrisse

mate i would stretch to 2 big losses, by taking on your worst winger and worst lock for 2 world class players in return, but can't have 3 losses for a big gain on palu, thats not cool.

thought bekker was a good shout, as deacon injured (here and real life!) and jack doesn't play consistently these days, getting on a bit. Even chisholm wont start for oz, with horwill and sharpe in great shape.

Just because Bekker doesn't start, doesn't mean he isn't a good player! I have great strength in depth there. He has started every game, it was a huge surprise to get albacete in the draft, so obviously he now starts.

Your asking for too much mate. If albacete was involved, it would be

Albacete + Palu
4
Chisholm + Parisse

Palu is a top 10 8
Pariss is top 2
Albacete is top 4
Chisholm very lucky to get in top 20, and thats a compliment.

if thats close let me know BEFORE you confirm as im not sure. If it isn't then we can't deal. i have easter coming in, so no need to be mugged off.

Sorry mate, prefer Read to Parisse and Tonga is much better than Jenkins so I can't see a gain in any of those.

I don't see much point in swapping the centres, otherwise I might as well have your team lol! Therefore mate;

Ayerza + Roberts + Hougaard + Clerc
=
Jenkins + Hook + Kelleher + JP

Enq

Like I stated I don't want to swap the pair of centres, what is the point in that?

If you're moving me out of negotiating for players I want, forget trying to get players you want - even if you believe they are rated better.

You are rather melodramatic aren't you.

Three offers there. None I want to do because there aren't players I want. Move on to someone else for a few days.

Mate, it's no wander your not getting deals and getting frustrated, your asking for way too much and thinking that people should do youna favour as your bottom of the league. Albacete is my key player as well mate!

You can't have gear, I have offered habana, world class, needs no
Introduction and has good partnership with jp.

How about Easter instead of palu then? On the previous deal

No I wanted to do;

Clerc + Roberts
=
JP + Hook

But you'd pulled out, even after suggesting such an offer.

I have been fair, but since you messed me around and lost interest in players I wanted I've moved onto other targets.

Lawes + Ayerza + Roberts + Ansbro
=
Chisholm + Jenkins + Hook + Davies

Enq

After a lock and a wing, already offered habana Albacete and bekker!

At least I'm trying to do something to appease you - your majesty.

At least I'm trying to do something to appease you - your majesty.

I have literally no idea what your last post meant. I have made you countless offers, with huge players involved and all with two gains. I can't get anywhere with you, it's impossible.

Bekker and palu and habana
4
jack and parrise

I'll accept the four part deal.

You interested in Kruger?

bekker and easter
4
parisse and donald

perhaps, enq only

Whitelock > Davies > Chisholm => Kruger > Jack >> Deacon imo

No chance of you getting them too unless its stupid

Offered you him as a starter. No interest in anything else mate

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/F20417967?thread=8064803&skip=1450&show=50

easter consistently top 10, on average about 6th. obviously a step down from parrisse but bekker is far and away the best lock in this game not starting. most people had him top 10, he hand another cracking s15 season and would start in most teams on here. could remove donald and do a 2 4 1?

You are dreaming mate.
Davies > chisholm so why would I do that, you can't really improve me much elsewhere.
Kruger is a different level to Deacon he only doesn't start cos I have Davies + Whitelock. Thats like saying Guildford is cack cos he doesn't start for New Zealand
Marty different level to both of them as an OC

Alright Mr Bear.

Any chance you could come over a vote quickly on the Furious League as it is just yours outstanding.

Cheers

Enq.

Bekker + Spies
=
Chisholm + Parisse

^^

haha! good luck with that, he'll ask you for genia thorn and rougerie for parisse!

Depends what you think to my enquiry.

Not being funny mate, but would consider lock a much bigger problem then tweaking your back row. Two average locks, but 2 very good flankers and a great 8.

Chisholm + Jack + Parisee
for
Boric + AWJ + Lobbe?

I'd accept if you'r ebeing serious?

Spies & Flood & Mermoz & Rougerie
4
Parisse & Slade & Roberts & Mapasua

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No.

Spies < Parisse
Flood > Slade
Mermoz > Roberts
Rougerie > Mapusua

Don't complain about never doing deals mate and then bang around offering deals like that to everyone - you'll get 9 No's back.