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Manager - Gloucester Bear
Club Captain - Byron Kelleher
Vice Captain - Kelly Brown
Squad Numbers - 28
Budget - 21 million

Hookers
John Smit
Benoit August

Props
Fabien Barcella
Neemia Tialata
Mike Ross(Loan)

Locks
Danie Rossouw
Louis Deacon
Anthony Boric

Flankers
Dan Lydiate
Joe Van Niekerk
Ben McCalman
Sam Warburton
Ashley Johnson

Scrum Half
Byron Kelleher
Chris Cusiter

Fly Half
Toby Flood
Stephen Donald

Centres
Jonathan Davies
Seilala Mapasua
David Marty
Anthony Fainga'a

Wingers
Leigh Halfpenny
Alesana Tuilagi
Rod Davies
Vincent Clerc

Full Backs
Keith Earls

Starting 15
1.Fabien Barcella
2.John Smit
3.Neemia Tialata
4.Anthony Boric
5.Danie Rossouw
6.Joe Van Niekerk
7.Sam Warburton
8.Ben McCalman
9.Byron Kelleher
10.Toby Flood
11.Vincent Clerc
12.Seilala Mapasua
13.David Marty
14.Leigh Halfpenny
15.Keith Earls

I'll accept the four part deal if you do Russouw for Chisholm, Still the same gain there.

Kruger + Hari + Lydiate 4 Warburton + Parrisse + Deacon

Parrisse =>
Warburton >
Kruger <(<)

check now...

He's still 4th choice, he started because of injuries. Kruger would be definitely 3rd choice maybe even start. and yer difference between h+p is slight

I wouldn't say enough to give him a rating on here. I'd mark you down if you started him

So the offe rwould now be;

Russouw + Croft + McCalman + Hougaard
=
Chisholm + Thomson + Parisse + Kelleher

Parrisse =>
Thomson <<

Whitelock >
Kruger >
Hari =<
Davies doesnt affect me

Marty & Hari & Cusiter & 1/2p & Jane
4
Roberts & Parisse & Kelleher & Guildford & Clerc
Marty >
Hari =<
Cussiter =>
1/2p =<
Jane >CLerc

I'd have Russouw over Lawes any day, at the current time. Lawes will be a good player. But not as good as Russouw atm, who has kept Bakkies out of the Bulls shirt sometime in the S15 this year.

Ps. You need update YOUR page.

Could do your original offer. Got Lawes back mate.

Boric + Brown
for
Jack + Thomson

I'd still go for Butch mate , Better than Slade and Donald

Yeah i would sell him, but not for £20m. Its supply vs demand and there is no one of his quality available for me to replace him with, so you will have to pay over the odds, obviously. Like buying a footy player when they have 3 years left on their contract!

Grey + Kankowski

for

Jack + Parisse

Bekker 22 million
Albacete 32 million
Nallet 27 million

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Fair enough, not bad offers, but to lose one of my starters, i need replacements of similar class, so that brings me back to Parisse.

Wouldn't do Bekker at 22m, if you want some free advice, i would go for Hoeata at 18m. An absolute brute, big hitter, great workload, serious option at 6. He is going to be a real force in the 3N, heard it hear first

Yeah i know how good bekker is, cheers, i signed him!

£32m is great, but what/who can i spend that on that improves my team in any area and makes up for the loss?

Lawes & Croft & McCalman & Hougaard
4
Chisholm & Thomson & Parisse & Kelleher

?

GloucesterBear wrote:You won't lose because Bekker can step in if you want to sell Albacete or Nallet for fantastic prices.

Your team looks strong all over the field, maybe Steenkamp being a bit of a weakness. Coenie Oosthuizen should get ratings on here, he is an incredible player.

Well of course i will lose ratings, if i lose a top 4 lock for a top 10 lock! thats just silly! at the moment, i reckon Nallet-Albacete is the best or 2nd best pairing in the league.

Steen isn't a weakness mate, about 5th in the world! He is my weakest front rower, but thats cos Franks and BDP are world beaters. You said it yourself, getting in someone inexperienced at the highest level is a risk, so no point getting coonie.

Surely you can see my point?

Thats even worse fella, for the same reason we just discussed, but not enough cash to replace chisholm

Bathite wrote:Yeah i know how good bekker is, cheers, i signed him!

£32m is great, but what/who can i spend that on that improves my team in any area and makes up for the loss?

Same theory applies fella, how come you don't understand that? It could be £50m, but my team is still worse off!

Would only swap him with Carter mate

I'd reject £100m

I'd reject it with £100m

Spies & McAlister & Rougerie & Dagg
4
Parisse & Roberts & Mapasua & Poitrenaud

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I could maybe stretch to:

Spies & McAlister & F Steyn
4
Parisse & Roberts/Mapusua & Poitrenaud

enq.

But you'd be breaking up two of my combo's - centre and back three. Francois is as good as Dagg.

What about:

Parisse + Poit
=
Spies + McAlister + Steyn

enq.

Burger & Easter & Bekker & Gear & Maitland
4
Warburton & Parisse & Chisholm & Clerc & Guildford

2 gains out of 5 there mate and 1 is minimal

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Pape & Easter & Bekker & Habana & Maitland
4
Parisse & Chisholm & Tuilagi & Guildford

You get 2 huge gains and an extra player, i get 1 big gain, 2 small gain

Might do that, but let me know, only an enq for now

Williams + Ansbro + JVN + McCalman
=
Chisholm + Maps + Brown + Parisse

Enq

Yes you are.

Its Gear that i don't want to lose, thats why im offering habana and taking tuilagi who is much much worse then clerc

Easter & Bekker & Habana & Maitland
4
Parisse & Chisholm & Tuilagi & Guildford

Two losses for tiny gain - no!

Williams > Chisholm
And
Jvn > Brown

Easter & Bekker & Habana
4
Parisse & Jack/Chisholm & Tuilagi

No real consistency in your offers mate. You now saying you want maitland and guildford in same team, but all your offers have had Maitland 4 Guildford!!

Its not about my best player for you best player, your squad needs improving in more areas then mine, so i have offered you a deal with more gains to you rather then me.

Habana is world class but off form but is a massive gain as you said, so whats not to like?

Chisholm is turd, absolute turd, bekker is top ten, another massive gain.

2 huge gains for you, 1 gain for me, simples

Okay then;

Aplon
=
Poit

Enq

Really? Best SA fullback other than Steyn.

Well suggest something mate. Not really interested in losing Whitelock/Kaino.
Would like a partner for Marty, hence was going to pair him with Poit.

Fire away.

Didn't think you listened buddy.

"Not really interested in losing Whitelock/Kaino."
And...
"Would like a partner for Marty"

Not too bothered about Parisse due to the fact I have Kaino now.

McCalman + Hougaard + TPN
=
Parisse + Kelleher + Hore

Enq

Whitelock + McCalman + Hougaard + Evans
=
Chisholm + Parisse + Kelleher + Roberts

Enq

Right I have thought about it and although this stitches me up, i reckon it might be what you want. One of my bestest players a starting all black, a wc winger, yada yada yada

Gear + Palu
4
Guildford + Parisse

Hynes + Kankowski + Kellock

for

Guildford + Parrise

ENQ

No i couldn't, im really pushing it at the deal above, deal still stands.

Gear + Palu
4
Guildford + Parisse

No worries, im going to list all your players im interested in

Parrisse

Only messing, but let me know about the deal above, im not certain, but pretty keen. Could do easter for palu instead but thats the only change i reckon

Okay mate. Well if we did my variation but I chucked in a fifth gain to you. Is that better?

Blimey, you like to make it complicated don't you! Need to use my engineering degree to do get my head round your posts on my page!

Okay mate.

Whitelock + McCalman + Hougaard + Evans
=
Chisholm + Parisse + Kelleher + Roberts

That was my offer. Therefore if I chuck in a another gain for you...

Whitelock + McCalman + Hougaard + Evans + Sheridan
=
Chisholm + Parisse + Kelleher + Roberts + Ayerza

That sound better?

If it comes to it;

Whitelock + McCalman
=
Chisholm + Parisse

But, I would do;

Whitelock + McCalman + Evans + Sheridan
=
Chisholm + Parisse + Roberts + Ayerza

Two Gains each?

Gear + Easter + Todd
4
Guildford + Parisse + Louw

Whitelock + McCalman + Evans + TPN
=
Chisholm + Parisse + Roberts + Hore

Would that swing it?

Right so if I picked Hougaard/Kelleher, what does the offer look like mate?

Easter & Habana & Maitland & Alba
4
Parisse & Davies & Guildford & Boric

maybe?

losing the will to live here, so much hard work, just to get parrisse. i have a job/life as well mate!