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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed 12 Mar 2014, 12:51 pm

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sodhat wrote:On Gabbert we may laugh now
And for good reason: www.deadspin.com/the-49ers-traded-for-a-historically-awful-quarterback

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Post by NYJ Tue 09 Sep 2014, 1:27 pm

CFCNick wrote:It's all down to the OL. If Eli has more time the receivers can do a job.

You mean all the slot receivers you have, right? They have no go-to guy.

The Giants will win games by running the ball this year and the Lions defense just didn't allow them to do that.
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Post by GSC Tue 09 Sep 2014, 1:33 pm

Can they run the ball with a bad OL mind. Scheme looks a poor fit for Eli who's never been particularly good at making quick reads and getting rid of it.

Dunno, I just got the vibe of desperation this offseason. Never would've believed you a year ago if you'd told me Tom Coughlin and the Giants would be outbidding the Jets for the services of the King of Dogging it (giggle) DRC
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Post by twelve283 Tue 09 Sep 2014, 3:32 pm

Glad I missed the second half of the Patriots - Dolphins game.

GSC wrote:Said it before, reset button might be coming in New York. Team is seriously talent deficient.
Especially on offense.

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Post by CFCNick Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:24 pm

GSC wrote:Can they run the ball with a bad OL mind. Scheme looks a poor fit for Eli who's never been particularly good at making quick reads and getting rid of it.

Dunno, I just got the vibe of desperation this offseason. Never would've believed you a year ago if you'd told me Tom Coughlin and the Giants would be outbidding the Jets for the services of the King of Dogging it (giggle) DRC

Yeah. I wouldn't have switched system before Eli's time is up. I'm still more hopeful than most. Some Giants fans are calling it a 3/4 win season.

I just don't get all the hand signals. What's wrong with a good old yell?

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Post by GSC Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:28 pm

Tbh I'd rather go 2-14 than 7-9. Too many teams are scared to gamble losing mediocrity and trudge along. If you hit rock bottom you have to rebuild.
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Post by GSC Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:31 pm

Seemed to me more of a "we have to scapegoat someone" move to fire Gilbride (not that it wasn't warranted for a while). Then hired a scheme based on how well it would minimise the OLs role and hoped it all came together.

As I say, to me it looked like a case of a FO and coaching staff realising they were in the poop next year with the status quo.
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Post by GSC Wed 10 Sep 2014, 2:24 pm

Trivia of the Day: What is the only NFL team (except the Giants) that Eli hasn't thrown a pick to?
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Post by SuperTanker Wed 10 Sep 2014, 2:39 pm

Trick Question -None?

Good question, and I definitely want to know the right answer!

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Post by SuperTanker Wed 10 Sep 2014, 3:46 pm

GSC wrote:Trivia of the Day: What is the only NFL team (except the Giants) that Eli hasn't thrown a pick to?

Had some spare time so had to look it up. Thought it may have been the Raiders, but of course he threw one last year. Good question though, and he won't be able to get the full set this year...

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Post by mikeygnfl Wed 10 Sep 2014, 4:33 pm

GSC wrote:Trivia of the Day: What is the only NFL team (except the Giants) that Eli hasn't thrown a pick to?
I want to say the Patriots but going with the Broncos.
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Post by CFCNick Wed 10 Sep 2014, 5:03 pm

He definitely threw a pick to Denver at MetLife recently.

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Post by CFCNick Wed 10 Sep 2014, 5:10 pm

Also I'm going to say Arizona

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Post by GSC Wed 10 Sep 2014, 5:13 pm

All incorrect.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Sep 2014, 8:57 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Sep 2014, 10:12 pm

Olly wrote:Goodell suspends him indefinitely. When it comes out he had the video before hand he'll be the next to go

"@AdamSchefter: A law enforcement official told the AP he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago."
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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed 10 Sep 2014, 10:28 pm

Olly wrote:"@AdamSchefter: A law enforcement official told the AP he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago."
AP wrote:A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 7:04 am

To be honest more people seem intent on getting Goodell fired than any great outrage over handling of said video (to be honest, I really couldn't care).

Which I don't really get because hes just a public face for the owners. If hes replaced, his replacement will do the same things.
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Post by SuperTanker Thu 11 Sep 2014, 11:28 am

Back to the quiz - was the Dolphins I believe.


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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 11:30 am

It was
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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 11:30 am

Brady is also 30/31.

Also 2 QBs have thrown INTs to all 32 teams.
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Post by TM Moot Thu 11 Sep 2014, 12:30 pm

GSC wrote:Also 2 QBs have thrown INTs to all 32 teams.

pretty sure Favre is one, perhaps P. Manning?

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Post by SuperTanker Thu 11 Sep 2014, 1:02 pm

TM Moot wrote:
GSC wrote:Also 2 QBs have thrown INTs to all 32 teams.

pretty sure Favre is one, perhaps P. Manning?

Purely a guess - Warner?

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Post by SuperTanker Thu 11 Sep 2014, 1:05 pm

Or Palmer?

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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 1:10 pm

Favre and Manning have
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Post by CFCNick Thu 11 Sep 2014, 1:34 pm

SuperTanker wrote:Back to the quiz - was the Dolphins I believe.


Both times we've played each other the Dolphins have been 0-7 & 0-6.

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Post by sodhat Thu 11 Sep 2014, 2:11 pm

Ben Roethlisberger is 18-1 against the Browns

Which QB gave Roethlisberger the only defeat?

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Post by CFCNick Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:11 pm

It was in 2009. They sacked him a lot. Delhomme? Anderson?

It was a thursday night game late in the season.

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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:14 pm

Colt McCoy if memory serves
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Post by sodhat Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:20 pm

Wrong, wrong and wrong.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:29 pm

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Post by CFCNick Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:29 pm

Brady Quinn

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Post by sodhat Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:31 pm

Nick has it, it was the mighty Quinn.

And it was in 2009 as you had said, so well done all round.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:54 pm

www.theonion.com/articles/nfl-announces-new-zerotolerance-policy/

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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 4:42 pm

Quite interesting that Belichick was asked about the Patterson trade. Given the way thats shaken out so far, he may want a mulligan.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 11 Sep 2014, 5:20 pm

GSC wrote:Quite interesting that Belichick was asked about the Patterson trade. Given the way thats shaken out so far, he may want a mulligan.
We got Jamie Collins (promising young starter like Patterson), Logan Ryan (good rookie year last season, not a great camp this year and fallen a little on the depth chart, makes plays tho), Josh Boyce (whiffed on him tbf) and we traded the seventh rounder for a great year of production from Blount.

Whilst Patterson is potentially gonna be great, we got our own breakout candidate at LB and other helpful pieces so he'd be happy
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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 5:26 pm

ones already gone, ones on the PS, ones buried on the depth chart and the other isn't as good as Patterson
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 11 Sep 2014, 5:29 pm

Got a good year outta Blount, basically ran us to the AFC title game through January. 

Boyce seems like a failed punt

Ryan 4th string, still getting game time and making plays (forced fumble against Miami)

Collins is a beast. Get on that hypetrain
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Post by GSC Thu 11 Sep 2014, 5:52 pm

You had a bye, that means he had 1 good game.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 11 Sep 2014, 7:13 pm

Well whenever the Baltimore/Buffalo/Indy span was then

Ryan also had the 3rd most INT's in the league last year. 

Patterson's a great player (or going to be) but we did more than as well/if not better from the deal
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Post by skins4ever Thu 11 Sep 2014, 11:43 pm

GSC wrote:Also 2 QBs have thrown INTs to all 32 teams.

Wonder what the odds are on Romo being the 1st to throw 3 or more INT's to every other team in the league? Whistle

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 12 Sep 2014, 10:03 pm

Adrian Peterson charged with reckless or negligent injury to a child (child abuse basically)

Seriously how hard is it to stay outta trouble
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Post by RDuncan8 Fri 12 Sep 2014, 10:26 pm

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/12/adrian-petersons-indictment-for-swatting-son-with-a-switch/

Going by that, it just seems like discipline. Doesn't deserve the "Child Abuse" headline.

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Post by GSC Fri 12 Sep 2014, 10:35 pm

Was he aware it was his son?
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Post by RDuncan8 Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:05 pm

GSC wrote:Was he aware it was his son?

Mebbe...

http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/adrian-peterson-could-have-7-kids-ex/

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:16 pm

Seems to be some pictures in the report that if are legit, are a little more than just a discipline
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:22 pm

Still anyways Vikings fans be like MATT AZIATA FTW
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Post by twelve283 Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:31 pm

RDuncan8 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/12/adrian-petersons-indictment-for-swatting-son-with-a-switch/

Going by that, it just seems like discipline. Doesn't deserve the "Child Abuse" headline.
There are pictures which reportedly show the injuries to the child.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:48 pm

Peterson deactivated Sunday.

If he's found guilty, he's gonna be gone
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Post by RDuncan8 Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:51 pm

More details:

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/

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Post by twelve283 Sat 13 Sep 2014, 12:21 am

Proposed new drug policy that includes HGH testing has passed according to Chris Mortensen.

#freejoshgordon

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