Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Lowlandbrit]

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On Gabbert we may laugh now

And for good reason: www.deadspin.com/the-49ers-traded-for-a-historically-awful-quarterback

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Lolz that's quality deadpan

[BamBam]

After going to bed with the Broncos up 24-0, I've realised a new way to print money

Bet on Andrew Luck to close the spread whenever he is down big, how does he do it every single time?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

The rest of the ray rice video released

It's sickening, just sickening

[CFCNick]

The rest of the ray rice video released

It's sickening, just sickening

Bad enough us watching. Imagine her or her family watching that.

[Lowlandbrit]

Does this mean we're going to get another apology from her for distracting from the Ravens' season?

[Forward Pass]

Just missed the start of the 49ers game. Cowboys

Wish I had

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Does this mean we're going to get another apology from her for distracting from the Ravens' season?

Anything to hide giving Joe flacco that contract eh

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Although he's guaranteed a statue next to ray Lewis now #allegedly

[GSC]

I suspect Ray Rice's release may be imminent

[GSC]

And really for the Ravens to salvage anything from their handling of this, they need to

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Odds he's picked up by Dallas - 1/7

[GSC]

NFL hadn't seen that video. Goodbye Ray Rice.

[Number-25]

Wait a minute... I'm obviously not fully up to speed here... obviously the whole world knows what a horrible little man Ray Rice is but is there an actual video out there of him beating his wife?? And people watch that???

[GSC]

TMZ leaked the video earlier.

[CFCNick]

Ravens officials and league deny ever seeing the "new" footage.

[Lowlandbrit]

NFL hadn't seen that video. Goodbye Ray Rice.

Ravens officials and league deny ever seeing the "new" footage.

How many cameras are supposed to have been in that thing?

[CFCNick]

Have you seen the videos? There's the camera on the floor they enter the lift. There's a camera in the lift and one facing the lift as they come out.

The original leak was him dragging her out. Now we see him actually punch her after they argue on the floor, then they get into the lift, she waves her hands around him and he punches her. Kicks her legs whilst she's half in the lift, half out.

[Lowlandbrit]

Have you seen the videos? There's the camera on the floor they enter the lift. There's a camera in the lift and one facing the lift as they come out.

I meant what happened to the extra footage the league said they saw. I'm guessing they're shocked by this video; shocked it actually saw the light of day.

[Number-25]

Isn't it odd that despite this Ray Rice video being well reported on pretty much every NFL related website, NFL.com has zero about it? No-one can sneeze in the NFL without them putting up one of their "breaking news" banners and yet, today, nothing.

Mr Goodell has some work to do restore his organisation's credibility here.

[NYJ]

Phins might get a wildcard, other than that its really not good. Geno Smith/Manuel aren't good enough to get playoffs

We were one game away from the playoffs last year. Was that Geno's peak?

[GSC]

Ravens holding an 8pm press conference. (1am I think)

Can't see how Rice can stick after that

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Phins might get a wildcard, other than that its really not good. Geno Smith/Manuel aren't good enough to get playoffs

We were one game away from the playoffs last year. Was that Geno's peak?

Tougher schedule this season. Don't think Geno will be the starter come week 12/13 either

[CFCNick]

Jets next 6 are brutal. Could very well be 3-4 at best.

Be interesting at home to Chicago in week 3 if the Bears get smashed by the Niners. Bears could be very down on confidence.

[Lowlandbrit]

Ravens have cut Rice.
https://twitter.com/Ravens/status/509043216977371136

[mikeygnfl]

Ray Rice released by Ravens.
LaMichael James released by 49ers.
LaMichael James signs for Ravens?

[GSC]

The Ravens are the trashest organisation in sports

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Seen people congratulating them

Yep well done for making his wife apologise for getting punched out. Douchebags

[GSC]

They kept him until they couldn't spin his story anymore.

I'd be embarrassed to be a fan to be honest

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Goodell suspends him indefinitely. When it comes out he had the video before hand he'll be the next to go

[RDuncan8]

Wasted a mid-round pick on him. No consideration for fantasy owners.

[GSC]

No he won't.

Not a chance

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Robert Mathis tore his achilles

[Lowlandbrit]

Goodell suspends him indefinitely.

What a bold, courageous move...

[TM Moot]

Wasted a mid-round pick on him. No consideration for fantasy owners.

hah, me too...

[Number-25]

Wasted a mid-round pick on him. No consideration for fantasy owners.

hah, me too...

Can I join this club? I wasted picks on him in the East league and the Keeper league. Thought I was being smart! It's a measure of how socially repugnant he's become that I was uncomfortable even having him on my fantasy rosters!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Rice better get on the phone to see if Josh Gordon can get him a job at that car dealership!

Gets what he deserves , just a shame the Ravens made such an arse of dealing with the situation in the first place.

[Number-25]

According to NFL media, the Ravens heard a "softer" version of events initially

I was forgetting that there was such a thing a "soft" domestic violence... unbelievable

[Number-25]

Rice better get on the phone to see if Josh Gordon can get him a job at that car dealership!

Gets what he deserves , just a shame the Ravens made such an arse of dealing with the situation in the first place.

It's a shame but unfortunately, not surprising. This is the organisation that not only sheltered Ray Lewis for years but somehow made him a hero.

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Rice better get on the phone to see if Josh Gordon can get him a job at that car dealership!

Gets what he deserves , just a shame the Ravens made such an arse of dealing with the situation in the first place.

It's a shame but unfortunately, not surprising. This is the organisation that not only sheltered Ray Lewis for years but somehow made him a hero.

Yes not surprising. It appears with Rice that they could handle him beating a woman, they just didn't want the World to see it!

[Lowlandbrit]

According to NFL media, the Ravens heard a "softer" version of events initially

From Jason La Canfora earlier:

Ravens officials had not seen this Rice video prior to today but he had described actions in detail. Didn't "sugarcoat" it source said...
So while the actual footage today was new to the Ravens visually, the description Rice gave them was in line with what the video displayed

Seems to be a lot of skepticism in general from insiders, presumably fuelled by how many reporters known for passing on what the league wants people to know are suddenly struggling to explain why they said the NFL had seen the video. Either they had, or they very much wanted people to think they had.

Oh, and the Ravens finally got round to deleting this tweet: https://twitter.com/Ravens/status/469918292061061120

[NYJ]

Jason La Canfora is a hack who's opinion can't be trusted.

[GSC]

Yeah La Canfora is garbage

[skins4ever]

Goodell suspends him indefinitely.

What a bold, courageous move...

Yep, let's suspend him 2 games after knocking out his GF. Oh we can't do more as we don't have access to full video of the event so can't judge more harshly (actually it looks like you did). Oh hang on, there's a public outcry that we are punishing players way harder for recreational drug violations than domestic violence. Let's just backtrack a bit there and say something with the benefit of hindsight. OK, so this video is in the public forum and has gone viral, so that gives us a chance to apply a more severe retrospective punishment and tell everyone it's because of 'new evidence'.

Hmm, yes Mr Goodell, you've done yourself proud yet again. Methinks your two predecessors are going to be sat in the HOF laughing at you one day, as you fail to get in there yourself.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Ballsy move from NYG to go with the "no coverage" scheme on Megatron

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Megatron currently on pace for 200 TDs this season

[CFCNick]

Last time the Lions started like that they lost.

[mikeygnfl]

Last time the Lions started like that they lost.

Giants back in it. Stupid mistakes cost the Lions there.

[GSC]

Said it before, reset button might be coming in New York. Team is seriously talent deficient.

[CFCNick]

It's all down to the OL. If Eli has more time the receivers can do a job. The D showed it's still good enough but played an awful lot of minutes. The true death was the Lions converting 3rd & 7 at midfield with a little over 11 minutes left at 27-14. Then they managed to run off 7 minutes over the next 45-50 yards for the TD.

I have to seriously question why they are changing the system with a guy as long in the job as Eli. Couldn't they hold off the change until the next guy comes in. Or perhaps sticking with it now will be beneficial to Nassib.

Confident of a win next week.

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Said it before, reset button might be coming in New York. Team is seriously talent deficient.

Yes, especially with Eli heading towards a contract year. If things don't improve I can see a clear out coming.

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