Gameweek 4

Week 4
Bengals @ Chargers

Bengals:

Chargers:

Broncos @ Colts

No team/tactics from the Broncos, a win for the Colts

Patriots @ Chiefs

Pats:

Chiefs:

49ers @ Packers

49ers:

Packers:

Saints @ Panthers

Saints:

Panthers:

Seahawks @ Eagles

Seahawks:

Eagles:

QB: Luck
RB: Brown
WR: T.Y. Hilton
WR: Rodgers
TE: Allen
TE: Fleener
RT: Cherilus
RG: Linkenbach
C: Wisniewski
LG: Mankins
LT: Thomas

Defense (3-4)

NT: Franklin
RDE: Wilkerson
LDE: Redding
ROLB: Mathis
LOLB: Walden
ILB: Freeman
ILB: Sheppard
CB: Davis
CB: Hall
S: Bethea
S: Nelson

Special Teams

LS: Matt Overton
KR: LaVon Brazill
PR: T.Y. Hilton
K: Adam Vinatieri
P: Pat McAfee

New Orleans Saints

QB - Drew Brees
RB - Pierre Thomas
WR - Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, Kenny Stills,
TE - Jimmy Graham
OT - Trent Williams, Zach Strief
OG - Ben Grubbs, Jahri Evans
C - Brian De La Puente

DL - Calais Campbell, Broderick Bunckley, Akeem Hicks
OLB - Cameron Wake, Junior Galette
ILB - Curtis Lofton, David Hawthorne
S - Roman Harper, Kenny Vaccaro
CB - Darrelle Revis, Keenan Lewis

K - Shayne Graham
P - Thomas Morstead
PR/KR - Darren Sproles.

Offence

QB - Phillip Rivers
RB - Ryan Mathews
WR - Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Tavon Austin
TE - Antonio Gates
RT - DJ Fluker
RG - Jeromey Clary
C - Nick Hardwick
LG - Marshal Yanda
LT - King Dunlap

Defence

DL - JJ Watt, Marcel Dareus, Corey Liuget
OLB -Dwight Freeney, Melvin Ingram
ILB - Manti Te'o, Bront Bird
CB - Alterraun Verner, Shareece Wright
S - Eric Weddle, Tyrann Mathieu

Special teams

P - Mike Scifres
K - Nick Novak
KR/PR - Tavon Austin
LS - Mike Windt

Philadelphia Eagles
QB - Nick Foles
RB - LeSean McCoy
WR - Antonio Brown, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin
TE - Zach Ertz
OT - Jason Peters, Lane Johnson
OG - Todd Herremans, Evan Mathis
C - Travis Kelce

DL - Trent Cole, Chris Jones, Nick Fairley, Jurrell Casey, Robert Quinn (left end to right end, same for below)
LB - Mychal Kendricks, Lavonte David
CB - Brent Grimes, Cary Williams
S - Harrison Smith, Nate Allen
(Brandon Boykin in slot for 3 receiver sets, Chris Jones out)

K - Alex Henery
P - Donnie Jones
PR/KR - DeSean Jackson

Offence
QB - Aaron Rodgers
WR - Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb
RB - Eddie Lacy
TE - Jermichael Finley
LT - Tyron Smith
LG - Josh Sitton
C - Evan Dietrich-Smith
RG - T.J Lang
RT - David Bakhitari

Defence
DL - B.J Raji, Haloti Ngata, Ryan Pickett
ILB - A.J Hawk, Kiko Alonso
OLB - Clay Matthews, Mike Neal
Cornerbacks - Sam Shields, Casey Hayward
SS - T.J Ward
FS - Morgan Burnett

Special Teams
K - Mason Crosby
P - Tim Masthay
PR/KR - Randall Cobb
S - Brett Goode

Cincinnati Bengals

Offense:

QB - Matt Ryan
FB - Orson Charles
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis/Gio Bernard
WR - AJ Green
WR - Julio Jones
TE - Jermaine Gresham/Tyler Eifert

LT - Anthony Collins
LG - Andrew Whitworth
C - Kyle Cook
RG - Kevin Zeitler
RT - Andre Smith

Defense:

DE - Carlos Dunlap
DT - Geno Atkins
DT - Kyle Williams
DE - Wallace Gilberry
MLB - Sean Lee
WLB - Vontaze Burfict

CB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
CB - Dre Kirkpatrick
CB - Leon Hall
SS - Duke Ihenacho
FS - Taylor Mays

Kansas

Forward Pass wrote:Kansas City Chiefs
Week 4 lineup

Offense
QB -- Ben Roethlisburger
RB 25 Jamaal Charles
WR -- Josh Gordon, WR  
WR 82 Dwayne Bowe
WR 17 Donnie Avery
TE 80 Anthony Fasano
74 Geoff Schwartz G/T            
71 Jeff Allen G/T                  
61 Rodney Hudson C/G      
73 Jon Asamoah G              
72 Eric Fisher T  

Defense 3-4      
       
Defensive linemen
94 Tyson Jackson DE          
92 Dontari Poe NT                
70 Mike DeVito DE      
Linebackers
50 Justin Houston OLB              
-- Lawrence Timmons        
55 Akeem Jordan ILB        
91 Tamba Hali OLB      
Defensive backs
24 Brandon Flowers CB        
27 Sean Smith CB                
29 Eric Berry SS                    
23 Kendrick Lewis FS  

Special teams
2 Dustin Colquitt P
43 Thomas Gafford LS
6 Ryan Succop K
22 Dexter McCluster KO & Punt Returner

Carolina Panthers

Offence
QB 1 Cam Newton
RB 28 Adrian Peterson
FB 35 Mike Tolbert/ WR 11 Brandon LaFell
WR 13 Keenan Allen
LT 69 Jordan Gross
LG 70 Travelle Wharton
OC 64 Brian Folkerts
RG 75 Chris Scott
RT 77 Byron Bell
TE 88 Greg Olsen
WR 84 Cordarrelle Patterson

Defence
DE 95 Charles Johnson
DT 99 Kawann Short
DT 98 Star Lotulelei
DE 76 Greg Hardy
LB 93 Chase Blackburn
LB 59 Luke Kuechly
LB 58 Thomas Davis
CB 23 Melvin White
FS 21 Mike Mitchell
SS 27 Quintin Mikell
CB 41 Captain Munnerlyn

Special Teams
K 9 Graham Gano
LS 44 J. J. Jansen
P 8 Brad Nortman
KR 84 Cordarrelle Patterson
PR 19 Ted Ginn, Jr.

Here is the 49ers team too:-

QB - Colin Kaepernick
RB - Frank Gore
WR - Brandon Marshall, Michael Crabtree, Anquan Boldin
TE - Vernon Davis
OT - Joe Staley, Anthony Davis
OG - Mike Iupati, Alex Boone
C - Daniel Kilgore

DL - Gerald McCoy, Justin Smith, Ray McDonald
OLB - Aldon Smith, Dan Skuta
ILB - Patrick Willis, Navarro Bowman
S - Eric Reid, Donte Whitner
CB - Tarell Brown, Trumaine Brock

K - Phil Dawson
P - Andy Lee
PR/KR - Lamichael James

Patriots

QB - Tom Brady
RB - Shane Vereen
WR - Larry Fitzgerald
WR - Reggie Wayne
WR - Julian Edelman
TE - Rob Gronkowski
LT - Nate Solder
LG - Evan Mathis
C - Alex Mack
RG - Marcus Cannon
RT - Sebastian Vollmer

LE - Rob Ninkovich
DT - Ndamukong Suh
DT - Vince Wilfork
RE - Chandler Jones
WLB - Jerod Mayo
ILB - Jamie Collins
CB - Patrick Peterson
CB - Aqib Talib
CB - Logan Ryan
FS - Devin McCourty
SS - Steve Gregory

K - Steven Gostkowski
P - Ryan Allen
KR/PR - Julian Edelman
LS - Danny Aiken

Offence
QB - Russel Wilson
WR - Dez Bryant, Percy Harvin
RB - Marshawn Lynch / Matt Forte
FB - Michael Robinson
TE - Jason Witten / Zach Miller
LT - Russell Okung
LG - James Carpenter
C - Max Unger
RG - JR Sweeney
RT - Breno Giacomini

Defence
LDE - Red Bryant/Michael Bennett
LDT - Tony McDaniel
RDT - Brandon Mebane
RDE - Chris Clemons/Cliff Avril
LOLB - Bruce Irvin
MLB - Bobby Wagner/KJ Wright
ROLB - Malcolm Smith
CB - Brandon Browner
CB - Byron Maxwell
SS - Kam Chancellor
FS - Earl Thomas

Special Teams
K - Shaun Hausckha
H & P - Jon Ryan
PR - Percy Harvin
KR - Percy Harvin
LS - Zach Millar

Where's tactics Olly you slacker

Sorry just had my haircut, will be up within the hour

That's a fantastic excuse. Might use it next time someone asks me to do overtime.

I have genuinely been this morning

Yeah yesterday I was at the footie and then work and then I just watched Tettey's goal forever

All I got is now up!

I didn't realise Julio Jones was back this week. I think I was looking at the Bengals team from last week. I really need to stop doing my tactics after getting back from the pub...

Emm, I just realised that I have Mathis in my team. He's actually now a Patriot so that was meant to be Matt Tobin. I copied the wrong team before. Apologies.

Bengals 26-24 Chargers
Colts 30-0 Broncos
Patriots 31-26 Chiefs
Niners 25-31 Packers
Saints 30-23 Panthers
Seahawks 24-23 Eagles

Let me know who gets bonuses and I can update budgets, want to get a foreign in before the team deadline this week

Full: Barney, BamBam, forward pass, JDizzle, CJB, Sodhat
Half: Moot, Mikey, Olly

Agh, 1 point. So close.

Bengals 17 v 23 Chargers
The Bengals gameplan expects a passing game from the Chargers but they go for a run-game with Matthews running behind the big left tackle. If they get their run-game going which they should do against the nickel defence then it could force the Bengals to bring extra players into the box giving the receivers more room to work. Hall is a very quick corner but I wonder if he'll be able to contain Austin by himself. I also believe the Bengals will find it harder to run on this team than they expect. Watt and Dareus won't be the easiest to run on at all. Chargers win this one, running behind King Dunlap. Mathieu should match up well against Bernard, although Green and Jones might be tough for the secondary to handle.

Colts beat Broncos

Patriots 30 v 20 Chiefs
The Patriots improved O-line should give Brady time to find any of of the wealth of options he now has at his disposal. I'm not sure if the Chiefs defence is quite able to match up with them to be honest. Wayne should prove too much for Smith and Edelman should be able to have some success against the safety. The occasional draw to keep them honest should also provide decent yards. Peterson and Talib should be able to cover Gordon and Bowe, maybe with a bit of help for Gordon. Charles will see a lot of the ball and this will slow Brady down somewhat, but I can't see it being enough especially once the Pats get ahead.

49ers 21 v 27 Packers
The 49ers front seven is usually able to mask what is a poor secondary but not this time. Megatron gives Rodgers something he didn't have when playing against the niners in the past, a big receiver on the outside. They need a safety to help cover him leaving either Nelson or Cobb or both in one on one coverage which Rodgers should be able to take advantage of. I feel the niners gameplan is quite limited, not really saying how they plan on stopping a great receiving corps. Alonso give the Packers a bit more athleticism in the linebackers which should slow down Davis. Tight game decided by Megatron magic.

Saints 24 v 21 Panthers
I like the Saints plan of taking advantage of the Panthers secondary. Jackson, Colston and Stills would probably be too much for them without including Jimmy Graham. Having said that I do like the plan of having Blackburn help the safety covering Graham. That may leave them vulnerable outside however. Revis taking Allen should mean that Lewis will get help taking Patterson if need be. It also lets the focus be on stopping Newton and Peterson. The run game of the Panthers is effective but they don't get enough joy to beat Brees' Saints.

Barney's

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Bengals 27 @ Chargers 20
Bengals run game gets early lead, Chargers respond but the returning Jones wins it late.

Patriots 21 @ Chiefs 24
Real close one, Brady having a rough day but keeping the Pats close until Succop kicks a game winning FG at the death.

49ers 28 @ 18 Packers
Big away win, Packers getting outfought but aggressive 9ers.

Saints 27 @ 28 Panthers
Panthers D winning this one with 2 pick 6s in 2nd half to turn the match after VJax goes big early on.

Moot's

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Bengals 23 - 21 Chargers

Bengals gameplan is good in theory, but the Chargers DL will be very tough to run against even with Dareus not being a true nose, as all 3 collapse the pocket and Teo is a very good run stuffer. BJGE can't get 8 yards unless its off 3 straight runs! However, Chargers will struggle to cover Green and Jones, and the Bengals will have success there

Chargers are set up to run and Bengals are playing the pass. With Chargers running at Gilberry behind Dunlap, I think they will do very well there at the beginning of the game. I think Chargers receivers will also have success, I don't rate Kirkpatrick and think either of Smith/Johnson will have a field day there without safety help.

Tough one to call, but think the Bengals just have enough to sneak one here

Patriots 23 - 27 Chiefs

I reckon the Chiefs DBs match up well to the Pats offence, 2 very good CBs and the safety and LBs to contain Gronk. They are expecting the passing game, and are well set up to contain it, especially given the strength of their pass rush. However the Pats O Line does look strong, and I don't think either side will have the upper hand by much.

Pats game plan is good defensively, but they are taking a risk leaving Gordon 1 on 1 with Peterson, as he has the tendency to get beaten and with no safety help that is a definite TD. Charles is also likely to have success, given the lack of LBs on the field. Big Ben is a big factor, as he will give Gordon and co the chance to get open,

Pats are better on paper, but given the game plan and the respective strengths of the teams, I'm giving this to the Chiefs at home

49ers 27 - 20 Packers

49ers are weak in the secondary, but their front 7 will do some real damage. Front 4 can get after Rodgers, and their LBs will be a real factor in stopping the passing game, although they have no real answer for Megatron. Using the screen just won't work against SF, as Bowman and Reid are outstanding at getting to the ball carrier from almost any position

Kaep and co torch the Packers D on a regular basis, so I see no reason why this would change, as the Packers still look weak in key positions.

This comes down to whether I think Megatron can make one more play than Kaep and co, and I don't think Rodgers will have the time, especially given the pressure that McCoy adds. 49ers win

Seahawks 20 - 24 Eagles

Seahawks plan is likely to be negated by the 5 DL line up of the Eagles, will make it very tough to run on them especially with David around. In the passing game, Williams vs Harvin is just a mismatch, can see Harvin doing real damage, and Smith's support will definitely be needed. I like the Eagles gameplan, will limit the effectiveness of the Seahawks

Eagles are pretty much using their standard game plan, and without Sherman I think they can target the secondary, especially given Jackson's speed to force the safeties to respect the deep game. McCoy will do well, even against the Seahawks strong DL given his running ability

Overall, with the strong tactics and not much in between them elsewhere, I give this to Eagles

Bambam's

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Bengals 24 @ 26 Chargers
Good tactics all round
Like both sides running the ball before getting the passing game going
Home advantage helps Chargers to win a close one as Mathews out gains BJGE

49ers 27 @ 30 Packers
Another good match up
Tactics ok from GBP bit short for Niners [for obvious reasons]
very close game again home advantage helps the decision
Also in a open game I would take Rodgers over Kap every time

Saints 23 @ 27 Panthers
Good tactics from both sides
Like the other games this will be another close one
Think AP will have a good day
Panthers will win this one

Seahawks 24 @ 27 Eagles
Every game has been close this week
Like the tactics
Not sure why but just feel the Eagles will upset the Seahawks

Forward Pass's

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Bengals 23@30 Chargers
It's no secret I'm a fan of the Bengals and I think the running attack is a good game-plan giving the defensive tactics of the Chargers to drop deeper but I'm not sure it suits their players and with Watt and Dareus its still an intimidating line. They do have the ability to win with their passing but Chargers slightly slow this down. Similarly Chargers have a very strong game plan and I think they experience a lot of early success with the run and secure the win through the air.

Pats 24@20 Chiefs
Scary offence. Not only the weapons for Brady but the O-Line which gives Brady time to pick his targets. Charles needs to have a huge day for Chiefs, but he only has a big one. 160 yardish but receivers can't do enough despite more overall time of possesion.

Saints 22@17 Panthers
The Saints O-line is one of the strongest but their receiving corps isn't as strong. Think if the Panthers front seven can get to the Saints they will slow their offence down. I don't think the panthers can get their offence going enough to overcome this despite some early success

Seattle 25@16 Eagles
Eagles defensively are set up well to counter Seattle. Can't see them getting a huge amount offensively. Eagles aren't so strong without Mathis and they just can't stop the Seattle defence.

CJB's

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Patriots 31 - 21 Chiefs

Pats passing game is just too much for the Chiefs here. They have so many options that they always going to be making big plays and moving the chains. The Chiefs just can't shut down everyone. This is whilst the Pats can shut down the two Chiefs WRs well with Talib and Peterson and despite Charles making some big plays they just can't keep pace with the Pats high powered offence.

Packers 24 - 21 49ers

Despite the front 7 of the 49ers shutting down Lacy and getting some pressure on Rodgers, I think the weak secondary of the niners is just too much to overcome with Megatron and Nelson making some big gains. The GB defence can then make just enough plays to keep themself with a narrow lead and sneak over the line in a close game.

Saints 27 - 17 Panthers

Again, think the Saints have enough home run hitters in their line up to make some big plays against the Panthers secondary. Whilst getting physical against Graham is a good ploy, he will still have an impact even if it is only drawing protection away from Jackson who will have a big day. The Panthers rushing attack will have some success but Patterson and Allen will shut down effectively enough for the Saints to get over the line.

Seahawks 17 - 14 Eagles

Low scorer, but tight game here. The Seahawks defence, even without Sherman is still mean against the pass as it's still good secondary combined with the pass rush will put Foles under some serious pressure and even McCoy can be contained somewhat. Having said that, think Quinn has a big game getting after Wilson but I feel that the Seahawks D will make one more bigger play and take one to the house off Foles to secure the win.

JDizzle's

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Week 4
Bengals 17-13 Chargers

Patriots 24-27 Chiefs

49ers 24-26 Packers

Seahawks 33-27 Eagles

Mikey's

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Bengals 20-17 Chargers
A run heavy game and it'll be relatively low scoring because of it. Lots of good thought into the tactics on each side. Chargers could look at a better ILB or two because it's the only weak spot (aside from maybe 2nd corner) of what could be a dominant defense. Anyway, I can see an even game until the latter stages when the Bengals superior passing game can win it.

Pats 35-21 Chiefs
Pats play to their strengths with a passing game that will be an interesting proposition. Will the defense be able to stop it even when it knows it's coming? Defensively I think the ILBs will have a tough time covering Gronkowski on size alone let alone athleticism. If they throw his way he'll be open even when he's covered so the chains will keep moving. The rest of the game plan is sound, but if they had an extra bit of pass rush from their DEs they could make Brady uncomfortable. The Pats defense matches up well against what the Chiefs have. I don't see Mayo being able to completely contain Charles, and if a screen game gets going he could be cleaned out while Charles busts a big gain. Gordon/Peterson will be a great fight, but I can see the extra physicality of Gordon just edging it. Talib will probably take Bowe out of the game and to be honest I'd have put him on Gordon. Pats take the lead and keep scoring, Chiefs try but can't keep up.

49ers 20-30 Packers
Looks like Gregg Williams is the 9ers defensive co-ordinator.
I can't in good faith give a win to the 49ers, who have a strong line-up, because the Packers have a better game plan. If they get to grips with Smith rushing Rodgers then they have receivers capable of battering the 9ers CBs.

Saints 23-17 Panthers
Good plan from the Saints. Panthers strengths are up front and if Brees can snap and get it away then they'll be less effective. It'd be a bigger win if the Saints had truly elite receivers. Panthers have a great run game to eat the clock but this isn't that sort of game and the Saints aren't interested in a slugfest. Any time you have AP and Newton on the field you have big play threats but they can be slowed and I think the Saints secondary will be too good on the day for the Panthers receivers.

Seahawks 10-13 Eagles
Tough football match to call. Lynch is a powerhouse but running up the gut is probably what the Eagles want. Casey and Fairley are beasts and David can roam behind to sweep up a slowed Lynch. Bryant and Harvin are tough assignments outside but the Eagles have good cover corners too. Equally the Eagles WRs are going to have a tough time against some physical defense, and the pass rush may eventually make it to Foles - but it is a strong O-line...
I've talked myself into it. The narrowest Eagles win in a fascinating affair. Seattle at home would have won this. And with Sherman they probably would have too.


Soddy's

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Bengals 23-17 Chargers

Close one this, Bengals I think have the superior talent to edge it, good gameplans from both

49ers 17-23 Packers

49ers can't handle Packers WR's and despite getting to Rodgers a lot, can't slow them down enough to win

Saints 28-21 Panthers

A good win for New Orleans who have gameplanned well, think they need better WR's to be serious contenders though. Would like to see Carolina run a lot of read option

Seahawks 21-21 Eagles

I genuinely cannot call this game

Olly's