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Post by Trebs Thu 01 May 2014, 10:10 am

First topic message reminder :

It's the European Parliament Elections on May 22nd, with UKIP hoping to gain the most seats after second place last time out, with Labour and Liberal Democrats looking to hold onto their seats.

But, does anyone care? Only one in three people voted in the last elections, but there seems to be more of a media interest, especially with the TV debates between Nigel Farage and Nick Clegg, which if you haven't seen are worth a watch. Could it be argued that by Labour and Conservatives not showing to the debates, that UKIP and LibDem will gain?

It seems that this year, there will be a higher turnout but will it be a significant amount? UKIP are certainly a more real opposition and will surely gain seats, with the opinion polls showing UKIP are likely to win.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 May 2014, 10:10 am

It's just his 'price of a pint of milk' moment.

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Post by Derbymanc Thu 22 May 2014, 10:57 am

Most of the MP's don't know or don't care, near enough everything is covered for them by expenses with little limits.

Absolutely ridiculous situation with their pay and expenses.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 22 May 2014, 11:27 am

Voted on the way to work this morning.......Was toying with Green but went Labour with gritted teeth......

Probably the only Labour vote in the box....

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 12:28 pm

That is me done too.

Went to vote with the wife who, after weeks of me going on about the EU told me that she had voted for the SNP Rolling Eyes 

Still, that is democracy in action.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 12:37 pm

Ah that's that done then.

Whistled "Rule Britannia" on the stroll to the polling station in the pouring rain, before voting for UKIP - it couldn't have felt more British if I tried.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 22 May 2014, 12:38 pm

Pouring with rain is good news for UKIP.......

Bad weather usually means trouble for the left.......As those voters generally are less inclined to take the stroll.......

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 12:43 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Pouring with rain is good news for UKIP.......

Bad weather usually means trouble for the left.......As those voters generally are less inclined to take the stroll.......

I thought you were going to say less inclined to take a wash hahaha

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 12:43 pm

Duty281 wrote:Ah that's that done then.

Whistled "Rule Britannia" on the stroll to the polling station in the pouring rain, before voting for UKIP - it couldn't have felt more British if I tried.


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But we don't rule ourselves anymore, let alone the waves Shocked 

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 22 May 2014, 12:44 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Pouring with rain is good news for UKIP.......

Bad weather usually means trouble for the left.......As those voters generally are less inclined to take the stroll.......

I thought you were going to say less inclined to take a wash hahaha

Are you trying to tell us something Mate ??

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 12:46 pm

skyeman wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Ah that's that done then.

Whistled "Rule Britannia" on the stroll to the polling station in the pouring rain, before voting for UKIP - it couldn't have felt more British if I tried.


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But we don't rule ourselves anymore, let alone the waves Shocked 

And we are slaves. Slaves to the European Union!

I should have just whistled "Football's Coming Home".

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 12:48 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Pouring with rain is good news for UKIP.......

Bad weather usually means trouble for the left.......As those voters generally are less inclined to take the stroll.......

I thought you were going to say less inclined to take a wash hahaha

Are you trying to tell us something Mate ??

Sometimes if it is raining in the morning I convince mysef I can have an extra 15 minutes sleep and skip the shower and just walk in the rain haha

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 22 May 2014, 12:49 pm

What happens If UKIP win the Euros with 27 % ??

Yes Is ahead of No in the polls anyway.........and Cameron has already said he'll campaign for Yes as will Miliband and Clegg....

Meaningless win for UKIP should it happen..........Only thing it will do is give them impetus in their quest for a seat at the debates in 2015....

Even then they will be squeezed at the GE when people are desperate not to have either Cameron or Miliband..

Think you are getting excited over very little Duty..

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 12:50 pm

Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Ah that's that done then.

Whistled "Rule Britannia" on the stroll to the polling station in the pouring rain, before voting for UKIP - it couldn't have felt more British if I tried.


 thumbsup 

But we don't rule ourselves anymore, let alone the waves Shocked 

And we are slaves. Slaves to the European Union!

I should have just whistled "Football's Coming Home".


Or George Michaels FREEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 12:58 pm

Meaningless? Milliband and Cameron are already showing the signs of how meaningful it is, and the results have not even appeared yet.

With the rest of the anti EU MEP's expected all over Europe, how on earth is it meaningless.


It will only grow until the referendum is given.


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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 12:58 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What happens If UKIP win the Euros with 27 % ??

Yes Is ahead of No in the polls anyway.........and Cameron has already said he'll campaign for Yes as will Miliband and Clegg....

Meaningless win for UKIP should it happen..........Only thing it will do is give them impetus in their quest for a seat at the debates in 2015....

Even then they will be squeezed at the GE when people are desperate not to have either Cameron or Miliband..

Think you are getting excited over very little Duty..

The last 2 elections UKIp have finished in the top 3 and the following year gained nothing in the GE. I see nothing changing next year.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 22 May 2014, 12:59 pm

What is your gut feeling about the result of the Independence vote ,Skye.......

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 1:00 pm

skyeman wrote:Meaningless? Milliband and Cameron are already showing the signs of how meaningful it is, and the results have not even appeared yet.

With the rest of the anti EU MEP's expected all over Europe, how on earth is it meaningless.

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 1:02 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What is your gut feeling about the result of the Independence vote ,Skye.......


Personally think it will be a NO, would not mind that too. But i do like to have been given the choice.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 1:03 pm

skyeman wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What is your gut feeling about the result of the Independence vote ,Skye.......


Personally think it will be a NO, would not mind that too. But i do like to have been given the choice.

Then why are you voting SNP at the GE who are campaigning against the referendum???

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Post by Derbymanc Thu 22 May 2014, 1:14 pm

You know he cant see you CS, bit like your youtube channel

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 1:21 pm

Derbymanc wrote:You know he cant see you CS, bit like your youtube channel

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Don't think he wants the Boxing page to hear his views Very Happy 

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 May 2014, 1:23 pm

Laugh 

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 1:33 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What happens If UKIP win the Euros with 27 % ??

Yes Is ahead of No in the polls anyway.........and Cameron has already said he'll campaign for Yes as will Miliband and Clegg....

Meaningless win for UKIP should it happen..........Only thing it will do is give them impetus in their quest for a seat at the debates in 2015....

Even then they will be squeezed at the GE when people are desperate not to have either Cameron or Miliband..

Think you are getting excited over very little Duty..

Meaningless? Cameron is already preparing in how to deal with UKIP's victory, as such a win will give greater impetus to the Eurosceptic back-benchers on his party.

Equally, if UKIP do win, it will give them greater momentum ahead of the Newark by-election which may give them their first MP.

Small steps, that's the key. And winning these elections will be a fantastic start, before they can start planning to win a few seats in 2015. That's all the aim will be.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 22 May 2014, 1:34 pm

Cameron polls way ahead of his party.........and the Euro sceptics know it..

UKIP polled 3% at the last Newark election...They have no chance..

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 1:39 pm

Who thinks Clegg will be gone before the GE ? Would anyone even want the job for a dead and buried Lib Dem.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 22 May 2014, 1:42 pm

He won't go before the Election..........Party full of gutless lightweights.....

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Post by Derbymanc Thu 22 May 2014, 2:18 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/22/european-elections-parliament-immigration_n_5371219.html

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 May 2014, 2:23 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/21/should-you-vote-ukip-flowchart_n_5363204.html

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Post by Derbymanc Thu 22 May 2014, 2:29 pm

laughing 

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 2:34 pm

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/7BD74A977A1080421146199048192_2c2251f6888.0.3.8027486095367531262.mp4?versionId=WyZj.z78dYukTxHmIbgZOVNEoydl43FN

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 2:40 pm

Too many for Cleggy Laugh 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 3:20 pm

Derbymanc wrote:You know he cant see you CS, bit like your youtube channel

I just find it funny that someone can complain so much that they are not being given a referendum and then they vote for a party (SNP) that wont offer a referendum  Laugh 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 3:24 pm

skyeman wrote:Well, here at last.

Britain's most pro EU party set to be finished as a credible party.

Britain's only realistic Anti EU party set to win a landslide.

Milliband and Cameron set to take note!

They had better Crying or Very sad

britain's most pro eu pro eu party is the SNP who you vote for

Britain's only realistic anti-eu party is probably the Conservatives who have promised a referendum if they win the 2015 GE.

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Post by Derbymanc Thu 22 May 2014, 3:26 pm

yaaaaaaaaaaawn  thumbsdown 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 3:32 pm

Derbymanc wrote:yaaaaaaaaaaawn  thumbsdown 

You may find it boring but I find it boring listening to Skye's countless comments that he wants a referendum on the EU and then he goes and votes for the SNP who are refusing a referendum.


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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 3:35 pm

skyeman wrote:If UKIP  do gain the most seats at the EU table, the UK electorate will have seen through the manipulation by the mainstream media and will have seen these elections for what they really are. A vote on whether or not Britain should stay in the corrupt, undemocratic and elitist EU.

The media have been crap throughout and stirred the pot unnecessarily. Farage is right, it has backfired.

Pillocks.

So is this an admission that UKIP are a 1 policy party? You are basically saying peole are only voting for UKIp if they want a referendum highlighting that they are not voting for UKIP for any other political reason???

I agee with your statement that UKIP are a 1 policy party and that is why they will have very little success at the GE next year.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 4:03 pm

How are UKIP a one policy party?

I've just looked at their website, and they have plenty more.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 4:12 pm

Some of UKIP's policies:

Spoiler:

Oh yes, I forgot they were a one-policy party.  picard

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 4:23 pm

Duty281 wrote:Some of UKIP's policies:

Spoiler:

Oh yes, I forgot they were a one-policy party.  picard

because everyone who votes for ukip is doing it because they want gp surgeries open in the evening or to have locally elected county healthboards......

If you don't believe UkIP are a 1 policy party then you can't proclaim that the election success fo UKIP in the european elections is because people want a referendum on Europe, maybe people are voting for UKIP because they want new grammar schools and not because they want a referendum on the EU?

In my view and in SKye's view Laugh  Ukip are a 1 policy party. Yes they may advertise other policies such as no votes for prisoners (which is directly linked to the EU which is their only policy) but the issue they have solely been camaigning on for the last decade or so is for the UK to leave the EU hence why they are a 1 policy party.

It is not just me who views them as a 1 policy party but also the electorate who refuse to vote for them at the GEs because they don't believe UKIP have any other policies apart from the EU and at the GE people vote for the party that represents their views the most about issues that affect them the most.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 4:28 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Unfortunately they are at the top and UKIP the bottom of the sheet..Political betting think it could cost thousands of votes...Farage complained to the Electoral commission...

Never mind hey..

When I voted the EU voting card was folded into like 6 pieces that you unravelled and UKIP were right at the bottom. There were a lot of parties that you saw first such as Conservative and no2eu and the English democrats who people might end up voting for instead of UKIP because of the way the voting card was made.


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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 4:28 pm

I think people are voting for UKIP for their one central policy at these elections, it still doesn't mean they don't have other policies.

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 4:32 pm

Maybe it should be called a one goal party. Much like LibLabCon.

One party though wants to save the UK. The other three with their agendas are doing their best at destroying it.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 4:32 pm

Duty281 wrote:I think people are voting for UKIP for their one central policy at these elections, it still doesn't mean they don't have other policies.

Not just me but the electorate knows UKIP only has 1 policy and that is the EU and that is the reason why they have no success at GEs because people don't care that much to spend their democratic vote at a GE on a party who solely campaigns about the EU.

Perhaps UKIP might need to change their tactics if they don't do that well at the GE next year, perhaps focus on some of their other policies so people might feel inclined to vote for them.

On a side note why didn't you vote for the ED they seem to suit your political views the most?

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 4:37 pm

Because the English Democrats actively encourage former BNP members to join their party, and I believe that they're linked to Britain First.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 4:42 pm

Duty281 wrote:Because the English Democrats actively encourage former BNP members to join their party, and I believe that they're linked to Britain First.

I didn't know that, all I know is that they are the only party who want the Uk to leave the EU and the only party that wants English independence from the UK.

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 4:51 pm

Can anyone name the six Labour candidates who were BNP members?

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Post by Derbymanc Thu 22 May 2014, 5:07 pm

CS you've been shown countless times that UKIP have more than 1 policy, yet as it doesn't fit your youtube millionaire views you just ignore that FACT.

If you read through this link it will explain it to you all, just ignore the plum that can't understand the simple bits

https://www.606v2.com/t53498-mep-elections

No need to thank me  OK 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 22 May 2014, 5:18 pm

Derbymanc wrote:CS you've been shown countless times that UKIP have more than 1 policy, yet as it doesn't fit your youtube millionaire views you just ignore that FACT.

If you read through this link it will explain it to you all, just ignore the plum that can't understand the simple bits

https://www.606v2.com/t53498-mep-elections  

No need to thank me  OK 

I'm not denying that they advocate that they have more than 1 policy but if you take a deeper look they really do only have 1 policy and that is the EU. The fact that they only ever campaign over issues surrounding the EU and highlights to me and the rest of the electorate that they are a 1 policy party.



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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 May 2014, 5:24 pm

They're only focusing on their central policy during these elections because it's only the European elections.

Doubtless, they will focus on a much broader scope during the next General Election; which will be their first general election in which they will be partaking seriously.

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Post by skyeman Thu 22 May 2014, 5:30 pm

Derbymanc wrote:CS you've been shown countless times that UKIP have more than 1 policy, yet as it doesn't fit your youtube millionaire views you just ignore that FACT.

If you read through this link it will explain it to you all, just ignore the plum that can't understand the simple bits

https://www.606v2.com/t53498-mep-elections  

No need to thank me  OK 


I like your style....

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