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GSC wrote:Think it was more Everton rejecting United if memory serves Viva

And Everton rejecting Bayern's offer too.

But hey, Viva never let's facts get in the way of his arguments

sodhat wrote:Who wants to play mafia this afternoon?

Me
You

Afro wrote:

sodhat wrote:Who wants to play mafia this afternoon?

Me
You

I like where this is going

I do agree though that Shaw will likely be our 2016 full back. He looks like he will be right out of the top drawer.

His positioning is dodgy atm and he is another of the modern day type full back who is more attacking than defending, but give him the experience to develop his positioning and you can see him being one of the best in the world.

Should we be playing him at the world cup now to give him that experience for 2016 and onwards?

sodhat wrote:

Afro wrote:

sodhat wrote:Who wants to play mafia this afternoon?

Me
You

I like where this is going

We can include Azzy whether he is busy or not, as he'll get killed in the first round anyway.
We also need to include Viva, so he can send 8 sheep answers to the runner for his nighttime vote

I'll play, just don't kill me!

Afro wrote:I do agree though that Shaw will likely be our 2016 full back. He looks like he will be right out of the top drawer.

His positioning is dodgy atm and he is another of the modern day type full back who is more attacking than defending, but give him the experience to develop his positioning and you can see him being one of the best in the world.

Should we be playing him at the world cup now to give him that experience for 2016 and onwards?

Could Shaw be another Bale type that ends up as a forward in the end though?

I don't see it, I actually think he's good defensively. Better to mould him into a Philipp Lahm-style LB, good defensively, great offensively, than risk creating some sort of Marcelo-hybrid who's not quite good enough at either end.

Shaw-Sterling can be our left wing for the next 10-15 years.

Bale had the power and the shot to make it further forward. Shaw has the pace, which enables him to get forward and still get back, but not the other two.

Shaw is good defensively. He is a great tackler and positioning is something that can be easily coached, so everything is there for him to be a great LB.

BTW my money is on United ending up with Daley Blind, because of the Dutych conneciton, and he'll become another Phil Jones, suffering for his versatility

Blind is fantastic, would be a great buy. £6m + Buttner perchance?

He is fantastic, but can you see him ending up being shifted about from LB to CB to DM, because he can play well in all three

Tbh Van Gaal is no Moyes. He'll stick players where they're best suited. Jones at CB, Kagawa in the hole and Cleverley to Arsenal.

He already moves him about for Holland

What do you lot make of LVG at United how he'll do?

He won't have as good a squad at United, he can't afford to leave weaknesses like Evra and Smalling for exploitation.

If you took every transfer rumour on face value, he'd have exactly the same squad as he does for Holland.

I think he'll do well, but again it'll take time. He isn't going to turn them back into title winners in his first season

Realistically no United fan should be expecting to win the title, challenging for the title is still too much. I'd be happy with a top 4 finish.

Should be a great season. You realistically have 7 teams with legitimate ambitions for the top 4

Valdivia and John stones to take the league by storm #PAOKYPAOKYTIME

What do you want for John Stones?

Afro wrote:What do you want for John Stones?

Anal

And a lot of monies

If you wanna make an offer head over to the #PAOKY page

Beer, pizza, chips, mates

Gone full out for the England game tonight

How much did the mates cost?

sodhat wrote:Seems like we're preparing ourselves to unleash a wave of hype at this new generation come 2016...

Maybe throttle back a touch.

Is this the Golden Generation v2?

sodhat wrote:How much did the mates cost?

Lolz

Enjoy your hockey country deserter

 

I bet I get spoiled too.

I will fight someone if they flagrantly spoil the result mid-match.

Just don't go for gods sake!!

Dolph ditched his footie teams Cup final to watch west ham lose to Liverpool in the fa cup

WHERE IS YOUR COMMITMENT DAMMIT

That's different though, England have a World Cup every four years.

West Ham have a cup final every four decades.

Hiya guys

Have I missed anything? I've been really busy the last couple of days that's all. I know I've got 1 transfer left to recap from this week and 1 to confirm. Will all be done before the England game.

There is not one single player who cause more pain to me when I watch football than Luis Suarez

Constantly getting bummed by that buck toothed naughty naughty boy

Nobody played well. Should really be the end for a few in the squad.

Imagine Gerrard will jump before hes pushed now

Only one I thought did alright was Rooney/Henderson/Cahill

Sturridge was awful, just kept flopping to the ground, Gerrard was a shadow of himself, don't get me started on glen johnson

Tbh I hardly noticed Henderson played.

At least I made up for my losses with a Uruguay win

Some of the football board seem to be revelling in our demise (Owen/John)

I don't understand how people can be so negative!

It would ruin the best thing in sport to just sit around putting your own team down.

A few of these could do with supporting Forest for 22 years

At 1-1 I thought wed do it...

Inexperience told in the end, too many basic errors in defence and weren't clinical enough in attack. A fairly tough combo to overcome

Still future is bright, and at least we're not afraid to go for it and have shown when we play well we're good, just need better players innit

Godin not being sent off was the nail in our coffin. Terrible decision. Didn't Alex Song get sent off for less than that yesterday?

Johnson sickens me. CLOSE YOUR MAN DOWN GLEN, IT'S YOUR JOB!!!!!

Olly wrote:At 1-1 I thought wed do it...

Inexperience told in the end, too many basic errors in defence and weren't clinical enough in attack. A fairly tough combo to overcome

Still future is bright, and at least we're not afraid to go for it and have shown when we play well we're good, just need better players innit

Our most experienced player cocked it up for us

GSC wrote:Tbh I hardly noticed Henderson played.

Henderson and Gerrard try playing same role, need one to sit one to burst and neither burst, need Wilshire next game

Michael Carrick

Damn Luis Suarez damn him damn him damn him

I'm fed of seeing his goddamn celebration

At the end of the day, we're more potential than ability. Rooneys probably the only one in the squad with tournament experience, and somewhere around his prime.

Gerrard will retire, he looks out of legs at the Euros, even moreso here. Costa Rica his last hurrah you suspect.

The balance of the side is off tbh. We play with attacking FBs yet play 2 men in midfield to cover gaps, 1 of whom can't really run anymore. Rooney was decent yesterday, but if we play this system he has to live up to his World class reputation and lead from the front. Suarez did on one knee for Uruguay.

Suspect Shaw, Barkley and Jones will come in for Baines, Jagielka and Welbeck for the Costa Rica game. Going forward I'd like:

Jagielka was poor last night. He doesn't have the quality on the ball for the international game for me, and there are times he is off the pace.

He can be immense for Everton, but he just isn't up to the level required for England.

Jones for Jagielka for me.

Mind you, I'm not resigned to us being out. Italy beating Costa Rica and Uruguay - at the start of the tournament you'd have had them doing that. If they beat Costa Rica by 2, then we need to win by 2 to go through on GD.

Keep the faith!!!

GSC wrote:At the end of the day, we're more potential than ability. Rooneys probably the only one in the squad with tournament experience, and somewhere around his prime.

Gerrard will retire, he looks out of legs at the Euros, even moreso here. Costa Rica his last hurrah you suspect.

The balance of the side is off tbh. We play with attacking FBs yet play 2 men in midfield to cover gaps, 1 of whom can't really run anymore. Rooney was decent yesterday, but if we play this system he has to live up to his World class reputation and lead from the front. Suarez did on one knee for Uruguay.

Suspect Shaw, Barkley and Jones will come in for Baines, Jagielka and Welbeck for the Costa Rica game. Going forward I'd like:

Sturridge

Oxlaide--------Sterling

Barkley

Wilshere-Henderson

Shaw-?-Cahill-Johnson

Hart

The last CB spot is the big unknown for me. Jagielka isn't international class imo, but Jones isn't a good enough CB yet, and Smalling just isn't particularly good.

John Stones?

Maybe, see how he starts the season

I still maintain that we have been too aggressive this tournament. Yes, it's nice to see, but it's too much. I think 4-3-3 which we used in qualifying would have served us better in the world cup.

Also, if Jagielka is to be dropped, I'd prefer Smalling over Jones. He doesn't have as much natural ability, but is a more intelligent player who reads the game better and has had a far better season for United.

I'd always always rather a team I support be too aggressive and attacking than defensive myself

It's nicer to watch but it doesn't yield results. I'd take England winning every game 1-0 in boring matches and winning the world cup/being successful than this.