Haye comeback plans

by rycoys Mon 30 Jun 2014, 10:23 pm

Wants 2 bouts this year. Accepts they may have to be fairly low key (by hes standards) wants to earn he's ranking and unifye in 2/3 years. Sounds too good to be true! If he does carry out these plans it will go against what he's done he's whole career. Is this haye reliseing he will have to work and does have the desire or is there more to this? Shocked

by Rowley Mon 30 Jun 2014, 10:38 pm

Haye is many things, but stupid is not one of them. Think he has the self awareness to realise after the Wlad fight and the Fury farce his reputation and credibility is absolutely in the crapper. As such something approaching humility and a more respectful approach to the sport is required if he is to claw his way back into the affections of fans.

If he is going to shut up a bit, get rid of the sense of entitlement he seems to carry with him and is willing to actually fight his way back into contention most will be happy, as these were the root causes of much of what annoyed those of us not particularly sold on him.

Personally I believe Haye is saying what he believes people want to hear, suspect he will revert to type as soon as he has managed to persuade Sky he is worth backing again and we will see him back on the maximum money, minimum risk route he has followed thus far at heavy. Hope I am wrong, but cynicism has to be the default position when it comes to Haye.

by catchweight Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:02 am

I think he has done some soul searching during his rehabilitation. It sounds like he has re discovered his passion for the sport. The thrill of competing, the joy of getting his hand raised, the childhood dreams of titles. Glory, not money. Respect, not fame. No more reality TV or celebrity lifestyle. Only the most focussed David Haye ever, on a one man mission to bring heavyweight boxing back from the brink with raw excitement and bollix tingling knockouts.

by Champagne_Socialist Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:28 am

by the time he comes back he would have been out the ring for approaching 2 1/2 years. Not sure he would cut it at the top level anymore after his ring rust and injuries.

by TopHat24/7 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 11:18 am

Couple of warm up fights will clear the ring-rust and he'll still be the same age or younger than most of the big names out there in the division.

Those two fights will tell us whether his shoulder surgery has had any impact on his explosiveness which he relies so heavily on, if not the 2.5 yrs isn't that relevant given a) the weakness of his division; and b) the fact he's a gym rat that's always in good shape and training regularly anyway.

by Guest Tue 01 Jul 2014, 11:37 am

Rowley wrote:Haye is many things, but stupid is not one of them. Think he has the self awareness to realise after the Wlad fight and the Fury farce his reputation and credibility is absolutely in the crapper. As such something approaching humility and a more respectful approach to the sport is required if he is to claw his way back into the affections of fans.

If he is going to shut up a bit, get rid of the sense of entitlement he seems to carry with him and is willing to actually fight his way back into contention most will be happy, as these were the root causes of much of what annoyed those of us not particularly sold on him.

Personally I believe Haye is saying what he believes people want to hear, suspect he will revert to type as soon as he has managed to persuade Sky he is worth backing again and we will see him back on the maximum money, minimum risk route he has followed thus far at heavy. Hope I am wrong, but cynicism has to be the default position when it comes to Haye.

Isn't cynicism your default position anyway ROWLEY?

by Rowley Tue 01 Jul 2014, 11:39 am

I have been a boxing fan for over 20 years Dave, anyone who can do that and not be cynical is a better man than me.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:31 pm

Think he wants to stay retired...................Screwed Fury over and the fans and bottled Wlad..

Go and be the next De niro like you said.............You don't want to be any ordinary actor who spends years learning his craft after all..

Sling it..

by **superflyweight** Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:37 pm

Likely to cause Strongy to have an aneurism so can only be a good thing.

by Strongback Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:47 pm

superflyweight wrote:Likely to cause Strongy to have an aneurism so can only be a good thing.

Everybody now knows Haye is a ballbag so I have moved on to greener pastures.

by **superflyweight** Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:50 pm

Rolf Harris?

by Strongback Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:54 pm

superflyweight wrote:Rolf Harris?

Beggars belief that himself and Saville were in it together.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:02 pm

Strongback wrote:
superflyweight wrote:Rolf Harris?

Beggars belief that himself and Saville were in it together.

I'm sure you can find a way to fit Eddie into a trio..

by Strongback Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:07 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
superflyweight wrote:Rolf Harris?

Beggars belief that himself and Saville were in it together.

I'm sure you can find a way to fit Eddie into a trio..

You have a depraved mind.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:09 pm

Only at weekends..

by hazharrison Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:26 pm

Haye's reputation is at an all-time low. Why would a top heavyweight even sign to fight him considering there's a very real likelihood Haye won't even make it to the weigh-in? Maybe he should look at all this bulking up he does and the effect it has on his body. He's got a worse sick record than Darren Anderton.

I'll never get over that non-effort he put in against Wlad. After all of the barking he did over the preceding years. What a pudding.

by Dipper Brown Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:53 pm

The only fight for Haye was Vitali. Hope he concentrates on other things

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 2:23 pm

Only good thing about his comeback Is that we might get the chance to see him face down on the deck...

by Guest Tue 01 Jul 2014, 2:25 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Only good thing about his comeback Is that we might get the chance to see him face down on the deck...

You hoping he'll be celebrating at the Oyster afterwards big boy?

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 2:28 pm

We only have people with balls in there..

by Guest Tue 01 Jul 2014, 2:31 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:We only have people with balls in my mouth..

Fixed that for ya

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 2:37 pm

You're aiming an awful lot of gay stuff at me lately.....

PM me... If you have a secret you don't want to share with the rest of 606..

My mind is as open as the rest of my body..

by Guest Tue 01 Jul 2014, 4:08 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You're aiming an awful lot of gay stuff at me lately.....JUST CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT TRUSSY

PM me... If you have a secret you don't want to share with the rest of 606...I LISTEN TO MUSIC THAT ISN'T JUST HEAVY METAL

My mind is as open as the rest of my body..SHAME IS ISN'T AS BIG

by Adam D Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:09 am

I really hope that somehow, fury beats chis the grabs himself a belt. He the. Signs a Haye fight with all the terms stacked in his favour and pulls out of the fight with an I growing toenail leaving Haye high and dry.

Say what you want about fury, he was wanting to fight Haye at the time whereas Haye wasn't.

I hope karma comes back and knocks the hayemaker out. And I hope that karma is Tyson fury shaped.

by **88Chris05** Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:26 am

Aye, I'd be right behind Fury if that fight ever came to pass as well, Adam.

Was never really a big fan of Haye in particular but acknowledged that he did the business in very impressive fashion at Cruiser and at least offered a little bit of something different at Heavy, too. But eventually his histrionics, never-ending desire to have his ego stroked and insistence that the Heavyweight world revolved around him at all times just made me tire of him.

Like Rowley, I suspect that once he's got his foot in the door at Sky we'll be subjected to the old torrent of publicity stunts, proclamations about how Wlad is running scared of a rematch and the obligatory postponement / cancellation of fights. No doubting the guy's talent but I think he's had his time and opportunities, and I can't say I'd be too bothered if he fell at the first hurdle when he makes his return later this year.

by Guest Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:30 am

When people think/hope/pray Tyson Fury is the future, you know someone dropped a sh!t load of acid in the water supply. There isn't a single scenario I can think of where I'd be hoping and praying for Fury to be a success.

by hazharrison Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:34 am

He's at least an exciting heavyweight to watch Dave. That's mainly due to the fact he's vulnerable and undisciplined but he's rarely dull and he comes to fight.

Next to the Eastern European dullards we've had to put up with he seems positively charismatic, too.

by **88Chris05** Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:38 am

Reading only what you want to read when it comes to Fury again, Mr. 667!

A few people can want him to win against Haye without automatically thinking or praying that he is the future.

by Hammersmith harrier Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:39 am

Why on earth would anyone back that despicable piece of talentless garbage over Haye.

by Rowley Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:45 am

88Chris05 wrote:Reading only what you want to read when it comes to Fury again, Mr. 667!

A few people can want him to win against Haye without automatically thinking or praying that he is the future.

About covers it for me Chris. Were they to fight I think Fury has sod all chance but I would be praying to every diety I don't believe in that Fury could knock Haye cold. I most assuredly do not think Fury is the future.

by Guest Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:47 am

88Chris05 wrote:Reading only what you want to read when it comes to Fury again, Mr. 667!

A few people can want him to win against Haye without automatically thinking or praying that he is the future.

Reading only what you want when it comes to reading Mr 667, eh Chris? I wasn't referring to you per se, you're generally more astute than the great unwashed, however, I'll put this blip down to it being a bit warm out

by hazharrison Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:48 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Why on earth would anyone back that despicable piece of talentless garbage over Haye.

Why do you feel Fury is despicable? I can guarantee that any dirt you throw at Fury (homophobia, gutter talk etc.) can just as easily be thrown at Haye.

I'd root for Fury over Haye.

by Eyetoldyouso Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:49 am

harrier

Because Fury is a big lump with no airs and graces and a bag full of human weaknesses. Whilst Haye is a conniving, sleazy bighead who blew his big chance when he finally got in the ring with Wlad and waved his chicken flag for 12 rounds.

by catchweight Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:53 am

Haye is hugely overrated for me. Talks a good game, exudes a lot of confidence. But hardly anything in his performances that deliver on his supposed talent or excitement. He was useless against Valuev and Klitschko and has spent his career in two p1ss poor divisions facing has beens and never weres. Having said that, Fury is worse. But at least he delivers entertainment and isnt a rip off artist like Haye.

by Guest Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:54 am

hazharrison wrote:He's at least an exciting heavyweight to watch Dave. That's mainly due to the fact he's vulnerable and undisciplined but he's rarely dull and he comes to fight.

Next to the Eastern European dullards we've had to put up with he seems positively charismatic, too.

Sorry Haz but the HW Champ should really be above getting bundled over by fat CW or wobbled by doorman dragged over at the 11th hour. I simply don't feel Fury is in any way fit to hold the most prestigious title in sport. Before panties get in a bunch, I don't think Haye's endeared himself to the masses and covered himself in glory with his most recent antics either and whilst I'm still a fan, there's an element of Luis Suarez about him, in that whilst I desperately want him just to get on with the job, there's a nagging doubt that he'll go and do something ridiculous to give us all another reason to discredit him

by JabMachineMK2 Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:54 am

Imagine if he signed with Hearn

I'm pretty sure Strongback would go into meltdown.

by Guest Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:00 am

catchweight wrote:Haye is hugely overrated for me. Talks a good game, exudes a lot of confidence. But hardly anything in his performances that deliver on his supposed talent or excitement. He was useless against Valuev and Klitschko and has spent his career in two p1ss poor divisions facing has beens and never weres. Having said that, Fury is worse. But at least he delivers entertainment and isnt a rip off artist like Haye.

Err Haye beat Valuev so can't have been that bad. He fought a smart tactical fight and you've only yourself to blame if you thought he was ever going to anything other than hit and run against a man with a 12 inch height and seven stone weight advantage. The Wlad fight was a stinker but Haye made Wlad fight better than he's had to for years. As for Haye spending his career in pi$$ poor divisions facing has-beens and never weres, surely that accusation can also be leveled at Wlad or did you expect Haye to go down and fight at SM for a bit?

Sad state of affairs when you think Fury is entertaining. He's the boxing equivalent of watching "Britain's Got Talent" Despite everything the title says, it's abundantly clear that there's no talent on show yet idiots still shovel that sh!t down their throats and ask for seconds.

by Hammersmith harrier Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:01 am

hazharrison wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Why on earth would anyone back that despicable piece of talentless garbage over Haye.

Why do you feel Fury is despicable? I can guarantee that any dirt you throw at Fury (homophobia, gutter talk etc.) can just as easily be thrown at Haye.

I'd root for Fury over Haye.

Let's just say my dislike for Fury is on a more personal level.

by hazharrison Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:06 am

DAVE667 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:He's at least an exciting heavyweight to watch Dave. That's mainly due to the fact he's vulnerable and undisciplined but he's rarely dull and he comes to fight.

Next to the Eastern European dullards we've had to put up with he seems positively charismatic, too.
Sorry Haz but the HW Champ should really be above getting bundled over by fat CW or wobbled by doorman dragged over at the 11th hour. I simply don't feel Fury is in any way fit to hold the most prestigious title in sport. Before panties get in a bunch, I don't think Haye's endeared himself to the masses and covered himself in glory with his most recent antics either and whilst I'm still a fan, there's an element of Luis Suarez about him, in that whilst I desperately want him just to get on with the job, there's a nagging doubt that he'll go and do something ridiculous to give us all another reason to discredit him

I don't imagine he'll win it but if could tone down the theatrics he'd be at least someone we could get behind. He's honest, gets stuck in and will give it a go. I don't imagine he'd produce a non-effort afainst Wladimir such as the one Haye managed for instance.

by Hammersmith harrier Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:08 am

Fury winning any sort of title would truly be the death of heavyweight boxing, were he to beat Haye it would be the death of british boxing.

by Rowley Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:15 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Fury winning any sort of title would truly be the death of heavyweight boxing, were he to beat Haye it would be the death of british boxing.

Over dramatic much?

by catchweight Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:21 am

DAVE667 wrote:
catchweight wrote:Haye is hugely overrated for me. Talks a good game, exudes a lot of confidence. But hardly anything in his performances that deliver on his supposed talent or excitement. He was useless against Valuev and Klitschko and has spent his career in two p1ss poor divisions facing has beens and never weres. Having said that, Fury is worse. But at least he delivers entertainment and isnt a rip off artist like Haye.
Err Haye beat Valuev so can't have been that bad. He fought a smart tactical fight and you've only yourself to blame if you thought he was ever going to anything other than hit and run against a man with a 12 inch height and seven stone weight advantage. The Wlad fight was a stinker but Haye made Wlad fight better than he's had to for years. As for Haye spending his career in pi$$ poor divisions facing has-beens and never weres, surely that accusation can also be leveled at Wlad or did you expect Haye to go down and fight at SM for a bit?

Sad state of affairs when you think Fury is entertaining. He's the boxing equivalent of watching "Britain's Got Talent" Despite everything the title says, it's abundantly clear that there's no talent on show yet idiots still shovel that sh!t down their throats and ask for seconds.

He was crap against Valuev for a heavyweight thats supposedly so talented. A decrepid Holyfield put in as good a shift without running away and throwing 5 punches a round.

Haye put together the single biggest rip off set of ppv stinkers in the history of the sport.

Fury is far more entertaining.

by hazharrison Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:24 am

DAVE667 wrote:
catchweight wrote:Haye is hugely overrated for me. Talks a good game, exudes a lot of confidence. But hardly anything in his performances that deliver on his supposed talent or excitement. He was useless against Valuev and Klitschko and has spent his career in two p1ss poor divisions facing has beens and never weres. Having said that, Fury is worse. But at least he delivers entertainment and isnt a rip off artist like Haye.
Err Haye beat Valuev so can't have been that bad. He fought a smart tactical fight and you've only yourself to blame if you thought he was ever going to anything other than hit and run against a man with a 12 inch height and seven stone weight advantage. The Wlad fight was a stinker but Haye made Wlad fight better than he's had to for years. As for Haye spending his career in pi$$ poor divisions facing has-beens and never weres, surely that accusation can also be leveled at Wlad or did you expect Haye to go down and fight at SM for a bit?

Sad state of affairs when you think Fury is entertaining. He's the boxing equivalent of watching "Britain's Got Talent" Despite everything the title says, it's abundantly clear that there's no talent on show yet idiots still shovel that sh!t down their throats and ask for seconds.

Haye has played fans and the media like a fiddle. Despite his assertions that he was "the saviour of the division" he has stuggled with the big men (despite his almost cartoonish pumped up frame).

He promised to destroy Valuev (a guy the fossil of Evander Holyfield managed to outmaneuver) and Wladimir yet boxed so timidly that both bouts became almost unwatchable. And as for this “David & Goliath” theme he sold the fight on – Haye was no smaller than Holyfield or Ruiz (both of whom were unlucky not to have taken a decision over the big lug – one of the poorest titlists in division history).

The Audley farce very nearly torpedoed Sky's boxing coverage altogether while his constant sick notes have repeatedly cost fans money. Yet through it all, he continues to pimp himself like Paris Hilton. To me, Haye represents everything that’s wrong with the modern sport.

Give me Fury – as limited as he is – over Haye’s nonsense all day every day.

by hazharrison Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:25 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Fury winning any sort of title would truly be the death of heavyweight boxing, were he to beat Haye it would be the death of british boxing.

What absolute twaddle. Did he stand next to you at a urinal or something?

by Guest Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:41 am

hazharrison wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
catchweight wrote:Haye is hugely overrated for me. Talks a good game, exudes a lot of confidence. But hardly anything in his performances that deliver on his supposed talent or excitement. He was useless against Valuev and Klitschko and has spent his career in two p1ss poor divisions facing has beens and never weres. Having said that, Fury is worse. But at least he delivers entertainment and isnt a rip off artist like Haye.
Err Haye beat Valuev so can't have been that bad. He fought a smart tactical fight and you've only yourself to blame if you thought he was ever going to anything other than hit and run against a man with a 12 inch height and seven stone weight advantage. The Wlad fight was a stinker but Haye made Wlad fight better than he's had to for years. As for Haye spending his career in pi$$ poor divisions facing has-beens and never weres, surely that accusation can also be leveled at Wlad or did you expect Haye to go down and fight at SM for a bit?

Sad state of affairs when you think Fury is entertaining. He's the boxing equivalent of watching "Britain's Got Talent" Despite everything the title says, it's abundantly clear that there's no talent on show yet idiots still shovel that sh!t down their throats and ask for seconds.

Haye has played fans and the media like a fiddle. Despite his assertions that he was "the saviour of the division" he has stuggled with the big men (despite his almost cartoonish pumped up frame). WELL, IF PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY INTO THE HYPE AND SPEND THEIR MONEY DESPITE SMRT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF TELLING THEM THEY'RE BEING RIPPED OFF THEN THEY'VE NO-ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES. STILL, NICE OF YOU TO BE OFFENDED ON THEIR BEHALF THOUGH

He promised to destroy Valuev (a guy the fossil of Evander Holyfield managed to outmaneuver) and Wladimir yet boxed so timidly that both bouts became almost unwatchable. And as for this “David & Goliath” theme he sold the fight on – Haye was no smaller than Holyfield or Ruiz (both of whom were unlucky not to have taken a decision over the big lug – one of the poorest titlists in division history). AGAIN IF PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THE PRE-FIGHT HYPE THEN WHO IS TO BLAME?

The Audley farce very nearly torpedoed Sky's boxing coverage altogether while his constant sick notes have repeatedly cost fans money. Yet through it all, he continues to pimp himself like Paris Hilton. To me, Haye represents everything that’s wrong with the modern sport. HAYE TOLD EVERYONE THE FIGHT WOULD BE AS ONE-SIDED AS GANG R@PE,,WAS HE WRONG? BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS THIS....WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND AT SKY SOUGHT TO SANCTION THAT FIGHT OR DOES DAVID HAYE BOOK THE FIGHTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON PPV ALSO? THE PEOPLE AT SKY SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO REALISE IT WAS A MIS-MATCH OF EPIC PROPORTIONS BUT AGAIN, IF LIKE THE PAYING PUBLIC, THEY LACK THE NOUS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THEN I'M AFRAID THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT SOMEONE OTHER THAN DAVID HAYE TO BLAME. I SUPPOSE THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING OUTSIDE CAR SHOWROOMS BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT A FANCY SPORTS CAR BUT WEREN'T IMMEDIATELY BESIEGED WITH BUSTY BIKINI CLAD WOMEN BEGGING TO BE FILLED WITH THEIR SEED DESPITE WHAT THE ADVERT ON TV TOLD THEM.

Give me Fury – as limited as he is – over Haye’s nonsense all day every day. YOU'RE WELCOME TO HIM

by Qoxiivi Wed 02 Jul 2014, 11:57 am

I don't know about all this, but he did walk past me on Monday lunchtime when I was having a drink outside a pub in Vauxhall. I pointed him out but no one else I was with really cared that much about boxing... or what I say generally, probably. Still, I enjoyed my burger and Sagres, so I was happy.

by hazharrison Wed 02 Jul 2014, 12:14 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
catchweight wrote:Haye is hugely overrated for me. Talks a good game, exudes a lot of confidence. But hardly anything in his performances that deliver on his supposed talent or excitement. He was useless against Valuev and Klitschko and has spent his career in two p1ss poor divisions facing has beens and never weres. Having said that, Fury is worse. But at least he delivers entertainment and isnt a rip off artist like Haye.
Err Haye beat Valuev so can't have been that bad. He fought a smart tactical fight and you've only yourself to blame if you thought he was ever going to anything other than hit and run against a man with a 12 inch height and seven stone weight advantage. The Wlad fight was a stinker but Haye made Wlad fight better than he's had to for years. As for Haye spending his career in pi$$ poor divisions facing has-beens and never weres, surely that accusation can also be leveled at Wlad or did you expect Haye to go down and fight at SM for a bit?

Sad state of affairs when you think Fury is entertaining. He's the boxing equivalent of watching "Britain's Got Talent" Despite everything the title says, it's abundantly clear that there's no talent on show yet idiots still shovel that sh!t down their throats and ask for seconds.

Haye has played fans and the media like a fiddle. Despite his assertions that he was "the saviour of the division" he has stuggled with the big men (despite his almost cartoonish pumped up frame). WELL, IF PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY INTO THE HYPE AND SPEND THEIR MONEY DESPITE SMRT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF TELLING THEM THEY'RE BEING RIPPED OFF THEN THEY'VE NO-ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES. STILL, NICE OF YOU TO BE OFFENDED ON THEIR BEHALF THOUGH

He promised to destroy Valuev (a guy the fossil of Evander Holyfield managed to outmaneuver) and Wladimir yet boxed so timidly that both bouts became almost unwatchable. And as for this “David & Goliath” theme he sold the fight on – Haye was no smaller than Holyfield or Ruiz (both of whom were unlucky not to have taken a decision over the big lug – one of the poorest titlists in division history). AGAIN IF PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THE PRE-FIGHT HYPE THEN WHO IS TO BLAME?

The Audley farce very nearly torpedoed Sky's boxing coverage altogether while his constant sick notes have repeatedly cost fans money. Yet through it all, he continues to pimp himself like Paris Hilton. To me, Haye represents everything that’s wrong with the modern sport. HAYE TOLD EVERYONE THE FIGHT WOULD BE AS ONE-SIDED AS GANG R@PE,,WAS HE WRONG? BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS THIS....WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND AT SKY SOUGHT TO SANCTION THAT FIGHT OR DOES DAVID HAYE BOOK THE FIGHTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON PPV ALSO? THE PEOPLE AT SKY SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO REALISE IT WAS A MIS-MATCH OF EPIC PROPORTIONS BUT AGAIN, IF LIKE THE PAYING PUBLIC, THEY LACK THE NOUS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THEN I'M AFRAID THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT SOMEONE OTHER THAN DAVID HAYE TO BLAME. I SUPPOSE THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING OUTSIDE CAR SHOWROOMS BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT A FANCY SPORTS CAR BUT WEREN'T IMMEDIATELY BESIEGED WITH BUSTY BIKINI CLAD WOMEN BEGGING TO BE FILLED WITH THEIR SEED DESPITE WHAT THE ADVERT ON TV TOLD THEM.

Give me Fury – as limited as he is – over Haye’s nonsense all day every day. YOU'RE WELCOME TO HIM

Yep. The fans are to blame for being stupid enough to even follow this guy. And hey, if they forked for travel and accommodation prior to both Fury fights and lost money then guess what? Screw them again. Idiots.Oh yeah, boxing will flourish with more fighters like Haye around.

Can't wait to see him knock out Seth Mitchell and then promise to MOIDER Klitschko.....only to face Lucas Browne on PPV. AND IF THE FANS BUY THAT GARBAGE THEN SCREW THEM AGAIN!!

Why would anyone even consider Fury over Haye?

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 02 Jul 2014, 12:43 pm

Must admit Haye's marketability has always bewildered me......

Harrison, Valuev and Klitty fights all stunk.........Ruiz had it's moments and Chisora is Chisora....Had more schoolings than I've had hot dinners...

Add in the fact he's hardly likeable and not too dislikeable to want to pay to see stuffed..

Thought he was out of order in his behaviour over the Fury fights....

Just wish he'd p**s off really..

by catchweight Wed 02 Jul 2014, 12:49 pm

Why would anyone be a Haye fan and feel the need to constantly defend him? There might have been a time when being a fan of Haye made sense. Before he spectacularly failed to deliver on years of talk and bluster and put together the worst string of ppvs in history while ripping off fans and almost making tv networks ditch boxing altogether. Now it just doesnt make sense. Its not Hayes fault apparently though. Its the rest of the world that are the problem.

by Guest Wed 02 Jul 2014, 1:19 pm

hazharrison wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
catchweight wrote:Haye is hugely overrated for me. Talks a good game, exudes a lot of confidence. But hardly anything in his performances that deliver on his supposed talent or excitement. He was useless against Valuev and Klitschko and has spent his career in two p1ss poor divisions facing has beens and never weres. Having said that, Fury is worse. But at least he delivers entertainment and isnt a rip off artist like Haye.
Err Haye beat Valuev so can't have been that bad. He fought a smart tactical fight and you've only yourself to blame if you thought he was ever going to anything other than hit and run against a man with a 12 inch height and seven stone weight advantage. The Wlad fight was a stinker but Haye made Wlad fight better than he's had to for years. As for Haye spending his career in pi$$ poor divisions facing has-beens and never weres, surely that accusation can also be leveled at Wlad or did you expect Haye to go down and fight at SM for a bit?

Sad state of affairs when you think Fury is entertaining. He's the boxing equivalent of watching "Britain's Got Talent" Despite everything the title says, it's abundantly clear that there's no talent on show yet idiots still shovel that sh!t down their throats and ask for seconds.

Haye has played fans and the media like a fiddle. Despite his assertions that he was "the saviour of the division" he has stuggled with the big men (despite his almost cartoonish pumped up frame). WELL, IF PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY INTO THE HYPE AND SPEND THEIR MONEY DESPITE SMRT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF TELLING THEM THEY'RE BEING RIPPED OFF THEN THEY'VE NO-ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES. STILL, NICE OF YOU TO BE OFFENDED ON THEIR BEHALF THOUGH

He promised to destroy Valuev (a guy the fossil of Evander Holyfield managed to outmaneuver) and Wladimir yet boxed so timidly that both bouts became almost unwatchable. And as for this “David & Goliath” theme he sold the fight on – Haye was no smaller than Holyfield or Ruiz (both of whom were unlucky not to have taken a decision over the big lug – one of the poorest titlists in division history). AGAIN IF PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THE PRE-FIGHT HYPE THEN WHO IS TO BLAME?

The Audley farce very nearly torpedoed Sky's boxing coverage altogether while his constant sick notes have repeatedly cost fans money. Yet through it all, he continues to pimp himself like Paris Hilton. To me, Haye represents everything that’s wrong with the modern sport. HAYE TOLD EVERYONE THE FIGHT WOULD BE AS ONE-SIDED AS GANG R@PE,,WAS HE WRONG? BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS THIS....WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND AT SKY SOUGHT TO SANCTION THAT FIGHT OR DOES DAVID HAYE BOOK THE FIGHTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON PPV ALSO? THE PEOPLE AT SKY SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO REALISE IT WAS A MIS-MATCH OF EPIC PROPORTIONS BUT AGAIN, IF LIKE THE PAYING PUBLIC, THEY LACK THE NOUS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THEN I'M AFRAID THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT SOMEONE OTHER THAN DAVID HAYE TO BLAME. I SUPPOSE THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING OUTSIDE CAR SHOWROOMS BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT A FANCY SPORTS CAR BUT WEREN'T IMMEDIATELY BESIEGED WITH BUSTY BIKINI CLAD WOMEN BEGGING TO BE FILLED WITH THEIR SEED DESPITE WHAT THE ADVERT ON TV TOLD THEM.

Give me Fury – as limited as he is – over Haye’s nonsense all day every day. YOU'RE WELCOME TO HIM

Yep. The fans are to blame for being stupid enough to even follow this guy. And hey, if they forked for travel and accommodation prior to both Fury fights and lost money then guess what? Screw them again. Idiots.Oh yeah, boxing will flourish with more fighters like Haye around.

Can't wait to see him knock out Seth Mitchell and then promise to MOIDER Klitschko.....only to face Lucas Browne on PPV. AND IF THE FANS BUY THAT GARBAGE THEN SCREW THEM AGAIN!!

Why would anyone even consider Fury over Haye?

Yet Fury is facing Dereck Chisora with a view to facing Klitschko afterwards and you think that's better? Yeah, good one fellas. Like I say, if you want to dislike David Haye that's you're God given right but surely you don't think Tyson Fury is a viable alternative. The only reason to despise Haye is that he failed to fight Fury and put Tyson out of Britain's misery. Sadly, we still have to endure Fury and his proclamations that he's the best HW on the planet despite every man and his dog (and the fleas) knowing that he is garbage. I'd actually pick Joshua to beat Fury right now!

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