Cincy Thread

by The Special Juan Sun 10 Aug 2014, 4:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

I didn't even realise the draw had been made. Murray's got a decent one until the QFs (can we hope Roger and Jo play a 4 hour epic today?), Isner plays Anderson in the first round. Either a double bagel over a mentally crushed Anderson or 2/3 tiebreaks. Djokovic could barely have given himself a better draw. Dimitrov and Stan are draw magnets!!

Draw is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Western_%26_Southern_Open_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_Singles

or

here: http://assets.usta.com/assets/663/15/Mens_Main_Draw.pdf

by Silver Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:21 am

Gawd it's so true, that serve is a machine. If I could do meme pictures, Sean Bean would be visiting 606v2 Wink

Just as I thought Fed was going to let this set go, he goes and wades into a Murray service game. Yet another weird/close match between these two, they're such difficult ones to call...

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:22 am

What a rally. 2008 style.

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:22 am

Holy mother of gahooley that was a forehand and a half.

by Henman Bill Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:22 am

that volley was much more like it, no wonder they cut to Edberg, something of the old school reactions in that one.

by YvonneT Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:24 am

Isn't Raonic 3-1 against Murray? Still think Federer wins this match but even if Andy wins, I think he'd lose to Raonic.

by Henman Bill Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:24 am

Yes, great forehand, perhaps not a % shot though, I think he figured he was on to a loser in the rally so had to go for it...sometimes, I even think he just can't help himself and perhaps almost deliberately hits low % shots for the glory of it just like you or I might do when playing against a mate.

by Silver Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:24 am

By the way guys, how about Pospisil and Sock? Still unbeaten as a team!

That's true Yvonne, although memories of the USO a few years back come flooding in when I think of their H2H. Raonic played like a monster that day and still lost in straights due to perhaps the best Murray returning display I've ever seen, and that's saying something. Still, Raonic has a very good chance and has been taking care of business nicely so far.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:26 am

One more break Fed.

I think Fed best matchups are Andy and Djoko for a pleasure watching and mix of weapons.

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:27 am

First Federer could do no wrong, then Murray couldn't miss, now Federer is relentless again.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:27 am

2 BP Fed, take themmmmm

by Henman Bill Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:28 am

Have you noticed when they cut to the line judge after a call to see there reaction, there never ever is one? Wouldn't it be funny if just for once they did a fist pump or a little dance or some other reaction. I wonder if they get training about this and told not to do it. I mean, you rarely even get a full smile.

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:28 am

That's bloody pathetic.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:28 am

Broken. 4 breaks in a row. 4:4

by Henman Bill Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:29 am

Murray serve has to be up there with the great shots of the game on this performance. Probably a notch below Sampras at his best if we're really asking, but not much in it.

by YvonneT Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:29 am

Sure there's only been one Murray service game in which he won the first point. If Murray was needing to build some confidence, not sure losing a double break lead is going to provide it.

by Silver Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:29 am

Dear lord, as unpredictable as ever.

The Special Juan wrote:First Federer could do no wrong, then Murray couldn't miss, now Federer is relentless again.

Often happens in this matchup, for whatever reason!

by Henman Bill Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:31 am

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=R975&oId=MC10
Murray Raonic head to head

Raonic does have 3 wins, but they've all been tight matches. Murray's one 1 win was easily done, and at the US Open.

by Henman Bill Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:31 am

textbook

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:31 am

Silver wrote:Dear lord, as unpredictable as ever.

The Special Juan wrote:First Federer could do no wrong, then Murray couldn't miss, now Federer is relentless again.

Often happens in this matchup, for whatever reason!

It's what makes their matches fun I suppose. Definitely my favourite "rivalry".

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:33 am

He took Raonic to the cleaners that day, which was extra sweet because Raonic was mumbling before the match about how Murray had to adapt to his game.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:33 am

Yessss 4 games in a row for Fed.

Keep it up baby

by Henman Bill Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:33 am

Good defence from Federer there, but Murray still blew it

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:34 am

Murray's game now sketchier than Cliff Richard's past. He'll do very well to hold here. (From a break down, Shazza went a break up but it's on serve now at 3-3 in the 2nd)

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:34 am

Close it now Fed.

by Silver Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:35 am

It's a good'un, that's for sure. In fact, if Federer wins this, it's tied at 11-11 - what's fascinating is that young Murray initially had the advantage outside of slam matches, but the last few years old Federer has been leveling matters. Very odd.

I like the Novak - Fed rivalry best for barnstorming quality, but this one is definitely no slouch.

Andy serving to stay in it...

by YvonneT Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:35 am

What's the chances of Murray being able to hold serve to stay in the match?

My favourite rivalry too TSJ, and normally I don't mind too much who wins, but just feel that Murray really needed this one.

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:37 am

Where was this 10 minutes ago!!!???

by DirectView2 Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:37 am

Edberg certainly has made Federer volley look world class now.

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:38 am

These two won't win any prizes for volleying.

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:40 am

Silver wrote:It's a good'un, that's for sure. In fact, if Federer wins this, it's tied at 11-11 - what's fascinating is that young Murray initially had the advantage outside of slam matches, but the last few years old Federer has been leveling matters. Very odd.

I remember Murray shredding Federer in Shanghai a few years ago (was it 2012?) and from then on it's not really gone his way in their match-ups.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:41 am

Dont think Fed can legg it up on set 3.

Needs to finish now.

Is it just me against you Brits? Laugh

by YvonneT Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:42 am

YvonneT wrote:What's the chances of Murray being able to hold serve to stay in the match?

Whatever the chances were, he used them up once. It'd be a miracle to hold twice, and even then, he only gets to lose on a tiebreak.

by DirectView2 Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:42 am

YvonneT wrote:What's the chances of Murray being able to hold serve to stay in the match?

My favourite rivalry too TSJ, and normally I don't mind too much who wins, but just feel that Murray really needed this one.

I would say Federer needed this one badly, he is losing so many finals of late, 2 Masters final lost and a Slam final lost this year and yet to win anything credible, so if he could somehow muster a Cincy title here it will give him a lot of confidence for USO.

Also he will be 2nd behind Djoko on Race and only 1000 points behind him, so it will make the year end no.1 a three horse race.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:45 am

Super rally. Feds BH kind of clicking tonight or at least not shaking a lot.

by DirectView2 Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:45 am

Awesome seesaw point, both played great counters.

by YvonneT Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:45 am

The Special Juan wrote:I remember Murray shredding Federer in Shanghai a few years ago (was it 2012?) and from then on it's not really gone his way in their match-ups.

Well, he finally got the win in a slam after that then they didn't play until Murray's comeback from surgery. Strange that momentum seems to be with Federer at his age though!

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:46 am

This man is not 33! Check his birth certificate.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:46 am

MP Fed. Come onnnnn

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:46 am

This'll be one of the worst set losses ever.

by DirectView2 Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:46 am

wow once again Fed's volley looked world class there.

by Silver Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:46 am

If Fed is in contention for YE#1 it'll be a ridiculous achievement after what happened last year. With Novak's baby on the way and Rafa's injury woes still intruding, though...is it possible?

The Special Juan wrote:
Silver wrote:It's a good'un, that's for sure. In fact, if Federer wins this, it's tied at 11-11 - what's fascinating is that young Murray initially had the advantage outside of slam matches, but the last few years old Federer has been leveling matters. Very odd.

I remember Murray shredding Federer in Shanghai a few years ago (was it 2012?) and from then on it's not really gone his way in their match-ups.

Aye, 2012. That was the match where Federer served three doubles in a row to concede a break from 0-15, I couldn't believe I was seeing that from a professional player, let alone him. It was a beatdown, though.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:47 am

Yessssss

by The Special Juan Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:47 am

That's dross. I want that 90 minutes of my life back Andrew. You're finished son.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:47 am

One of best sets of the year. Well done to both.

by Silver Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:49 am

Oh Andy

I'm Fed's fan but I still wanted you to win this one. What on earth happened there? Great entertainment, but...

The Special Juan wrote:This man is not 33! Check his birth certificate.

He's part Ethiopian! Wink

by DirectView2 Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:50 am

Just switched my TV on when fed got broken in 2nd and from there on Murray just made 1 Game to Fed's 4, and Fed's volley was sublime for the last 4 games.

by YvonneT Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:50 am

DirectView2 wrote:
YvonneT wrote:What's the chances of Murray being able to hold serve to stay in the match?

My favourite rivalry too TSJ, and normally I don't mind too much who wins, but just feel that Murray really needed this one.

I would say Federer needed this one badly, he is losing so many finals of late, 2 Masters final lost and a Slam final lost this year and yet to win anything credible, so if he could somehow muster a Cincy title here it will give him a lot of confidence for USO.

Also he will be 2nd behind Djoko on Race and only 1000 points behind him, so it will make the year end no.1 a three horse race.

I think Federer would have been just fine without it. Murray really needed it confidence-wise and points-wise. But what he really needs is a reliable serve.

Anyway, Federer had better beat Raonic now. But I'm not sure he will.

by Jahu Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:52 am

Another Fed Ferrer match on Final warning

That out to be the match of the year...

by DirectView2 Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:53 am

Silver wrote:Oh Andy I'm Fed's fan but I still wanted you to win this one. What on earth happened there? Great entertainment, but...

The Special Juan wrote:This man is not 33! Check his birth certificate.

He's part Ethiopian!

Well this year he has been playing some Amazing tennis but very unlucky, lost a close 3 setter in the IW finals, Lost a Close 5 Setter in Wim finals and lost uncharacteristically to Tsonga on Rogers masters finals.

Had Federer won 2 of them and this cup we would have seen a new no.1 end of this tournament. Very Happy

Yes he is 33, otherwise when was the last time he made finals in 3 big tournaments and lost them all and yet to score a big title win in a year?

by DirectView2 Sat 16 Aug 2014, 1:55 am

Jahu wrote:Another Fed Ferrer match on Final

That out to be the match of the year...

I wouldn't mind supporting Ferrer if that happens, after all Fed has lost to many junks in the past few years [specially late last year, 2011 and 2008] but Ferrer could never catch him on one of those off days.

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