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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 9:38 am

First topic message reminder :

It's almost upon us. Two teams geared up for this one. It's finally here.

Good luck to both sides and here's hoping for a cracker.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 16 Aug 2014, 11:53 am

Neutralee wrote:Youve got to admire Hoopers bravery and tenacity, taking a quickie, then a scrum option?!

Brave or niaive?

Grossly naive.

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Aug 2014, 11:55 am

You'd have to think so in these conditions

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 11:56 am

In the end Australia go for the 3 with the hooter sounding. Good captaincy from Hooper. Hits the post.

Opportune moment for half time. NZ have 8 minutes with 14 men and need to sort out their discipline. Australia had a sniff there so good time to head to the sheds and regroup.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 11:56 am

kingelderfield wrote:
Neutralee wrote:Youve got to admire Hoopers bravery and tenacity, taking a quickie, then a scrum option?!

Brave or niaive?

Grossly niaive

I disagree I think, Hooper wants a backrower off the pitch, and based on the breakdown Aus need it, Beale shouldve nailed the pen in a similar position to the original.

SA performed the same thing against Wales, and it proved a match winner.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 11:58 am

Hansen's jibes at not having a genuine goal kicker finding its mark?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:00 pm

SA will be happy about these conditions and hoping for benign conditions when they visit Australia. Bonus points are crucial and if there's a four try bonus after tonight I'll eat my cat.

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:00 pm

Have to say, rain sucks.

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:01 pm

The big fat one!!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:02 pm

I can't remember the last time I saw or felt rain...

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Post by Biltong Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:02 pm

Not a very good performance by either team, you could argue the rain has had an influence, but Beale is struggling, Folau is being isolated and even though the AB's are succeeding in their tactics, they are failing in their error rate
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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:03 pm

Can they not invest in a roof...

They only dry place in the stands will be at the back in the 3rd tier, of course you can only see half the pitch but at least you'd be dry lol

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:04 pm

Yep BB it's pretty ugly. Only genuine break from Aaron Smith and he delayed the pass for too long and it was low. Had Kaino out wide as well.

These conditions do not suit Beale. Will be interested to see if Link brings on Foley or whether he will continue with Beale for fear of people saying why didn't he just start with Foley in the first place.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:06 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Yep BB it's pretty ugly. Only genuine break from Aaron Smith and he delayed the pass for too long and it was low. Had Kaino out wide as well.

These conditions do not suit Beale. Will be interested to see if Link brings on Foley or whether he will continue with Beale for fear of people saying why didn't he just start with Foley in the first place.

Or just swap him with Tomua?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:09 pm

Toomua isn't a genuine goal kicker either.

I really feel for Australia. Rugby is finally making the back pages of the sports page and there is genuine interest after the Wallabies on a roll and a S15 title and this is the rugby fare that is served up.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:11 pm

Tomua playing first receiver a lot early on, I have to say I hate that league style floated pass Beale keeps using, everyone to take it has to secure it in the gut just in case.

Tomua looking really sharp early on here.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:12 pm

Better continuity from Oz there. Nic White needs to be taken off. He's so slow and ponderous. Whether that's the knock earlier on, it doesn't matter.

Australia need points for this good passage of play. Hooper looks strong with ball in hand.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:13 pm

Yeah he's looked good Toomua early on with his straight running.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:14 pm

And then that pass...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:14 pm

Put the jinx on him as he gives a shocker of a pass.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:17 pm

Think you may be right on White now, he's far slower, at the breakdown, and that attempted kick.

Also at the last pen Hooper was faster to the ball than him.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:18 pm

So that was a 3 point yellow card, both sides will be a bit happy with that I think.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:19 pm

Why is the ref not allowing White to challenge at the scrum, he's screaming behind the ball and blocking him, despite only getting half way around?

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:21 pm

Beale you donkey, has a hooker turned, 5m out, foot on the touchline and you fly through and let him out of jail = NZ pen on half way.

I think it's time to ditch Beale!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:22 pm

No advantage and White with a poor kick, NZ still get the lineout. Another handling mistake and Coles gets back and outdoes Beale and releases to Fekitoa. Entertaining passage of play. Rain seems to be subsiding but the damage has been done on the field.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm

Folau and Beale useless again...

Open field plenty of space and a 2 on 1 and Folau hits an air ball!!

Great strength from Savea, AAC shouldve had the pen, scrum or possibly try?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm

Try goes begging there.

Aaron Smith with a poor kicking option sees NZ almost concede a try with a poor pass spoiling it. Time to take both halfbacks off I think.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:26 pm

Last quarter coming up with score tied. NZ getting hammered on penalty count and they must sort that out.

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:27 pm

ABs need to wake up

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:28 pm

NZ going to take the lead again, the momentum is all Aus at present, nicked ball and bang 3 points.

NZ have such a nack of nicking points when under the cosh!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:29 pm

White fails to make touch and NZ get penalty. (Good intercept by Savea). How many mistakes does he have to make before he gets pulled?

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:31 pm

Wow, Savea is playing!!

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:32 pm

Out of jaol again, mcabe is no winger let alone finisher, 2 opportunites go begging.

Quick thinking and Aus are back on half way, heartbreaking for Aus they had the advantage!

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:32 pm

Why did they go wide?!?!?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:33 pm

Peyper doesn't know how to play advantage. NZ very lucky there. Great strength from Savea again.

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:33 pm

Interesting NZ have made what 4 changes, Aus none as of yet? Could be an vpact finish for Aus?

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:34 pm

Peyper with a poor call there...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:35 pm

Barrett on for Cruden. Australia have a sniff but Charles is imploding, albeit a very harsh call. Time to take him off as well. Where is Link with the changes?

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:35 pm

White, Palu, and Charles can be brought off here for an impact in performance...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:37 pm

It wasn't Charles' fault but it's not going to hurt his confidence. Can't afford to be on an attacking lineout and lose it.

Has taken off White and Fardy.

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:40 pm

ABs don't deserve to win this game

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Post by Neutralee Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:40 pm

NZ going to play the rest without a 10...

Aus have to be chomping at the bit now, if Aus ever had a chance to take a win this is it!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:40 pm

Well this is going to be interesting. Barrett off for almost all of the remaining match.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:42 pm

Great pressure kick from Beale. Big finger to Shag!

10 minutes and who will be flyhalf for NZ?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:42 pm

Comical stuff there! Will Australia pay for that mistake?

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Boom bom boom bom boom bom (Skelton)

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The ref, mmmm

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:46 pm

How is that not a penalty?!!!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Aug 2014, 12:48 pm

Good another scrum.

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De jevu with Mealamu, warrior, but come on buddy

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