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Post by Fernando Tue 19 Aug 2014, 7:38 pm

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Champions League Round of 16 Draw

PSG vs Chelsea
Man City vs Barcelona
Bayer Leverkusen vs Atletico Madrid
Juventus vs Dortmund
Schalke vs Real Madrid
Shaktar Donetsk vs Bayern Munich
Arsenal vs Monaco
Basel vs Porto


Arsenal - Monaco
Celtic - Inter Milan
Chelsea - PSG
Everton - Young Boys
Hull - OUT
Liverpool - OUT of CL dropped into Europa League - Besiktas
Man City - Barcelona
Man Utd - Swansea 21st February (It's about as close to European football as your getting this year) 
Tottenham - Fiorentina


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Post by Fernando Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:30 pm

Dortmund 1-0 Arsenal - Immobile

Good finish Poopie defending just let him keep running picard

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:32 pm

Arsenal defending lolz
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:44 pm

As for Liverpool, its pretty clear Balotelli isn't fitting at all. Doesn't have the movement of even a Lambert (who's a very intelligent player off the ball and on it)
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Post by Fernando Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:49 pm

Dortmund 2-0 - Aubameyang - Not sure where Chesney was going

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:50 pm

Arsenal all over the place at the back, Mertesacker/Koscielny all over the place, all over the place!!!
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Post by CFCNick Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:50 pm

John wrote:welbeck = special needs finisher

For a special needs club

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:52 pm

Just being completely overrun and out powered
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Post by compelling and rich Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:58 pm

keep being told that we have no chance of top 4 and that arsenal have a great defence, ozil is world class, and that wellbeck will be a great signing. dont half talk some rubbish arsenal fans

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Post by Guest Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:01 pm

embarrassing this for arsenal

ozil isnt world class, not sure who keeps banging on about that.
welbeck isnt a great signing as a striker because he cant hit a barn door or finish his dinner
arsenal have OAP mertesacker who gets ripped to shreds against pace everytime i see him

id rather have united's clinical strikeforce & attacking threats, than arsenal's pretty footballers who are all just clones & do the same repetitive thing game after game.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:02 pm

To be fair to Ozil here, he is not a right winger and Wenger seems to have got it in his head he can play there

Its like what Utd did with Kagawa. Put him in his proper position
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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:02 pm

compelling and rich wrote:keep being told that we have no chance of top 4

United fans chirping up after beating an awful QPR at home I see
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Post by compelling and rich Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:06 pm

Olly wrote:To be fair to Ozil here, he is not a right winger and Wenger seems to have got it in his head he can play there

Its like what Utd did with Kagawa. Put him in his proper position

oh the old i can only play in one position, even though that one position is required to go find space often switching with wide players anyway. any top class attacking player should be able to play across the front three. dont see people moaning about silva playing wide all the time even though he's better centrally

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:07 pm

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compelling and rich wrote:keep being told that we have no chance of top 4

United fans chirping up after beating an awful QPR at home I see

nothing to do with it, more like watching every arsenal game so far and they have looked poor everytime

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:16 pm

Ozil is similar to Mata, only in the team in the hope they produce one moment of magic but with respect to our man he has a far better eye for a goal.

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Post by CFCNick Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:20 pm

John wrote:embarrassing this for arsenal

ozil isnt world class, not sure who keeps banging on about that.
welbeck isnt a great signing as a striker because he cant hit a barn door or finish his dinner
arsenal have OAP mertesacker who gets ripped to shreds against pace everytime i see him

id rather have united's clinical strikeforce & attacking threats, than arsenal's pretty footballers who are all just clones & do the same repetitive thing game after game.

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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:21 pm

At least one turnstile gets turned in hockey
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Post by Fernando Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:23 pm

Scousers 1-0 Ludogorets - Super Mario

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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:24 pm

Was there a hint of handball there?
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Post by Guest Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:25 pm

Olly wrote:As for Liverpool, its pretty clear Balotelli isn't fitting at all

Very Happy

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:25 pm

John wrote:
Olly wrote:As for Liverpool, its pretty clear Balotelli isn't fitting at all

Very Happy
Even RVW scored a goal for Norwich etc etc
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Post by Guest Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:26 pm

John Hartson - "Danny Welbeck did everything right, got it into his feet, rolled Sokratis Papastathopoulos and must hit the target - but again blazes over the bar. But I maintain the goals will come, and he will turn out to be a great signing for Arsenal."

Yeah, okay! Delusional.

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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:32 pm

Something, something, Liverpool can't defend for crap
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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:32 pm

I quite liked ITV documenting Balotellis history of either losing or sitting on the bench in big games
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:37 pm

GET EXCITED FOR SCRAPING PAST BULGARIA'S FINEST
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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:37 pm

We knew it would be a dramatic night against some Bulgarian team nobody had heard of a few months ago.
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Post by mystiroakey Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:38 pm

Dortmound looked immense..

So strong. Blocked up arsernal all night long.

Could have scored 6

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Post by Fernando Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:40 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Dortmound looked immense..

So strong. Blocked up arsernal all night long.

Should have scored 6

2-0 flattered us over 90 mins. Suffering for not buying defensive back up unsurprisingly. Welbeck seemly working on proving my "Better then Sanogo" theory wrong.

Can only get better against Anderlecht & Gala. Play like that again we won't make top 10 PL let alone the round of 32

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Post by Ent Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:42 pm

Thought that was a dive for liverpools winner. Have to see it again.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:43 pm

But it's got to be said. Arteta , ozil and Ramsey were shocking. Dortmund bossed them and got the right side of the player every opportunity.

Welbeck could have scored a hatrick.. But the loss was nothing to do with him. Dortmund bossed the mothers out of Arsenal. It was like the Chelsea game last year . The score line flattered Arsenal big time.

They need huge improvements..

Man U will soon go to odds on for top 4. Liverpool looked shocking as well.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:43 pm

to be fair I was quite impressed by Razgrad. They played some very nice stuff at times, pressed hard all evening, and a draw wouldn't have been undeserved. I wouldn't be surprised to see them pick up a few points in this group.

Liverpool's defence is a real concern though, need to scrap playing quite such a high line IMO, the amound of times Razgrad got in behind was ridiculous. Better teams will punish that (and already have, including Man City). Also, while it may seem obvious, Liverpool miss Sturridge. Balotelli produced a moment of class for his goal, but overall they seemed overly reliand on Sterling tonight.

Also, who brings on Lucas when you need something to happen?

Finally, thoughts on that last pen? I'm watching a somewhat dodgy feed so couldn't really tell if there was any contact, but it looked a little generous to me...

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Post by hampo17 Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:45 pm

Was a stone wall pen MFC, just shown a great angle on ITV that shows the contact.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:46 pm

Fernando wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Dortmound looked immense..

So strong. Blocked up arsernal all night long.

Should have scored 6

2-0 flattered us over 90 mins. Suffering for not buying defensive back up unsurprisingly. Welbeck seemly working on proving my "Better then Sanogo" theory wrong.

Can only get better against Anderlecht & Gala. Play like that again we won't make top 10 PL let alone the round of 32

Just lucky Dortmund also don't have a better striker or it would/should/could have been 6... If Welbeck had that many chances he would have scored for them. Just to get at the end of a few chances is something at least, especially when they had so few.. His turn for the last one was nice play at least.

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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:47 pm

Still think there was a hint of handball in the first goal
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:47 pm

hampo171 wrote:Was a stone wall pen MFC, just shown a great angle on ITV that shows the contact.

fair enough, like I said watching a more-than-slightly-dodgy (Arabian) feed, so very hard to tell. My initial thought was he made the most of it, but if you say there was definite contact I'm happy to take your word on it.

Crazy goalkeeping though (not helped by a shocking backpass), should have just booted it into row Z

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:48 pm

The sweeper keeper fad is starting to become a real problem, you can only pull it off if like Lloris and Neuer you've done it for years in weaker leagues. The premier league and European football is no time to learn.

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Post by hampo17 Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:48 pm

Said that to a mate when it happened, what ever happened to if in doubt, put it out!

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:49 pm

By the way nando it's round of 16.

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Post by GSC Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:49 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The sweeper keeper fad is starting to become a real problem, you can only pull it off if like Lloris and Neuer you've done it for years in weaker leagues. The premier league and European football is no time to learn.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:52 pm

Meanwhile Olympiacos have beaten Atletico at home. Bit of an upset, probably a good result for Juventus...

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:52 pm

Thank you for the wonderful insight as ever but it's true Bayern get it especially easy and come under very little pressure.

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Post by monty junior Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:00 pm

Neuer spent most of his career at Schalke..

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Post by kingraf Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:05 pm

So... uh... Is Wilshere's impressive run of four whole consecutive good games still on, or no?
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Post by mystiroakey Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:07 pm

kingraf wrote:So... uh... Is Wilshere's impressive run of four whole consecutive good games still on,  or no?

Only arsenal player to come out of the game with any credit at all.

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:07 pm

Liverpool fans showing there class with banners about nuking Manchester, these lot the same lot that want respect for hillsborough. hypocrites

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:08 pm

Bar Schezney that is.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:09 pm

Arsenal lack quality to be a serious threat in Europe or the BPL. 

Welbeck is a joke signing. His finishing is pathetic. And the lack of a world class defensive midfielder hurts them. 

Wenger should've tried to sign Masherano and Cavani.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:11 pm

Found it rather funny that Liverpool celebrated like they'd won the CL after beating a side that was only formed 13 years ago...


Small team mentality is what Rodgers has instilled.

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Post by kingraf Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:12 pm

I thought we were alright today. 5-1 on balance is about fair. Defense still needs a lot of work. Basel seemed to stroll to Casillas' goal when they did get the opportunities. Still having lost 3 of four. It's a welcome respite.
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Post by mystiroakey Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:13 pm

Basil can be tough or really easy. Strange team.. But good result.

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Post by kingraf Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:15 pm

Might be tougher at home, and will take heart from Liverpool's performance vs that team I can't pronounce. Could cause a bit of discomfort for Pool.
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