Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC Heavy Title. Who Takes It?

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WBC champ Bermaine Stiverne & No 1 challenger & KO artist Deontay Wilder clash this weekend in Las Vegas.

Neither are particularly tested at the top level, with pretty much Stiverne's top level fight other than Lumbering Nipple Cris Arreola was a bit of a struggle against Ray Austin, who was about 96 at the time. Wilder on the other hand is crude and untested with massive power but there is a question mark over his chin as he's been all over queer street in some early videos when he's actually been hit. Wilder has height and speed, and Stiverne is tough, solid and is more experienced. It is an intriguing match up. Stiverne's 36, Wilder is 29 and a potentially very exciting fighter, but could turn into the US version of David Price.

At the moment Wilder is the betting favourite; however, I have this nagging doubt about what Wilder would do when tagged with a half decent shot. I think this fight has excitement written or over it. I doubt very much that it will go 12. Wilder seems to only know one way to fight and that is to bulldoze his opponent from the get-go and wing fast hard punches from all angles to get them out of there. Most of his opponents have been overwhelmed by power and speed, but he hasn't faced anyone who has obviously come to fight. I see Stiverne going down under an early onslaught but getting up to weather the storm. He'll make Wilder miss and take him out by round 5. Which, in all likelihood, means a 1st KO for Wilder.

Good think with Stiverne is he sat on the ropes against Arreola, and whilst he took some big shots, he counter hard and fast.

If Wilders chin IS suspect, then he could fall for that trap.

Going to be explosive though and I can't wait.

Strongback wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:My concern is with the referee. If Stiverne goes down after an early barrage is he going to be given time to recover or will the ref leap in far too early THINKING that Stiverne is more badly hurt than he actually is.

I can see Stiverne hitting the deck a couple of time before hopefully weathering the storm and taking Deontay "No Plan B" Wilder out.

Is the referee British?

How many Heavyweights in history have had a Plan B ?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

Strongback wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:My concern is with the referee. If Stiverne goes down after an early barrage is he going to be given time to recover or will the ref leap in far too early THINKING that Stiverne is more badly hurt than he actually is.

I can see Stiverne hitting the deck a couple of time before hopefully weathering the storm and taking Deontay "No Plan B" Wilder out.

Is the referee British?

How many Heavyweights in history have had a Plan B ?

mike tyson. Plan A - smash the granny out of him. Plan B - bite his ear off.
john ruiz. Plan A - hug him. Plan B - hug him some more.
Audley Harrison. Plan A - hope he doesn't hit me. Plan B - lie down if he does.

I hope Wilder wins and we have a Fury v Wilder clash

Fury will beat this guy no problems

The talentless Fury won't go near Wilder if he wins.

Steve Lillis on Twitter

Lot of people asking what time @BSTIVERNE v @BronzeBomber is in the ring on @boxnationtv. First fight 3am and it's 3rd fight. Guess 4.15



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Could be looking at 5am for anybody doing the night owl thang......

Stiverne will win. Have bet £100 on it - great odds.

After seeing Wilder at the weigh-in and his nerves - this might be Lennox vs Grant 2. Guys bum is squeaking big time. But, might be a case of Clay vs Liston.

I doubt Wilder has Ali's skill and Stiverne is pumped up and ready. Maybe to pumped up and will take silly shots - that get him Ko'd. Luckily, for Bermane he is fighting Wilder - who's accuracy is poor.

Stiverne is the most important, in this fight, and how he goes about it. He should win and I've put £100 on him but I'll not cry if Wilder shows his true worth..

You staying up to watch it Rob?

They're saying the main event is 10pm eastern time, which is 3am UK, if my drunk, tired maths is right.

It should be on next

That Maldonado dude was tough as they come. Every time he got knocked down his limbs flailed like he was out, yet he always rose to his feet. Respect.

WelshDevilRob wrote:Stiverne will win. Have bet £100 on it

Well that could be a waste...

What a cracker of a fight

Whens that lanky string of p!ss on then?

I broke my toe in a goat crash

John Bloody Wayne wrote:I broke my toe in a goat crash

Silly Billy

Lively little fight

Ruiz making cruz work hard I got ruiz 2 1

It's a good job I stayed in bed until 5pm today as I would have dropped off by now

2 2 ruiz landing lots of body shots but cruz doing the better work

3 2 cruz much better

3 3 ruiz turns up the heat great little fight

4 3 cruz landing clear powerful hits ruiz taking em well but looks a little knackered

Wtf what a Poopie stoppage

Oh come on, Ruiz was perfectly conscious, making LSC miss, throwing back. Finishing is basically just flurrying at a guy's arms now.

Ruiz hurt but still dodging majority of shots. Bad stoppage

Cracker of a right from Santa cruz

Why do the commentators always feel obliged to advocate this Poopie

Because they're stupid bastards

Cruz could commentate horse racing in fast forward

I once survived an episode of supreme disturbance in slow motion.

I think you may appreciate this jbw. if you look at snuffy ffrom sesame street...is that face not based on Steve bunce

Weak stoppage. Santa Cruz shows again he is a big SBW. He's a lot bigger than Frampton who doesn't have a great reach.

I missed the stoppage as was talking to some piece on Plenty of Fish

What a noncy entrance

No money spent on the entrances.

ShahenshahG wrote:I think you may appreciate this jbw. if you look at snuffy ffrom sesame street...is that face not based on Steve bunce

YES

Sh1t mask. Eyes wide shut

Wilder sitting on his jab pretty decent but moving out of range pretty sharpish nothing clean landed wilder wins it on lack of aggression from stiverne and his own pretty good jab

One up Wilder

Stiverne well hurt

Stiverne siting back blocking well taunting wilder who lands a good jab stiverne landing a couple but nothing serious Frak hell wilder went apes hit and smashed stiverne bell saves him

Those jabs are really snapping Stivernes' head back now. Clever from wilder not just storming in at the beginning of the third.

Wilder doing good with nice straight hits but stiverne still sitting back and blocking away. Wilder very nice jab and nice one twos. Stiverne cracks a couple to body but bulk of good work is wilder. Interesting fight

Credit to Wilder so far.

Be interesting to see how Wilders stamina holds up after this round.

On tender hooks, Just waiting for a KO.

3-1 Wilder

Stiverne starting to push it 4 1 to wilder

3 1 sorry