Wales v England - 6 February 2015 - Match thread

[BamBam]

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Wales v England
6 February 2015
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Kick off at 20.05

Referee: Jérôme Garcès (FFR)
AR1: Romain Poite (FFR)
AR2: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)

Live on BBC1

Wales

01. Gethin Jenkins
02. Richard Hibbard
03. Samson Lee
04. Alun Wyn Jones
05. Jake Ball
06. Dan Lydiate
07. Sam Warburton (c)
08. Toby Faletau

09. Rhys Webb
10. Dan Biggar
11. George North
12. Jamie Roberts
13. Jonathan Davies
14. Alex Cuthbert
15. Leigh Halfpenny

16. Scott Baldwin
17. Paul James
18. Aaron Jarvis
19. Luke Charteris
20. Justin Tipuric
21. Mike Phillips
22. Rhys Preistland
23. Liam Williams

England

15. Mike Brown
14. Anthony Watson
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Luther Burrell
11. Jonny May
10. George Ford
09. Ben Youngs  

01. Joe Marler
02. Dylan Hartley
03. Dan Cole
04. David Attwood
05. George Kruis
06. James Haskell
07. Chris Robshaw (captain)
08. Billy Vunipola

16. Tom Youngs
17. Mako Vunipola
18. Kieran Brookes
19. Tom Croft
20. Nick Easter
21. Richard Wigglesworth
22. Danny Cipriani
23. Billy Twelvetrees

[whocares]

Great stuff Joseph

[Guest]

We just let England score that one. Balls.

[TheRugbyMaster]

Awful awful tackling

[Breadvan]

Thank feck for that....

[nobbled]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

[mckay1402]

George f$#!*&£g North! !!

[Biltong]

Patient buildup and good power shown by Joseph for that try

[nathan]

Get in there, England have finally worked out that Wales get really low in the tackle so if England stutter in their run they can run round them

[nobbled]

Running AROUND the tackler???

[Steve_rugby]

Fantastic skill by Joseph, great try !

[nathan]

Warbs puts his chest on the tackled player. Is that not off your feet

[The Saint]

England are finally penalised for holding on.

[Biltong]

No way North was on his feet there.

[nathan]

England are finally penalised for holding on.

Lol, nice try Saint. We all know what your attempting.

[TheRugbyMaster]

Wales are gone. Tired. On their knees,

[Guest]

This has definitely swing in England's favour.

[nathan]

About time eh Saint, not supporting their bodyweight

[quinsforever]

Garces shocker so far cut hubert knock on he missed, cole clearly did role away yet pen given, and the shocking scrum pen in Wales 22. Plus giving advantage after Webb decides to kick. Shocking. Do we need earmuffs on line judges and refs now?

Still think we will win though.

Haha very good. thought for a second you were serious. Well done
Cole might have moved at the speed of a snail I'll give you that. You forgot to mention the only real crap call ie the fullback kick who was well inside his 22 (but that was Raynal call)

not joking at all. 22 miss was touch judge yes. hence the ear muffs comment.

stand by my prediction england to win

[Steve_rugby]

Somebody must have had a word with the ref at half time about the laws of the game.

Advantage over after you kick it away.
Tackler has to support his own body weight.

[The Saint]

England are finally penalised for holding on.

Lol, nice try Saint. We all know what your attempting.

IMO they could have been on 2 separate occasions in the build up to Joseph's try, which was a good score btw.

[quinsforever]

welsh tacklers havent supported their bodyweight all evening so why does garces blow now?

[nathan]

Bigger needs to chill

[nathan]

Having said that, he could be in the mould of brown. Mr angry that fuels him

[TheRugbyMaster]

Webb is far too slow in distribution and his kicking is average

[nathan]

I wonder if Tom youngs could be an improvement lol

[quinsforever]

body language tells a lot. englands to lose from here.

[quinsforever]

will be interesting to see what subs get brought on for both sides.

[Mike Selig]

Advantage over after you kick it away.

Want to quote the law which states this?

Tackler has to support his own body weight.

That doesn't even mean anything.

Garces has had a perfectly reasonable game, the odd decision could have gone either way, that's the nature of rugby.

[Guest]

Bring on Sanjay!

[quinsforever]

Advantage over after you kick it away.

Want to quote the law which states this?

Tackler has to support his own body weight.

That doesn't even mean anything.

Garces has had a perfectly reasonable game, the odd decision could have gone either way, that's the nature of rugby.

welcome to 606. go read the rules.

they say the tackler has to support his own bodyweight.

[Davie]

Webb is far too slow in distribution and his kicking is average

I've fallen into a time warp and that comment could have been posted 30 years ago.

Only England fans of a certain age will associate with that comment

[Guest]

Welcome to the game Mako!

[nathan]

Wales stepping back there

[Mike Selig]

Advantage over after you kick it away.

Want to quote the law which states this?

Tackler has to support his own body weight.

That doesn't even mean anything.

Garces has had a perfectly reasonable game, the odd decision could have gone either way, that's the nature of rugby.

welcome to 606. go read the rules.

they say the tackler has to support his own bodyweight.

They're called laws.

I know them cos I referee.

They may say things about the arriving players supporting their own body weight, or the tackler first getting back to his feet before playing the ball. By definition the tackler has gone to ground so isn't supporting his own weight.

[nathan]

Maybe not

[BamBam]

Bloody hell Mako

[Steve_rugby]

Tackler has to support his own body weight.

That doesn't even mean anything.

I suggest you read the laws of the game, the ref has now given 3 penalties for that offence.

[TheRugbyMaster]

England doing well for a B team away from home,

[whocares]

Somebody must have had a word with the ref at half time about the laws of the game.

Advantage over after you kick it away.
Tackler has to support his own body weight.

Yawn. The kick didnt benefit Wales (was it deflected?) so ref has to go back to the penalty otherwise what's the point of earning a penalty..
As for the tackler rule, thank you very much. It happens on both sides but those are thin margins and welsh tacklers in the 1H were more efficient and quicker than the english one so got away more easily.

[The Saint]

Mike Selig

[quinsforever]

here you go mike selig
15.6 Other players
(a)
After a tackle, all other players must be on their feet when they play the ball. Players are on their feet if no other part of their body is supported by the ground or players on the ground.

[nathan]

Yellow surely for holding on?

[Fernando]

Cuthbert shown the yellow

[The Saint]

Definite yellow I think for Cuthbert, unless its a try then surely can come back on!?

[quinsforever]

wouldnt want you refereeing one of my games. doesnt matter if its tackler, 2nd tackler or guy entering a ruck, they cant lie on players on the ground and play the ball

[Steve_rugby]

Yawn. The kick didnt benefit Wales (was it deflected?) so ref has to go back to the penalty otherwise what's the point of earning a penalty..

It wasn't a penalty, it was a knock on, so therefore advantage is over once you kick it.

[mckay1402]

Did I Just see North take a dive?

[quinsforever]

still standing by my england win prediction

[Mike Selig]

here you go mike selig
15.6 Other players
(a)
After a tackle, all other players must be on their feet when they play the ball. Players are on their feet if no other part of their body is supported by the ground or players on the ground.

"All other players" (i.e. neither the tackler nor the tackled player) being the key phrase. I.e. doesn't refer to the tackler. As I said, the concept of a tackler not supporting his weight makes no sense. By definition a tackler has gone to ground.

Yellow card entirely correct BTW. Blatant penalty in the red zone. Good decision.

[Guest]

I think we're in trouble now!

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