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6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
First topic message reminder :
SCOTLAND v WALES
Sunday 15 February 2015
KO 15:00 (GMT)
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Live on BBC1
Referee: Glen Jackson (NZR)
AR1: George Clancy (IRFU)
AR2: Dudley Phillips (IRFU)
TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)
A. Teams:
1. SCOTLAND
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors);
14 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors);
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors);
12 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors);
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby);
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors);
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester);
1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby);
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby);
3 Geoff Cross (London Irish);
4 Richie Gray (Castres);
5 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors);
6 Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors),
7 Blair Cowan (London Irish);
8 Johnnie Beattie (Castres);
16 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors);
17 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors);
18 Jon Welsh (Glasgow Warriors);
19 Jim Hamilton (Saracens);
20 Alasdair Strokosch (USA Perpignan);
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby);
22 Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby);
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby);
2. WALES
15 Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon)
14 Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues)
13 Jonathan Davies (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
12 Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro)
11 Liam Williams (Scarlets)
10 Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
09 Rhys Webb (Ospreys)
01 Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues)
02 Richard Hibbard (Gloucester)
03 Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys)
04 Jake Ball (Scarlets)
05 Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys)
06 Dan Lydiate (Ospreys)
07 Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues, CAPT)
08 Taulupe Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons)
16 Scott Baldwin (Ospreys)
17 Paul James (Bath Rugby)
18 Scott Andrews (Cardiff Blues)
19 Luke Charteris (Racing Metro)
20 Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
21 Mike Phillips (Racing Metro)
22 Rhys Priestland (Scarlets)
23 Scott Williams (Scarlets)
B. Form (last 4 games):
1. SCOTLAND
07/02/15 - France 15 - 8 Scotland
22/11/14 - Scotland 37 - 12 Tonga
15/11/14 - Scotland 16 - 24 New Zealand
08/11/14 - Scotland 41 - 31 Argentina
2. WALES
06/02/15 - Wales 16 - 21 England
29/11/14 - Wales 12 - 6 South Africa
22/11/14 - Wales 16 - 34 New Zealand
15/11/14 - Wales 17 - 13 Fiji
C. Head to Head:
120 Played 120
48 Wins 69
69 Losses 48
3 Draws 3
180 Tries 227
80 Conversions 112
130 Penalties 142
30 Drop Goals 25
1,204 Points 1,578
SCOTLAND v WALES
Sunday 15 February 2015
KO 15:00 (GMT)
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Live on BBC1
Referee: Glen Jackson (NZR)
AR1: George Clancy (IRFU)
AR2: Dudley Phillips (IRFU)
TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)
A. Teams:
1. SCOTLAND
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors);
14 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors);
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors);
12 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors);
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby);
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors);
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester);
1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby);
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby);
3 Geoff Cross (London Irish);
4 Richie Gray (Castres);
5 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors);
6 Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors),
7 Blair Cowan (London Irish);
8 Johnnie Beattie (Castres);
16 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors);
17 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors);
18 Jon Welsh (Glasgow Warriors);
19 Jim Hamilton (Saracens);
20 Alasdair Strokosch (USA Perpignan);
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby);
22 Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby);
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby);
2. WALES
15 Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon)
14 Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues)
13 Jonathan Davies (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
12 Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro)
11 Liam Williams (Scarlets)
10 Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
09 Rhys Webb (Ospreys)
01 Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues)
02 Richard Hibbard (Gloucester)
03 Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys)
04 Jake Ball (Scarlets)
05 Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys)
06 Dan Lydiate (Ospreys)
07 Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues, CAPT)
08 Taulupe Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons)
16 Scott Baldwin (Ospreys)
17 Paul James (Bath Rugby)
18 Scott Andrews (Cardiff Blues)
19 Luke Charteris (Racing Metro)
20 Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
21 Mike Phillips (Racing Metro)
22 Rhys Priestland (Scarlets)
23 Scott Williams (Scarlets)
B. Form (last 4 games):
1. SCOTLAND
07/02/15 - France 15 - 8 Scotland
22/11/14 - Scotland 37 - 12 Tonga
15/11/14 - Scotland 16 - 24 New Zealand
08/11/14 - Scotland 41 - 31 Argentina
2. WALES
06/02/15 - Wales 16 - 21 England
29/11/14 - Wales 12 - 6 South Africa
22/11/14 - Wales 16 - 34 New Zealand
15/11/14 - Wales 17 - 13 Fiji
C. Head to Head:
120 Played 120
48 Wins 69
69 Losses 48
3 Draws 3
180 Tries 227
80 Conversions 112
130 Penalties 142
30 Drop Goals 25
1,204 Points 1,578
Last edited by George Carlin on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:16 am; edited 3 times in total
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
It's funny because it's true.
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
Correct. An approach successfully adopted by France this year.LondonTiger wrote:So to paraprase:
We were shoite. Now we are less shoite and when some Saffers qualify we may be good?
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
George Carlin wrote:We honestly cannot compare these circumstances to what's transpired in the past:
2. Scotland's midfield used to comprise an entire field of donkeys who were neither able to pass, step, run quickly, run straight, run, think for themselves or avoid spectacular brainfarts. Step forward Andy Henderson, Graeme Morrison, Alex Grove, Nick de Luca, Max Evans, Rob Dewey, Tom Philip, Simon Webster and Kevin Utterson.
3. Scotland's 10 used to be nothing more than a tackle bag for the opposing team's loose forwards and had all the skills of an inebriated squadron of ferrets trying to escape from inside a buttoned duvet. I shudder at the mere mention of Dan Parks and Phil Godman who were in their own way, white crotch stains on the trousers of Scottish rugby.
4. Scotland's wingers used to be slower than a glacial crack forming, about as mobile as Madagascar and less explosive than a wet sparkler. Rory Kerr, Nikki Walker, Simon Danielli, Sean Lamont, Lee Jones. All hugely forgettable.
5. Scotland's coaches used to select players by pinning their names to a Murrayfield post and then throwing darts left handed at them from the 22 yard line.
Compare that whiteout to having Vern Cotter (a successful coach by anyone's standards) marshalling the likes of Finn Russell, Jonny Gray, Mark Bennett, Matt Scott, Alex Dunbar, Tim Visser, Rob Harley, Tommy Seymour and Stuart Hogg, with players like Willem Nel, Josh Strauss and (hopefully, eventually) Cornell du Preez on their way.
It's such an enormous difference I had to open a window to let some of the irony out.
Yet we managed to beat Australia and South Africa at home, Australia away, the double against Argentina away, as well as that infamous victory against Ireland in 2010 (?)
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GC, you're being just a tad harsh.
Dan Parks: voted man of the match for every game one 6N BY HIS TEAMMATES I have the sneakiest of suspicions t his fellow pro's know a teeny bit more about what makes a good international 10 than either of us.
Sean Lamont: what's not to love? Big heart, big appetite for the game, huge number of caps, enormous desire to win (not being too Freudian am I?)
Graeme Morison: all of Glasgow's backs can tackle way above their weight. The G-Dog played a huge part in creating the mindset that "there are no Vissers here". Scotland have a midfield of Dancer-Dunbar-Messiah all of whom are products of that environment.
Lee Jones : he's getting better now he's at a rugby club.
Kevin Utteson: who?
Dan Parks: voted man of the match for every game one 6N BY HIS TEAMMATES I have the sneakiest of suspicions t his fellow pro's know a teeny bit more about what makes a good international 10 than either of us.
Sean Lamont: what's not to love? Big heart, big appetite for the game, huge number of caps, enormous desire to win (not being too Freudian am I?)
Graeme Morison: all of Glasgow's backs can tackle way above their weight. The G-Dog played a huge part in creating the mindset that "there are no Vissers here". Scotland have a midfield of Dancer-Dunbar-Messiah all of whom are products of that environment.
Lee Jones : he's getting better now he's at a rugby club.
Kevin Utteson: who?
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It does amuse me people still think Wales will look at a 'Plan B' or will be forced to. With Warrenball there is no Plan B.
If it does not work then it is down to the players not playing 'accurately' enough, not down to outdated tactics and gameplan. It also will mean those players who didn't play accurately enough the week before get a chance to 'redeem themselves' and will talk about it being 'the players fault not the coaches, they prepare us for the game we just didn't execute the gameplan'.
If again it doesn't work then Warrenball will continue to be deployed but the press will be told that the Players are 'playing for their futures' in a Welsh Jersey and will scrape a win somewhere.
Then 'confidence will be high' in the camp and Warrenball will continue to be unleashed with mixed results.
Plan B? C'mon mun...
If it does not work then it is down to the players not playing 'accurately' enough, not down to outdated tactics and gameplan. It also will mean those players who didn't play accurately enough the week before get a chance to 'redeem themselves' and will talk about it being 'the players fault not the coaches, they prepare us for the game we just didn't execute the gameplan'.
If again it doesn't work then Warrenball will continue to be deployed but the press will be told that the Players are 'playing for their futures' in a Welsh Jersey and will scrape a win somewhere.
Then 'confidence will be high' in the camp and Warrenball will continue to be unleashed with mixed results.
Plan B? C'mon mun...
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
gcBlues wrote:It does amuse me people still think Wales will look at a 'Plan B' or will be forced to. With Warrenball there is no Plan B.
If it does not work then it is down to the players not playing 'accurately' enough, not down to outdated tactics and gameplan. It also will mean those players who didn't play accurately enough the week before get a chance to 'redeem themselves' and will talk about it being 'the players fault not the coaches, they prepare us for the game we just didn't execute the gameplan'.
If again it doesn't work then Warrenball will continue to be deployed but the press will be told that the Players are 'playing for their futures' in a Welsh Jersey and will scrape a win somewhere.
Then 'confidence will be high' in the camp and Warrenball will continue to be unleashed with mixed results.
Plan B? C'mon mun...
You make it sound like a cult...
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jimbopip wrote:GC, you're being just a tad harsh.
Dan Parks: voted man of the match for every game one 6N BY HIS TEAMMATES I have the sneakiest of suspicions t his fellow pro's know a teeny bit more about what makes a good international 10 than either of us.
Sean Lamont: what's not to love? Big heart, big appetite for the game, huge number of caps, enormous desire to win (not being too Freudian am I?)
Graeme Morison: all of Glasgow's backs can tackle way above their weight. The G-Dog played a huge part in creating the mindset that "there are no Vissers here". Scotland have a midfield of Dancer-Dunbar-Messiah all of whom are products of that environment.
Lee Jones : he's getting better now he's at a rugby club.
Kevin Utteson: who?
There's a common theme here.....
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lostinwales wrote:gcBlues wrote:It does amuse me people still think Wales will look at a 'Plan B' or will be forced to. With Warrenball there is no Plan B.
If it does not work then it is down to the players not playing 'accurately' enough, not down to outdated tactics and gameplan. It also will mean those players who didn't play accurately enough the week before get a chance to 'redeem themselves' and will talk about it being 'the players fault not the coaches, they prepare us for the game we just didn't execute the gameplan'.
If again it doesn't work then Warrenball will continue to be deployed but the press will be told that the Players are 'playing for their futures' in a Welsh Jersey and will scrape a win somewhere.
Then 'confidence will be high' in the camp and Warrenball will continue to be unleashed with mixed results.
Plan B? C'mon mun...
You make it sound like a cult...
change the 'l' to an 'n'
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
Must take issue with you GC, I thought Tom Phillips was a fantastic player and can only think of what might have been had he not been crocked so early in his career. I do agree that we now have a midfield to be respected , fingers crossed they stay in one piece !
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luvtotup wrote:Must take issue with you GC, I thought Tom Phillips was a fantastic player and can only think of what might have been had he not been crocked so early in his career. I do agree that we now have a midfield to be respected , fingers crossed they stay in one piece !
Agree 100% - his début against Wales was incredible. Complete wrecking ball!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:luvtotup wrote:Must take issue with you GC, I thought Tom Phillips was a fantastic player and can only think of what might have been had he not been crocked so early in his career. I do agree that we now have a midfield to be respected , fingers crossed they stay in one piece !
Agree 100% - his début against Wales was incredible. Complete wrecking ball!
Tried to find highlights and this came up - the things you find on the internet eh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN5I0jaoUEY
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Is that the Trainspotting movie?
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RDW - you owe me 12 minutes of my life back.
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Back on to the rugby, I've just seen Strokosh's stats from the 27 minutes he played against France last week:
Tackles made - 0
Tackles missed - 1
Not exactly what you would call an impact sub, especially a blindside whose role it is to make the hard tackles!
Tackles made - 0
Tackles missed - 1
Not exactly what you would call an impact sub, especially a blindside whose role it is to make the hard tackles!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Back on to the rugby, I've just seen Strokosh's stats from the 27 minutes he played against France last week:
Tackles made - 0
Tackles missed - 1
Not exactly what you would call an impact sub, especially a blindside whose role it is to make the hard tackles!
I know, but we have no one else better to fill that posit...........never mind
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
cakeordeath wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:Back on to the rugby, I've just seen Strokosh's stats from the 27 minutes he played against France last week:
Tackles made - 0
Tackles missed - 1
Not exactly what you would call an impact sub, especially a blindside whose role it is to make the hard tackles!
I know, but we have no one else better to fill that posit...........never mind
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
Jenkins was poor, not just in the scrum but generally, props have these days from time to time. I'd take Jenkins over James, but I'd have Rob Evans on the bench for impact, hes a smart mobile (but inexperienced) prop.
Hibbard was poor, again his aggressive self but didnt really contribute that much. I'd have had Dacey on the bench, inexperienced again but mobile and dynamic, unlike Baldwin.
I'd have had Adam Jones in the squad from the off.
Jake Ball/AWJ is as good a 2nd row as we can put out.
Lydiate again didnt do anything of note bar 1 decent tackle on Haskell in the first half. Tips is so much more creative its starting to hurt.
I'd go backrow of Warbs/Tips/Toby.
Webb/Biggar for halfbacks. they're worst game together in a welsh jersey, behind a pack going backwards, with none of the 'big welsh runners' offering anything outside of them either, they were always on a hiding to nothing if they couldnt win that game on their own imo.
Im a huge JD2 fan but he was anonymous, Scott Williams should have started at 13, hes been knocking the door down for well over a year.
North was poor (understandably but lets no go there). Cuthbert scores tries for Wales and Liam Williams HAD to come in. Back 3 now has better balance, North/Cuthbert are similar for me, 1 more creative, 1 more a strike runner, defence for both is poor.
Its the bench that gets me, you need impact from the bench and we just dont use it that way.
Disappointed in general if I'm being honest. Still think they'll have enough to beat this emerging Scotland team, but only by a score.
Hibbard was poor, again his aggressive self but didnt really contribute that much. I'd have had Dacey on the bench, inexperienced again but mobile and dynamic, unlike Baldwin.
I'd have had Adam Jones in the squad from the off.
Jake Ball/AWJ is as good a 2nd row as we can put out.
Lydiate again didnt do anything of note bar 1 decent tackle on Haskell in the first half. Tips is so much more creative its starting to hurt.
I'd go backrow of Warbs/Tips/Toby.
Webb/Biggar for halfbacks. they're worst game together in a welsh jersey, behind a pack going backwards, with none of the 'big welsh runners' offering anything outside of them either, they were always on a hiding to nothing if they couldnt win that game on their own imo.
Im a huge JD2 fan but he was anonymous, Scott Williams should have started at 13, hes been knocking the door down for well over a year.
North was poor (understandably but lets no go there). Cuthbert scores tries for Wales and Liam Williams HAD to come in. Back 3 now has better balance, North/Cuthbert are similar for me, 1 more creative, 1 more a strike runner, defence for both is poor.
Its the bench that gets me, you need impact from the bench and we just dont use it that way.
Disappointed in general if I'm being honest. Still think they'll have enough to beat this emerging Scotland team, but only by a score.
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
Comfort wrote:Jenkins was poor, not just in the scrum but generally, props have these days from time to time. I'd take Jenkins over James, but I'd have Rob Evans on the bench for impact, hes a smart mobile (but inexperienced) prop.
Hibbard was poor, again his aggressive self but didnt really contribute that much. I'd have had Dacey on the bench, inexperienced again but mobile and dynamic, unlike Baldwin.
I'd have had Adam Jones in the squad from the off.
Jake Ball/AWJ is as good a 2nd row as we can put out.
Lydiate again didnt do anything of note bar 1 decent tackle on Haskell in the first half. Tips is so much more creative its starting to hurt.
I'd go backrow of Warbs/Tips/Toby.
Webb/Biggar for halfbacks. they're worst game together in a welsh jersey, behind a pack going backwards, with none of the 'big welsh runners' offering anything outside of them either, they were always on a hiding to nothing if they couldnt win that game on their own imo.
Im a huge JD2 fan but he was anonymous, Scott Williams should have started at 13, hes been knocking the door down for well over a year.
North was poor (understandably but lets no go there). Cuthbert scores tries for Wales and Liam Williams HAD to come in. Back 3 now has better balance, North/Cuthbert are similar for me, 1 more creative, 1 more a strike runner, defence for both is poor.
Its the bench that gets me, you need impact from the bench and we just dont use it that way.
Disappointed in general if I'm being honest. Still think they'll have enough to beat this emerging Scotland team, but only by a score.
As an outsider, I'd agree with pretty much all of this.
9 months away from a WC, its odd to completely get rid of Adam Jones.
In fairness to Lydiate, even when at the very top of his game he wasn't much use when Wales had the ball, has Tipuric been playing well?
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
Comfort wrote:
Lydiate again didnt do anything of note bar 1 decent tackle on Haskell in the first half. Tips is so much more creative its starting to hurt.
Is that what you want from a flanker though? And if that's his strength then I haven't seen much of it from him this season. Personally I think Tipuric is overrated. He's not very consistent either. We could do with a No.6 like Haskell but we don't have one. When Baker is fit I'm open to seeing Toby at 6 and Baker at 8.
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I notice Strokosh is in the papers talking about last year's game.
I worry that means he will be starting and Harley hasn't made it
I worry that means he will be starting and Harley hasn't made it
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
Warrenball - dominate set piece and win collisions then play wide, are these not the basics on which all rugby is won and lost?
Arguably England beat us by playing Warrenball better than us?
As for Sunday I think it will be a good game and I expect Scotland to play some good rugby and potentially turn us over
Arguably England beat us by playing Warrenball better than us?
As for Sunday I think it will be a good game and I expect Scotland to play some good rugby and potentially turn us over
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GavinDragon wrote:Warrenball - dominate set piece and win collisions then play wide, are these not the basics on which all rugby is won and lost?
Arguably England beat us by playing Warrenball better than us?
As for Sunday I think it will be a good game and I expect Scotland to play some good rugby and potentially turn us over
They sure did, and they also played better heads up rugby. That's what teams can do when the form players are picked.
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The Saint wrote:Comfort wrote:
Lydiate again didnt do anything of note bar 1 decent tackle on Haskell in the first half. Tips is so much more creative its starting to hurt.
Is that what you want from a flanker though? And if that's his strength then I haven't seen much of it from him this season. Personally I think Tipuric is overrated. He's not very consistent either. We could do with a No.6 like Haskell but we don't have one. When Baker is fit I'm open to seeing Toby at 6 and Baker at 8.
I don't think its the "creative" side of Tips that is being talked about, its just offering something going forward as well as defensively. Is there really space for someone in an international back row who offers next to nothing ball in hand, won't make any kind of ground, isn't acting as a link man, isn't particularly explosive in clearing rucks?
Lydiate is possibly the finest pure tackler in rugby, but is that enough now? There's not many international calibre flankers who will miss many tackles, but those players are also likely to be better in attack.
England fans have been debating whether Wood is the right man for the 6 shirt, but he had the unique points of being an excellent line out jumper as well as an excellent ruck operator, and also IMO was a better player ball in hand than Lydiate ever has been. Haskell has now come in due to his ball carrying and destructive abilities, and looked brilliant in his last two starts, so it just goes to show that maybe a change can be good, even if it doesn't appear to be a weakness on paper or on past form.
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Weegie Wizard wrote:I notice Strokosh is in the papers talking about last year's game.
I worry that means he will be starting and Harley hasn't made it
Good lord - Strokosch and Beattie in the back row!!? We'll be hammered!
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
funnyExiledScot wrote:Weegie Wizard wrote:I notice Strokosh is in the papers talking about last year's game.
I worry that means he will be starting and Harley hasn't made it
Good lord - Strokosch and Beattie in the back row!!? We'll be hammered!
If that is indeed who lines up then congratulations to Wales now.
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
RDW, you've just made my afternoon. Thank you so very much.RDW_Scotland wrote:Tried to find highlights and this came up - the things you find on the internet eh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN5I0jaoUEY
I dare anyone to read the comments on that video without laughing. I know I wouldn't classify myself as the absolute coolest hõmbre to ever walk this Earth but... seriously just take a look.
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IanBru wrote:
I dare anyone to read the comments on that video without laughing. I know I wouldn't classify myself as the absolute coolest hõmbre to ever walk this Earth but... seriously just take a look.
Personal favourite:
Plenty of action here, wish we could see these lovely EWS liveried 37's again on passenger services. Excellent coverage.
First of all, his definition of 'action' and mine vary quite differently!
As for the EWS liveried 37s, well, don't we all miss those!
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
A photograph of Beattie would concede fewer penalties than he does and be substantially more useful in the loose.EWT Spoons wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:Weegie Wizard wrote:I notice Strokosh is in the papers talking about last year's game.
I worry that means he will be starting and Harley hasn't made it
Good lord - Strokosch and Beattie in the back row!!? We'll be hammered!
If that is indeed who lines up then congratulations to Wales now.
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I would probably prefer Denton (or Hogg, Brown etc...) at 8 to Beattie but the presence of Stroker instead of Harley is about 14 times more worrying
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
Hugh Blake starting for Edinburgh this weekend.
No Matt Scott or Tim Visser in that Edinburgh line up, so.........
No Matt Scott or Tim Visser in that Edinburgh line up, so.........
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Those Trainspotters........................ quite a sleazy bunch...all that queasy close up detail....; where has the romance gone when all you'd see is the smoke rising into the sky? Dirty stuff that video!
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George Carlin wrote:Hugh Blake starting for Edinburgh this weekend.
No Matt Scott or Tim Visser in that Edinburgh line up, so.........
No toolis or Watson either - on the bench?
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I have absolutely no clue whatsoever whom our loose forwards are going to be.
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If no Harley, could be Watson and Cowan at flanker?
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SRU put a video up of behind the scenes at the Scotland 'headshot' shoot for this weekend - Dunbar, Scott, Seymour and Toolis were in it among others, so they might all be involved!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:SRU put a video up of behind the scenes at the Scotland 'headshot' shoot for this weekend - Dunbar, Scott, Seymour and Toolis were in it among others, so they might all be involved!
Are any of the Gray's reported as injured? Unless it's for Hamilton, but I don't think he picked up an injury either.
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Both Grays are shown in it, and to be fair Hamilton is too.
Maybe Toolis is one of the reserve reserves, or maybe I'm just looking too much into it!
Surely Matt Scott getting his headshot done suggests he's fit though?
Maybe Toolis is one of the reserve reserves, or maybe I'm just looking too much into it!
Surely Matt Scott getting his headshot done suggests he's fit though?
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RDW_Scotland wrote:SRU put a video up of behind the scenes at the Scotland 'headshot' shoot for this weekend - Dunbar, Scott, Seymour and Toolis were in it among others, so they might all be involved!
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Finding the radio silence from the SRU pretty frustrating.
If they're trying to engage with the younger generation they need to improve their online-marketing strategy.
If they're trying to engage with the younger generation they need to improve their online-marketing strategy.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Both Grays are shown in it, and to be fair Hamilton is too.
Maybe Toolis is one of the reserve reserves, or maybe I'm just looking too much into it!
Surely Matt Scott getting his headshot done suggests he's fit though?
It's perhaps possible that Toolis could end up covering the back row.
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A back of the line jumper with a big work rate and likes to tackle?funnyExiledScot wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:Both Grays are shown in it, and to be fair Hamilton is too.
Maybe Toolis is one of the reserve reserves, or maybe I'm just looking too much into it!
Surely Matt Scott getting his headshot done suggests he's fit though?
It's perhaps possible that Toolis could end up covering the back row.
I smell a Rob Harley replacement.
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FeS suggesting a lock covers back row, whatever will happen next?
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Blake and Te Rure playing for the MFL on this week: so they'll be starting against Italy then? Or England?
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EST wrote:FeS suggesting a lock covers back row, whatever will happen next?
Not suggesting, merely touting it as a possibility......
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jimbopip wrote:Blake and Te Rure playing for the MFL on this week: so they'll be starting against Italy then? Or England?
I seriously hope not!
In some respects I feel sorry for Blake. He's already got an awful lot to prove!
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You also suggested (perhaps facetiously) that Bennett is a future Lions captain. I'm getting worried about you, buddy.funnyExiledScot wrote:EST wrote:FeS suggesting a lock covers back row, whatever will happen next?
Not suggesting, merely touting it as a possibility......
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Anything's possible:funnyExiledScot wrote:EST wrote:FeS suggesting a lock covers back row, whatever will happen next?
Not suggesting, merely touting it as a possibility......
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funnyExiledScot wrote:EST wrote:FeS suggesting a lock covers back row, whatever will happen next?
Not suggesting, merely touting it as a possibility......
If it did happen, I don't think my brain could process the reality that a 22 year old lock was favored over KB as a back row replacement.
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thisEST wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:EST wrote:FeS suggesting a lock covers back row, whatever will happen next?
Not suggesting, merely touting it as a possibility......
If it did happen, I don't think my brain could process the reality that a 22 year old lock was favored over KB as a back row replacement.
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Re: 6N Round 2: Scotland v Wales, 15 February
RDW_Scotland wrote:Back on to the rugby, I've just seen Strokosh's stats from the 27 minutes he played against France last week:
Tackles made - 0
Tackles missed - 1
Not exactly what you would call an impact sub, especially a blindside whose role it is to make the hard tackles!
Yeah, but if you believe the headlines from the Western Fail, he's going to make Wales pay this weekend cos they were swan diving (fair enough) and singing in the post match function last year. I mean, how dare they sing
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