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Post by Qoxiivi Sat 12 Sep 2015, 7:29 pm

First topic message reminder :

I see these started whenever there's a big fight on so I thought I'd be the one to start tonight's. Ok, there's no real big, competitive fight on, but hey.

So, tonight we have a few in interested (slightly) in: Groves, Joshua, Whyte and Mayweather.

My take? The guy Groves is fighting seems like the kind he was knocking out before he fought Froch. If he hasn't been broken by those two fights then I expect (and hope) for a stoppage in his favour.

Joshua I expect to win by stoppage within a few rounds, despite the nonsense hype. I was struck by Cornish's trainer saying that they fought similar level opponents, so I looked it up. He's fought, like, only three opponents with winning records. They're both 'untested', but they're records are a mile apart. Don't get me wrong, Cornish is coming to win, but only because he's undefeated and this circus has probably convinced him that this means they're equivalent. They're not. It's a mismatch.

Whyte will win by KO also. Another mismatch; a foregone conclusion, arranged to ensure nothing goes off the rails with regards to his and Joshua's 'rematch'.

Mayweather and Berto? UD. Hoping for a miraculous Berto KO, but Mayweather is a genius. I can't stand the guy, but he's head and shoulders above anyone in his weight division and is a living embodiment of the beautiful science. He will win. Clearly. He is a massive Mr Winklechops though and that really can't be overstated enough, I have to say.

Please post the action as it happens. I'll be following.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:21 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:Isn't that a retirement and go to scorecards?

Unless it was caused by Hibbert breaking the rules then it's just a retirement and stoppage win.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:22 pm

Ahh Yea really bad luck would have won easily

Gave Hibbert two rounds being incredibly generous arguably only deserved the first

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Post by Derbymanc Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:23 pm

his back looks done, had to be helped out to the dressing room. Am gutted for him but happy for JWH as he's another nice guy of the sport. Don't think he's too keen on a rematch though Smile

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:24 pm

Looks like the injury was caused by a punch. What's protocol for an injury caused by a punch to an illegal zone? Can it be overturned afterwards?


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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:24 pm

Will add BF88 that i've unfortunately not been watching, apparently Big Brother takes preference.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:27 pm

Goes to scorecard if accidental foul means cannot continue

Dunno though it's difficult to.tell if a punch caused it or just bad luck

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Post by Derbymanc Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:28 pm

Ha ha, unlucky HH, we had to watch X factor first so sympathise with you.
Don't think it should be overturned really, it's a lifeline for JWH and if they play it right they could have a 4th big bout as co main event to a local show. It's not like they couldn't do with a shot in the arm lately

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:28 pm

Sky go it!

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Post by milkyboy Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:33 pm

If you could win a fight on the cards through injury... Floyd would stick and move for a round and claim he'd tweaked a rotator cuff.

It's too open to abuse and interpretation. Would never work in such a clean straight sport like boxing.

Great stoppage from ijl!

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:35 pm

It's alright guys, the big muscular one is on so I can now put it on.

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Post by Fernando Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:36 pm

Laugh

Well it's main event time. Im going for Round 4.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:37 pm

What's this BS countdown all about, get on with it FFS.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:38 pm

Very Klitschko that video.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:39 pm

2 rounds think joshua is going to go for it early

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:40 pm

The entrances took longer then probebly the fight itself will go

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Post by Scottrf Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:42 pm

If Steven Naismith and Robert Helenius had a child = Gary Cornish.

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Post by Fernando Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:46 pm

And Cornish is down

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Post by Fernando Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:46 pm

And again

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Post by Fernando Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:46 pm

All over in 90 seconds LOL

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Post by Scottrf Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:47 pm

Damn this kid can punch.

That was a short punch too for the first KD, didn't even extend.


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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:47 pm

Wow

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:48 pm

That power is just insane

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:48 pm

Well that was pretty pointless, doubt Whyte is lasting much longer, roll on 2016.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:50 pm

On paper it was a good test....

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:51 pm

On tonight's performance, whyte won't take much longer.

I didn't think Cornish's legs looked that bad but he did look over matched.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:55 pm

Happytravelling wrote:

I didn't think Cornish's legs looked that bad


Hammy talking about aj's muscles, happy talking about Cornish's legs. Thought I was on one of truss' blue oyster threads.

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Post by rob-glos Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:56 pm

People keep saying "we don't know how his stamina will hold up after 7-8 rounds".....

I wonder if there's actually anybody out there to take him that far.

His chin is the only question really, if he can take a punch then I can't see anybody at all that can withstand his power.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:59 pm

Milky, where is truss? All dressed up in the 'weekend wear'?

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Post by Scottrf Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:00 pm

Whyte is a Winkle.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:03 pm

AJ is defo top 10 in the world now for me i dont see half the top 10 that is currently there that would last too long with AJ

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:04 pm

To me, whyte is still a bit raw for Joshua. He could do with a few more fights

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Post by Dipper Brown Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:06 pm

If AJ hits you first, you go. Simple as that.

He could get to challenging for the big one before anyone gets close to him.

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Post by catchweight Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:09 pm

Hopefully they will Joshua of the leash now against a higher calibre of opposition. 2016 has some good fights - Price, Chisora, Fury and wouldnt be surprised to see David Haye re-appear at long last in 2016. There is a whiff of ppv about domestically.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:09 pm

Happytravelling wrote:Milky, where is truss? All dressed up in the 'weekend wear'?

the, Rubbing oil on some rent boy probably

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Post by Scottrf Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:13 pm

They need to set up backup opponents for Joshua to guarantee, say, 6 rounds of boxing.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:15 pm

IScottrf wrote:Whyte is a Winkle.

What do you expect him to say Scott? Should he just buy his ticket on the Joshua hype train, and join the sky love-in. 'Yeh Johnny, Joshua looks great, he's gonna spark me'

Of the two Joshua is the bigger winkle. The mouth moves and the pre-recorded script comes out. Personality of a lobotomised Dover sole.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:16 pm

Chisora would be good for AJ but I think del is after Teper.

I don't think any domestics will won't any of aj, if he walks through whyte. The only one with a chance is Haye but he may not come back.


Bellotti has a dig for a little one.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:17 pm

milkyboy wrote:
IScottrf wrote:Whyte is a Winkle.

What do you expect him to say Scott? Should he just buy his ticket on the Joshua hype train, and join the sky love-in. 'Yeh Johnny, Joshua looks great, he's gonna spark me'

Of the two Joshua is the bigger winkle. The mouth moves and the pre-recorded script comes out. Personality of a lobotomised Dover sole.
Doesn't need to basically call Cornish a bum though. You don't need to be a boobie to be 'real'. It's not like Whyte's record is full of names.

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Post by catchweight Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:21 pm

I think Whyte seemed ok for a guy who is going to be set up as the fall guy on SKy for Joshua's Mr Nice Guy, Stay Humble manuactured routine.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:23 pm

did he call him a bum? I'll admit he implied it Wink

Kind of had a point too.... Whether whyte fairs any better is another question

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:24 pm

I couldn't care less about AJ's personality, if he's still delivering brutal knockouts when he steps up then that's all I care about.

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Post by catchweight Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:27 pm

Well Sky were trying to force feed a script down his throat about Cornish being undefeated, 21-0, danferous etc. He lasted less than even the biggest journeyman looking for a pay day on Joshua record and Whyte pointed out he was 21-0 against fighters not even in the top 200 - fair point but obviosuly not what the Sky guys wanted to hear.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:27 pm

Despite AJ's stay humble sky backed persona we all know AJ is likely a nasty guy but that helps him in the ring

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:29 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:Despite AJ's stay humble sky backed persona we all know AJ is likely a nasty guy but that helps him in the ring

Biggest name in boxing since Ali was a disgusting human being and wasn't afraid of the world knowing, not sure why they're trying to make AJ something he's not.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:32 pm

Scottrf wrote:They need to set up backup opponents for Joshua to guarantee, say, 6 rounds of boxing.

laughing

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Post by milkyboy Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:33 pm

OHammersmith harrier wrote:I couldn't care less about AJ's personality, if he's still flexing those lovely muscles when he steps up then that's all I care about.

Fixed that for you

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:33 pm

catchweight wrote:Well Sky were trying to force feed a script down his throat about Cornish being undefeated, 21-0, danferous etc. He lasted less than even the biggest journeyman looking for a pay day on Joshua record and Whyte pointed out he was 21-0 against fighters not even in the top 200 - fair point but obviosuly not what the Sky guys wanted to hear.

Because he tried to win and put it on Joshua, which is good rather than trying to survive.

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Post by catchweight Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:37 pm

When you last barely a minute its hard to really say how much he went for it and how much was down to just getting blasted out by just not being all that good. Probably a bit of both but when you are building a guy up as an unbeaten and dangerous opponent and hes gone after a minute I think it fair game to point out who the 21 wins were against.


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Post by Happytravelling Sun 13 Sep 2015, 1:24 am

Gonzales v oquendo is entertaining. It won't go the distance.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 13 Sep 2015, 2:21 am

Decent recovery round by Groves in the second, but he just isn't moving his head here.
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