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Post by George Carlin Mon 28 Sep 2015, 7:11 am

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ENGLAND v AUSTRALIA
3 October 2015
KO: 20:00
Twickenham, London

Live on [tbc]

Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Touch judges: George Clancy (Ireland) & Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Television match official: Shaun Veldsman (South Africa)

A. Head to Head

43 Played 43
18 Won 24
1 Drawn 1
24 Lost 18
661 Points 907

B. Recent Form

29 November 2014
Twickenham, London
26 – 17 to England

2 November 2013
Twickenham, London
20 – 13 to England

17 November 2012
Twickenham, London
14 – 20 to Australia

13 November 2010
Twickenham, London
35 – 18 to England

19 June 2010
Telstra Stadium, Sydney
20 – 21 to England

12 June 2010
Subiaco Oval, Perth
27 – 17 to Australia

7 November 2009
Twickenham, London
9 – 18 to Australia

15 November 2008
Twickenham, London
14 – 28 to Australia

6 October 2007
Stade Vélodrome, Marseille, France
10 – 12 to England

C. Teams

ENGLAND
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15. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 41 caps)
14. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 13 caps)
13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 14 caps)
12. Brad Barritt (Saracens, 25 caps)
11. Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 18 caps)
10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 33 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 51 caps)

1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 35 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 26 caps)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 54 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 26 caps)
5. Geoff Parling (Exeter Chiefs, 27 caps)
6. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 40 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (captain, Harlequins, 41 caps)
8. Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 30 caps)

16. Rob Webber (Bath Rugby, 15 caps)
17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 25 caps)
18. Kieran Brookes (Northampton Saints, 14 caps)
19. George Kruis (Saracens, 8 caps)
20. Nick Easter (Harlequins, 52 caps)
21. Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 25 caps)
22. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 15 caps)
23. Sam Burgess (Bath Rugby, 4 caps)

AUSTRALIA
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1. Scott Sio (12 Tests)
2. Stephen Moore (c) (97 Tests)
3. Sekope Kepu (58 Tests)
4. Kane Douglas (18 Tests)
5. Rob Simmons (55 Tests)
6. Scott Fardy (25 Tests)
7. Michael Hooper (vc) (47 Tests)
8. David Pocock (51 Tests)

9. Will Genia (61 Tests)
10. Bernard Foley (22 Tests)
11. Rob Horne (28 Tests)
12. Matt Giteau (97 Tests)
13. Tevita Kuridrani (25 Tests)
14. Adam Ashley-Cooper (vc) (109 Tests)
15. Israel Folau (34 Tests)

*Reserves to be confirmed


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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:01 pm

Ford on

Lancaster needs to roll the dice
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Post by Duty281 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:01 pm

Lancaster's done something good!

May off? Half-good.


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Post by 2ndtimeround Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:01 pm

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nathan wrote:Haven't heard robshaws name mentioned. T. Young's playing really well but I'm sure he'll be made a scapegoat at the end

Agree with every word of that.

If Farrell comes out for the second half we've lost. He's been diabolical. We're making great breaks on first phase set plays but as soon as we get to their 22 it's stodgy predicable crash ball and we get turned over. Farrell has gone missing outside of first phase.

Ben Youngs is our only creative player and our only chance of scoring a try outside of frist phase ball.

They do seem to be freezing in the Australian 22, if they can change the mindset and run the last 22 the way they are running between th 22's then they could turn this around, hell of a big ask though against a really good looking Australia team.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:01 pm

Ford on May off, Farrell Barritt centres and JJ on the wing?
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Post by eirebilly Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:01 pm

Ford on, come on England Very Happy
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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:02 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
nathan wrote:Haven't heard robshaws name mentioned. T. Young's playing really well but I'm sure he'll be made a scapegoat at the end


Ben Youngs is our only creative player and our only chance of scoring a try outside of frist phase ball.

???
Ben Youngs is one of the main reasons you are behind. He is painfully slow getting to the breakdown. England's backs look dangerous with quick ball but right now, Youngs is so slow that he look like he is related to Greg Laidlaw.
Overall, from a neutral's perspective (and without any anti-English bias) this is a good game to watch

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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:02 pm

Wait...May is off?

So Josephs has been moved to the wing and the English midfield is now Farrell and Barritt?

Oh dear...
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:02 pm

Ford we needed. Farrell we didn't. Once again the uninspiring Farrell and Barrett midfield. Haven't we learned about that already.

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Post by Espee66 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:03 pm

Farrell's at 12 , we really are Frak now .

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:03 pm

What an abysmal change
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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:04 pm

England need creativity and have just put their most creative centre onto the wing...

I think Lancaster might be out of a job
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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:04 pm

Poor bench selection is shown up as our best attacking midfielder has to make way because we have no back three cover.

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Post by BamBam Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:04 pm

Gee if only we had an actual back 3 option on the bench

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:04 pm

Ford on for May. Shows the problem with this bench. We now have no danger in the midfield.

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Post by nathan Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:04 pm

We're screwed

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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:05 pm

Genia needs protection for those box kicks
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Post by Bathman_in_London Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:05 pm

Mays injury shows why we needed back 3 cover on the bench.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:05 pm

Youngs at scrum half is playing poorly with looping passes putting the receiver under pressure. This game is opening up which will suit Australia, if they get a bonus point Wales should field a weak team next week to protect what players they have left.

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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:06 pm

Pocock is awesome,

I think maybe Wales need to play Warburton and Tipuric next week...
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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:06 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Youngs at scrum half is playing poorly with looping passes putting the receiver under pressure. This game is opening up which will suit Australia, if they get a bonus point Wales should field a weak team next week to protect what players they have left.

Why? The bonus point wont matter, if Wales win they top the pool and vice versa
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:06 pm

Pocock is awesome. I think the only way we can deal with him is to have Warbs and Tips starting next week.

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Post by nathan Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:07 pm

No release!

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Post by Espee66 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:07 pm

Taxi for Lancaster .

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Post by George Carlin Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:07 pm

I'm sorry, but what other conclusion are we supposed to come to other than Lancaster is a poor selector of players? I have no doubt that he's a fine coach.
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Post by 2ndtimeround Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:07 pm

wales606 wrote:Pocock is awesome,

I think maybe Wales need to play Warburton and Tipuric next week...
OK

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:08 pm

Burgess should never have been on the bench. Either in the starting XV or out completely.

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Post by nathan Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:08 pm

Why do we have to hold on a lot longer than aus do?

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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:08 pm

In that situation, why do no teams ever tap the ball and go for the drop goal?

It was centre of the field and England were miles back
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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:09 pm

Oz are getting the rub of the green with the ref.Why weren't Oz done for holding on? The English guy (Cole I think) was on his feet, supporting his weight etc

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:10 pm

Marler has been sussed, need to sub him he is a one trick pony.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:10 pm

The media pressure on Marler has worked!

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Post by Notch Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:11 pm

I really feel so sorry for England as the crushing inevitability of this brings back painful memories for me of Ireland in 2007. Maybe there is time for a miraculous turnaround, although given what the Aussies just did to the English scrum there...

Marler is getting pinged off the pitch, doesn't matter if its him or if its their 3, the ref has made up his mind so why is he still on?
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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:11 pm

Should England not pull off Marler (if you'll pardon the expression)? He is getting murdered and the ref clearly is watching him. We had to change both props at half time in our first game. To hell with egos, if they are getting pinged every time, you need to change something

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Post by wales606 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:11 pm

It was already very very hard for England...now it is very very very hard.
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Post by Fernando Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:11 pm

3-20 - We're going out if continue like this.

Marler is off.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:11 pm

Christ when we're getting pasted at the scrum, forget it

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:12 pm

InjuredYetAgain wrote:Should England not pull off Marler (if you'll pardon the expression)? He is getting murdered and the ref clearly is watching him. We had to change both props at half time in our first game. To hell with egos, if they are getting pinged every time, you need to change something
And the change is made - I am available to be England's next coach

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Post by Duty281 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:12 pm

Wigglesworth? This shows the stupidity of not having Care on the bench.

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Post by Fernando Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:12 pm

Aus 4 off the ball

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:12 pm

How do you pick a bench where the only way you can cover an injury to the back three or outside centre is by destroying your midfield?

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Post by rapidsnowman Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:12 pm

Don't think any of these Australians would get in the England team.

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Post by kingraf Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:12 pm

It all went wrong for Robshaw when he switched to Beats by Dre. Sennheiser for the win
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Post by yappysnap Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:12 pm

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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:14 pm

Duty281 wrote:The media pressure on Marler has worked!

Nonsense, Marlers cheat technique is being rightly penalised. About time too!
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Post by Guest Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:15 pm

Cole should be binned for taking out Foley.

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Post by RDW Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:15 pm

Foley tackled off the ball while trying to re-gather the ball?

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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:16 pm

rapidsnowman wrote:Don't think any of these Australians would get in the England team.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:16 pm

Clear deliberate knock-on, not given.

Give it up, England.

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Post by protea438 Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:17 pm

Cant understand the booing, the guy was trying for an intercept. I always wondered if Northern Hemisphere crowds know the rules. But good singing though (although they could do with some variety).


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Post by nathan Sat 03 Oct 2015, 9:17 pm

Ou are having a fuxking laugh, so he knocked it on then did a Hollywood dive

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