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Post by George Carlin Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:11 am

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ENGLAND v AUSTRALIA
3 October 2015
KO: 20:00
Twickenham, London

Live on [tbc]

Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Touch judges: George Clancy (Ireland) & Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Television match official: Shaun Veldsman (South Africa)

A. Head to Head

43 Played 43
18 Won 24
1 Drawn 1
24 Lost 18
661 Points 907

B. Recent Form

29 November 2014
Twickenham, London
26 – 17 to England

2 November 2013
Twickenham, London
20 – 13 to England

17 November 2012
Twickenham, London
14 – 20 to Australia

13 November 2010
Twickenham, London
35 – 18 to England

19 June 2010
Telstra Stadium, Sydney
20 – 21 to England

12 June 2010
Subiaco Oval, Perth
27 – 17 to Australia

7 November 2009
Twickenham, London
9 – 18 to Australia

15 November 2008
Twickenham, London
14 – 28 to Australia

6 October 2007
Stade Vélodrome, Marseille, France
10 – 12 to England

C. Teams

ENGLAND
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15. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 41 caps)
14. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 13 caps)
13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 14 caps)
12. Brad Barritt (Saracens, 25 caps)
11. Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 18 caps)
10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 33 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 51 caps)

1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 35 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 26 caps)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 54 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 26 caps)
5. Geoff Parling (Exeter Chiefs, 27 caps)
6. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 40 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (captain, Harlequins, 41 caps)
8. Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 30 caps)

16. Rob Webber (Bath Rugby, 15 caps)
17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 25 caps)
18. Kieran Brookes (Northampton Saints, 14 caps)
19. George Kruis (Saracens, 8 caps)
20. Nick Easter (Harlequins, 52 caps)
21. Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 25 caps)
22. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 15 caps)
23. Sam Burgess (Bath Rugby, 4 caps)

AUSTRALIA
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1. Scott Sio (12 Tests)
2. Stephen Moore (c) (97 Tests)
3. Sekope Kepu (58 Tests)
4. Kane Douglas (18 Tests)
5. Rob Simmons (55 Tests)
6. Scott Fardy (25 Tests)
7. Michael Hooper (vc) (47 Tests)
8. David Pocock (51 Tests)

9. Will Genia (61 Tests)
10. Bernard Foley (22 Tests)
11. Rob Horne (28 Tests)
12. Matt Giteau (97 Tests)
13. Tevita Kuridrani (25 Tests)
14. Adam Ashley-Cooper (vc) (109 Tests)
15. Israel Folau (34 Tests)

*Reserves to be confirmed


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Post by Pal Joey Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:44 pm

Absolutely smashing it in the scrums.

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Post by BamBam Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:44 pm

nathan wrote:Could wiggleworths shout any louder that he was taken out!

Or be any squeakier

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Post by nathan Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:45 pm

Hinging and they get away with it

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Post by Fernando Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:45 pm

13-26 super dooper over now. Fans going home don't blame them it's a bugger to get a train Laugh

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:46 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:I don't think England should exit this tournament feeling unlucky. We just haven't been good enough.

Very true but we looked better with Ford at 10, like we did during the 6. Nations!!!!
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:46 pm

nathan wrote:Love the contribution from most of the welsh. this thread

I love reading your contributions. Pity after today we're not going to hear much from you...

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Post by kunu Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:46 pm

Feel sorry for the English. Australia definitely the better team, but can't help feeling the pressure of the occasion has gotten to England. Prior to kickoff, Theres no more pressure a team could have been under. Commentators just said England going out in the group stages will cost the English economy 3 billion pounds. That sort of stuff is mental
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Post by RDW Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:46 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The Hooper one which was worse doesn't even go to the TMO but that gets a yellow card, sorry Poite but you've had a shocker.

Agree that Hooper should have been yellowed

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Post by glamorganalun Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:46 pm

The football supporters are off, well done both teams I thought it could turn out to be a hammering in the first half. Another good game next weekend I hope.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:46 pm

I think we are all understating how good Oz are. They are by far the most impressive team so far.
NZ are unconvincing, SA beat (let's be honest) a second choice Scotland team, France have been no more than efficient. Ireland haven't really been tested so they could be a challenger

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Post by nathan Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:47 pm

Well done on making a great one yourself....

Why exactly won't you be hearing from me?

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Post by Shifty Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:47 pm

Their crushing England now, it's over.
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Post by Pal Joey Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:48 pm

C'mon!

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:48 pm

SL, A.Farrell and Rowntree please clear your desks out on Monday.

Well played Aus and good luck
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Post by Notch Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:48 pm

I've been tipping Australia to win this group, and I do believe they can win the whole thing IYA. If they play like they did when they beat New Zealand in the Rugby Championship they can beat anyone.
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Post by Duty281 Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:48 pm

Well...it's the end for Lancaster, surely.

Australia certainly been the better team, but they've had a little helping hand along the way - so much for home bias! Laugh

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

Here we go

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Post by BamBam Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

Ah well

Congrats LD, and any other Aussies

Just not good enough by any stretch of the imagination

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

Was that a prop or Burgess running there it's hard to tell?
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Post by Rugby Fan Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

I don't know how whether Australian players will be taking a break next season, but an early exit by England guarantees we'll have full strength touring squad in Australia next summer, whoever is in charge.

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Post by Fernando Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

13-31 - Aussie try

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

Yahoo

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

I don't think its to do with pressure. Australia have simply been better. That's partly due to a more skilled team, but also due to poor selection from England.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

Duty281 wrote:Knock-on was the first offence, though, or does that not matter?

Not sure it works that way. Consider a knock on first followed by a spear tackle. They wouldn't just let that slide. Foul play needs to be penalised regardless of the chain of events. Still a harsh yellow for me.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:49 pm

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Post by yappysnap Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:50 pm

Giteau down injured, yellow card, then try scorer. Class.

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Post by Shifty Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:50 pm

I'm glad Wales are now through, but I really feel sorry for you England guys. What you must be feeling now is horrible. Crying or Very sad
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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:50 pm

Notch wrote:I've been tipping Australia to win this group, and I do believe they can win the whole thing IYA. If they play like they did when they beat New Zealand in the Rugby Championship they can beat anyone.
Have you made a few quid at the bookies on the back of that hunch, Notch?

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:50 pm

Congratulations Australia. It's hard to take, but there's no question we have been second-best by some distance today.

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:50 pm

BamBam wrote:Ah well

Congrats LD, and any other Aussies

Just not good enough by any stretch of the imagination

Cheers BamBam and anyone else offering congratulations. Commiserations to you and all the England fans.

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Post by Fernando Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:51 pm

England 13 Aussies 33 FT

Pick up your P45 on the way out Stewie.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:51 pm

Heads have to roll no excuses, SCW what are you doing for the next 4 years?
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Post by glamorganalun Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:51 pm

Can t wait for the interview with M Brown

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Post by Shifty Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:52 pm

Oh god and Wales got them next week.... picard
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Post by Duty281 Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:52 pm

Blimey, that was even worse than the last World Cup!

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Post by Bathman_in_London Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:52 pm

Bye bye bomber, don't let your code of conduct hit you on the way out.

Australia have been really good tonight, well done to them, they will certainly fancy their chances in the knockouts.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:52 pm

Lancaster has well and truly screwed up, going into the tournament we had a threatening back line but in our two biggest games he's gone with the pedestrian Farrell instead of Ford who made that backline threatening. To top it all off he then persists with having Burgess on the bench, you need players who change a game like Slade coming on not a poor mans Brad Barritt. He has well and truly wilted under the pressure and I for one will be glad to see the back of him, absolute shambles from the management.

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Post by alfie Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:53 pm

Ah well. Aussies were just too good.

Can't be bothered laying blame on anyone in particular. But when the scrum doesn't dominate , England just aren't at the races.

Good luck Wales next week...and after.

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Post by kunu Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:53 pm

I actually thought poite was ok. The poite of old would have pinged England off the park in the scrums. In the first half he gave England the benefit of the doubt a fair bit.
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Post by donglewood Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:53 pm

Tell me again how WINNING AT HOME IS EASY!


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Post by protea438 Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:53 pm

If it was the other way around everyone will be screaming for a red.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:53 pm

Well, that was an enjoyable game to watch (and I genuinely say that without any anti-English bias whatsoever). Played at speed with no lack of skills shown.
The better team overall won but to be fair did get the 50/50's in their favour

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:53 pm

Aus won't win anything with Genia at 9, he slows them down so much. Strong team but 9 is a major weakness.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:53 pm

Aus can go all the way.


I haven't seen much of Foley but was very impressed by him.
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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:54 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Can t wait for the interview with M Brown

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:54 pm

Didn't think it would be that big a win so congrats Aus on a top
display.

England - genuine commiserations. I know Wales stand to gain from this, but I do feel for you. Awful feeling. Wished it was both of us going through Hug

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Post by donglewood Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:54 pm

I thought both Farrell and Barrett should've been put in the bin.

Farrell probably deserved a red.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:55 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Lancaster has well and truly screwed up, going into the tournament we had a threatening back line but in our two biggest games he's gone with the pedestrian Farrell instead of Ford who made that backline threatening. To top it all off he then persists with having Burgess on the bench, you need players who change a game like Slade coming on not a poor mans Brad Barritt. He has well and truly wilted under the pressure and I for one will be glad to see the back of him, absolute shambles from the management.

Agreed. I don't get his mindset - he played Ford through the autumn and the Six Nations, and against Fiji, but drops him for the two crucial games?

Then there was not picking Burrell over Burgess at the very beginning.

Terrible.

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Post by nathan Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:55 pm

Well done Australia, deserved win. Australia got the rub of the green and we just didn't execute well enough

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Post by Notch Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:55 pm

You know, I love watching this Aussie team and the comeback from the Welsh against all the odds last weekend was such an iconic RWC moment. But despite that its hard not to feel slightly gutted that we're not going to see the kind of atmosphere we had in Twickenham supporting the hosts. Any tournament like this really suffers when the host nation goes out early. It's the heart out of the tournament.

And the World Rugby accountants are also devastated.
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