Season 8 Homepage III

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:33 am

First topic message reminder :

Breaking News: Bath move off the foot of the table with their first win of the season, Sale & Quins remain unbeaten while Saints pick up a crucial win at the Madejeski.

Season 8 Homepage III - Page 12 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2014/2015 – London Wasps

2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Sale Sharks	7	5	2	0	192	171	21	20	12	3	0	27
2	Harlequins	7	5	2	0	189	169	20	17	11	0	0	24
3	London Irish	7	5	0	2	190	175	15	16	11	2	2	24
4	Northampton Saints	7	4	2	1	186	175	11	15	14	2	0	22
5	Newcastle Falcons	7	3	1	3	177	177	0	15	16	1	3	18
6	Leicester Tigers	7	3	0	4	174	179	-5	11	15	0	4	16
7	Worcester Warriors	7	3	0	4	174	185	-11	13	16	0	4	16
8	Saracens	7	2	1	4	177	174	3	14	12	1	4	15
9	Exeter Chiefs *	7	2	2	3	177	176	1	14	13	0	3	14
10	Gloucester *	7	2	0	5	167	189	-22	13	17	0	4	11
11	Bath Rugby	7	1	2	4	176	183	-7	13	16	0	4	11
12	London Wasps	7	1	0	6	156	182	-26	10	15	0	5	9

Links

Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage

Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Player Draft
Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

Round Bidding
There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.

Open Bidding
From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by prop_lyd Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:25 am

Yep you did kind sir! For that i will buy you a beer one day!

by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:50 am

Prop you are a visionary !!!!

by prop_lyd Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:06 am

First one in wales I think!

by Sgt_Pooly Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:25 pm

Haha....no bother, I was kind of regretting 10m anyway after watching him last week, I think you paid the right amount.

by Driver Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:48 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Dean Richards said " lots of my falcons players should be in England reckoning "

He then picked out mcguigan? Pooly and co is he right ??

Not seen game but a rotated Sarries is still a good side.

Great to see figallo back on form ie having games behind him. Still really young tight head wise and to go from universally best tight head in world a few years ago to struggling for bench was weird. Shows how hard th is to come back from injuries.

Another injury for him, corbs, Cole will be curtains in my view

He's Irish???

by Sgt_Pooly Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:02 pm

He's EQ as he's not played for the Wolfhounds yet, read rumours Munster are after him though.

by BamBam Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:58 pm

Has McGuigan been playing well then? Sorted his lineout throwing out?

by Sgt_Pooly Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:45 pm

BamBam wrote:Has McGuigan been playing well then? Sorted his lineout throwing out?

So so, he now just throws mis-throws in the opposition half

by BamBam Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:48 pm

Haha! Guess thats alright then .. well gives me another EQ option for the Challenge cup games, I've been treating him as Irish

by Guest Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:55 am

In the local press saying the faletau deal could go sour due to gatland.

If you could combine Denton and faletau you would have some player. He lacks carrying for me but has a great work rate.
In right side he could be very good. For Wales there is too
Much emphasis on him doing the carrying and he struggles when they are going back. He had a good World Cup but I have always had reservations about him as a player. Same with Denton who is a great carrier but like faletau not great going back and a bit lazy. Again had a great World Cup and a form player. When on form he takes some stopping and gives that go forward Scotland lack. Good player and maybe now getting consistency?

Makes a mockery of Salary cap.

Bath have

Thomas, Wilson, Webber, Attwood, Louw, Denton, Ford, Eastmond, Watson, Joseph all on massive salaries. They also have other players who are high earners

by Sgt_Pooly Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:47 am

I rate Faletau & Denton really highly (up with Billy V in UK & I as 8's) both class acts. Throw in Louw and thats a tasty backrow.

Getting Denton & Faletau in for Burgess & Fearns is some upgrade.

by Guest Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:59 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I rate Faletau & Denton really highly (up with Billy V in UK & I as 8's) both class acts. Throw in Louw and thats a tasty backrow.

Getting Denton & Faletau in for Burgess & Fearns is some upgrade.

Massive upgrade on those. Think faletau would make a better flanker. The salary cap is a nonsense. Rather we abandoned it

by Sgt_Pooly Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:12 am

I guess they can alternate, Faletau has a good all round game. Getting rid of the cap would condemn us I think.

I'd prefer a 14 team ring fenced AP so we can start bringing through the youth instead of overseas journeymen.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:46 pm

Saw a great breakdown of the salary cap on the main board yesterday.

For 2017/18 season:

Base Salary Cap - £7m
Home Grown Player Credits - £600k
Injury Dispensations - £400k
Two marquee players - £1m
Academy Allowance - £100k
EPS Player Credit - £80k per player
Permissable 5% overspend - £350k

Get 7 players in the EPS and you can spend £10m without being in breach of the cap.

by dammit_chris Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:59 pm

Salary cap baffles me, was the investigation pretty much dropped because Sarries and Bath threatened legal action under some EU laws that makes the salary cap effectively illegal or something?

Sounds as though Tigers are very close to being able to play de Villiers and Tuilagi as a midfield combination, with both starting full training this week. Didn't think they'd do very well this year, but some of the signings they have made have been excellent - the new fb they have has been very impressive (Samoan or Fijian guy).

by Fluxy Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:07 pm

Isn;t he Tongan? Veianu or something like that, he has looked very good.

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:25 am

How do you stop pop ups on iPhone? It's insane

by BamBam Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:55 am

Download an app called crystal Pooly

by LukeLovesLuka Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:07 am

Worked so well for me, cheers thumbsup

by BamBam Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:18 am

No problem Luke, its excellent

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:20 am

Downloaded Adblock but it's using a VPN which is a bit strange. Might try that crystal, not happy about 79p though

by BamBam Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:22 am

Spoken like a true Northerner Run

by Sgt_Pooly Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:35 am

Haha, cheeky! Just been hit with a £6k NI bill so that 79p will go a long way

by Guest Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:11 am

Best 79 p I have spent. Works like a charm. Followed luke and bought it the other week.

It's 79p more than I would ever pay to watch Bath !! It's also 79p more than I would pay humphries at Gloucester. His philosophy and justification for our signings are mental. Afoa and Hibbard have been failures for us and apparently the reason is that we have zero discipline of players at the club. It's a player driven environment.

When Hibbard was a young lad he had a terrible time at Ospreys and was out drinking all the time. Friends of mine there said he would roll up drunk to train with Evans and other players. Then Ospreys changed he became a top player and a lion etc. Apparently the drink culture at Glos is terrible again and Hibbard Afoa trinder Atkinson sharpies and stooke been in some silly incidents recently.

Not seen today's game as away on holiday but don't understand why we pick a second string to play wuss in euros

by Guest Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:34 am

BamBam wrote:Spoken like a true Northerner

In his day 79 p meant a lot. You could have tea and still
Have change for a pint ( in a Geoff boycott style voice )

by BamBam Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:38 pm

Corbs to take sabbatical

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12321/10098715/england-prop-alex-corbisiero-to-take-year-break-from-rugby

by LukeLovesLuka Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:01 pm

Let's hope it does him good.

Anyone got a LH available Whistle

by dammit_chris Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:13 am

All the England coaches sacked as well - progress!

Should be a good thing for Corbs in the long-run - you're so unlucky with players Luke, how many is that now!?

by Guest Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:33 am

dammit_chris wrote:All the England coaches sacked as well - progress!

Should be a good thing for Corbs in the long-run - you're so unlucky with players Luke, how many is that now!?

The times today did a great article on why the England coaches should be sacked.it pointed out how Row entree has presided over us failing in first test for lions vs Sa when beast dismantled vickery, presided over marker getting obliterated vs Wales In 6n decider and presided over our scrum getting pummelled in the World Cup.

Article also said robshaw parling Webber Cole wood marler youngs x2 etc all need to prom themselves as nine of them have ever been consistently good at int level. All been up and down.

Final article in times was interview with corbs re his year out. Fascinating stuff he is a bright lad. He talked of how punishing mentally our game is. Pointed out how nfl has much bigger off season and how contact limited outside if games. Great player welfare piece which is a real issue with the nh

by Sgt_Pooly Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:15 am

Will Corbisiero ever play again?

Gustard & Borthwick offered deals apparently. Backs coach rumoured to be Alex King?? I'm not seeing the thinking in that one, he's done nothing with the Saints backline since joining up.

by Driver Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:06 am

I've read Jones will coach the Attack/Backs.

He's not looking for a backs coach as much as he is a skills coach.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:30 am

Conditions and opposition will be up tomorrow for this weeks thread. Might get to results tonight if not they will be up tomorrow

by BamBam Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:06 pm

Quiet on here!

Now being reported that Alex King will be backs/skills coach for England, with Jones maintaining responsibility for the attack

by BamBam Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:07 pm

Team of the week

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/team-of-the-week-champions-cup-9/

by Sgt_Pooly Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:17 pm

BamBam wrote:Quiet on here!

Now being reported that Alex King will be backs/skills coach for England, with Jones maintaining responsibility for the attack

Can't say I'm overly happy with that judging by his performance with Saints.

by dammit_chris Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:49 pm

That would be a great appointment, he's got great experience with 6 years at Clermont - Saints aren't having a great start to the season, but King is an excellent coach and very highly regarded throughout Europe - only guy I'd like more is Aaron Mauger at Tigers.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:17 pm

He's done nothing of note with the Saints backline, I'd have preferred the guy at Exeter.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:27 am

Conditions and opposition are up.

King had a great reputation at Clermont but same as Pooly not been overly impressed with Saints under his watch. Reading its more of a skills coach role then an attacking/backs coach? Jones wants to get hands on with the attack himself

by Fluxy Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:10 am

So Borthwick is confirmed as forwards coach for England.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:05 am

Assistant and forwards coach alongside Gustard(yet to be confirmed.

Coach: Jones
Assistant: Borthwick
Forwards: Borthwick & Gustard (Borthwick lineout)
Defence: Gustard
Attack: Jones
Skills: King

I think that's the make-up, talk of a designated scrum coach also.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:40 am

Bristol not happy.....that's a shame.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/15/bristol-legal-action-steve-borthwick-england-job

by BamBam Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:25 am

Hartley could be named England captain

by Sgt_Pooly Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:46 pm

That would make sense, Jones is apparently a fan.

by Sgt_Pooly Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:48 pm

Bristol looking a bit silly with this drama over Borthwick

by BamBam Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:48 pm

I reckon it could be with a view to a younger captain taking over in a couple of years, Launchbury/Itoje or someone else.

Hartley will be 34 by the next world cup, you'd hope one of the younger guys would come through at hooker over the next season or so

by BamBam Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:49 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Bristol looking a bit silly with this drama over Borthwick

Looking like utter bellends if they're apparently asking for millions

by Sgt_Pooly Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:57 pm

BamBam wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Bristol looking a bit silly with this drama over Borthwick

Looking like utter bellends if they're apparently asking for millions

RFU right to stand their ground. They've apparently been negotiating for weeks and have offered 600k (salary 250k). Bristol claiming potential loss of revenue from the AP from one coach???

I like the citing of "their many EQ players" when less than half their squad are EQ, worse than any AP team.

by Steven_Sharks Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:28 am

I'm going to struggle to predict this weekend.

by LukeLovesLuka Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:16 am

Off skiing for a week Saturday. Will try and do scores.

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:32 am

Wasps looking good, they've ruined the Bath scrum.

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