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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 10 Feb 2016, 2:51 pm

With Warburton, I can only conclude that they like him as captain because of how he deals with referees. He's very respectful towards them.

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 2:53 pm

wayne wrote:
PhilBB wrote:Does anybody believe this 'One True Region' nonsense?

It's 67% owned by the chaps who owned Swansea RFC in 2003.
Phil for as long as it keeps winding up one man in particular and many others it seems, I'm really happy for the ONE TRUE REGION to carry on Smile

Collosal hypocrisy from you given your feelings about LIARS
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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 2:55 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:With Warburton, I can only conclude that they like him as captain because of how he deals with referees. He's very respectful towards them.
Yeh Gatland came out with that gem when he made him captain, what exactly has it gained us?

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 10 Feb 2016, 3:03 pm

Well we have won a fair bit while he's been captain. I'm not saying we've been successful because he's been captain, but you have to admit he's very good with referees. Alun Wyn is more confrontational (for want of a better word).

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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 3:24 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Well we have won a fair bit while he's been captain. I'm not saying we've been successful because he's been captain, but you have to admit he's very good with referees. Alun Wyn is more confrontational (for want of a better word).
Yes he does appear to have a good rapport with referees, but what decisions have been changed because of this stance, I don't believe I've ever seen any, as for AWJ being confrontational, possibly, but so were M Johnson and even POC, and Richie McCaw was nothing like WRUburton in his attitude to them. As for winning a fair bit, yes, I wonder what their records are like when captaining Wales? Genuinely don't know.
Taking my obvious bias into account, I know who I'd rather follow onto a pitch.

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 3:30 pm

wayne wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Well we have won a fair bit while he's been captain. I'm not saying we've been successful because he's been captain, but you have to admit he's very good with referees. Alun Wyn is more confrontational (for want of a better word).
Yes he does appear to have a good rapport with referees, but what decisions have been changed because of this stance, I don't believe I've ever seen any, as for AWJ being confrontational, possibly, but so were M Johnson and even POC, and Richie McCaw was nothing like WRUburton in his attitude to them. As for winning a fair bit, yes, I wonder what their records are like when captaining Wales? Genuinely don't know.
Taking my obvious bias into account, I know who I'd rather follow onto a pitch.

Dan Evans?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 10 Feb 2016, 3:31 pm

Laugh

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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 3:41 pm

wayne wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Well we have won a fair bit while he's been captain. I'm not saying we've been successful because he's been captain, but you have to admit he's very good with referees. Alun Wyn is more confrontational (for want of a better word).
Yes he does appear to have a good rapport with referees, but what decisions have been changed because of this stance, I don't believe I've ever seen any, as for AWJ being confrontational, possibly, but so were M Johnson and even POC, and Richie McCaw was nothing like WRUburton in his attitude to them. As for winning a fair bit, yes, I wonder what their records are like when captaining Wales? Genuinely don't know.
Taking my obvious bias into account, I know who I'd rather follow onto a pitch.
Just looked it up Sam W  P22 W9 L13, AWJ P1 W1, don't think it is up to date though, so perhaps a bit unfair to judge on that.

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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 3:56 pm

Just to fuel the superiority argument, the last player to captain Wales from the Dragons area was Michael Owen, and basically he wasn't a Dragon because he had only just left the Celtic Warriors, but the real plaudits for his being captain are with Pontypridd and the fact he was only captain because Gareth (Alfie) Thomas was injured. You have to go back years to your now esteemed coach Kingsley Jones who captained Wales the massive number of one. Since Michael Owen captained Wales, 3 Ospreys have.
You really don't have to think very hard to realise if you want to get on in Welsh Rugby, you need to move in a westerly direction.

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:20 pm

wayne wrote:Just to fuel the superiority argument, the last player to captain Wales from the Dragons area was Michael Owen, and basically he wasn't a Dragon because he had only just left the Celtic Warriors, but the real plaudits for his being captain are with Pontypridd and the fact he was only captain because Gareth (Alfie) Thomas was injured. You have to go back years to your now esteemed coach Kingsley Jones who captained Wales the massive number of one. Since Michael Owen captained Wales, 3 Ospreys have.
You really don't have to think very hard to realise if you want to get on in Welsh Rugby, you need to move in a westerly direction.

Right. So that drivel you wrote about Ryan Jones last night was more hypocrisy then.
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Post by RiscaGame Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:22 pm

That was definitely worth your time typing. Great read, many thanks.

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Post by PhilBB Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:23 pm

wayne wrote:Just to fuel the superiority argument, the last player to captain Wales from the Dragons area was Michael Owen, and basically he wasn't a Dragon because he had only just left the Celtic Warriors, but the real plaudits for his being captain are with Pontypridd and the fact he was only captain because Gareth (Alfie) Thomas was injured. You have to go back years to your now esteemed coach Kingsley Jones who captained Wales the massive number of one. Since Michael Owen captained Wales, 3 Ospreys have.
You really don't have to think very hard to realise if you want to get on in Welsh Rugby, you need to move in a westerly direction.

Which NGD players, since Owen, should have captained Wales?

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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm

PhilBB wrote:
wayne wrote:Just to fuel the superiority argument, the last player to captain Wales from the Dragons area was Michael Owen, and basically he wasn't a Dragon because he had only just left the Celtic Warriors, but the real plaudits for his being captain are with Pontypridd and the fact he was only captain because Gareth (Alfie) Thomas was injured. You have to go back years to your now esteemed coach Kingsley Jones who captained Wales the massive number of one. Since Michael Owen captained Wales, 3 Ospreys have.
You really don't have to think very hard to realise if you want to get on in Welsh Rugby, you need to move in a westerly direction.

Which NGD players, since Owen, should have captained Wales?

Better still, you have to go back to 1984, remember that date? Spikey Watkins was the last proper Captain of Wales whist playing in that area, and even then it was only for 4 games.

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Post by RiscaGame Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:33 pm

See Robin Davey seems to be backtracking and now thinks Amos is now staying down Rodney Road

7 hours ago - Twitter
Am assured Hallam Amos is happy at NGD, is under contract for 2 yrs after this, is going nowhere and WRU/WG wld not direct him anywhere else

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Post by PhilBB Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:34 pm

RiscaGame wrote:See Robin Davey seems to be backtracking and now thinks Amos is now staying down Rodney Road

7 hours ago - Twitter
Am assured Hallam Amos is happy at NGD, is under contract for 2 yrs after this, is going nowhere and WRU/WG wld not direct him anywhere else

Or he means that Morgan is off.
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Post by RiscaGame Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:37 pm

Well, I am pretty certain that is happening. But apparently he said Amos was off too.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:58 pm

wayne wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
wayne wrote:Just to fuel the superiority argument, the last player to captain Wales from the Dragons area was Michael Owen, and basically he wasn't a Dragon because he had only just left the Celtic Warriors, but the real plaudits for his being captain are with Pontypridd and the fact he was only captain because Gareth (Alfie) Thomas was injured. You have to go back years to your now esteemed coach Kingsley Jones who captained Wales the massive number of one. Since Michael Owen captained Wales, 3 Ospreys have.
You really don't have to think very hard to realise if you want to get on in Welsh Rugby, you need to move in a westerly direction.

Which NGD players, since Owen, should have captained Wales?

Better still, you have to go back to 1984, remember that date? Spikey Watkins was the last proper Captain of Wales whist playing in that area, and even then it was only for 4 games.

Owen captained the Lions as well mind Wink
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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:59 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:Just to fuel the superiority argument, the last player to captain Wales from the Dragons area was Michael Owen, and basically he wasn't a Dragon because he had only just left the Celtic Warriors, but the real plaudits for his being captain are with Pontypridd and the fact he was only captain because Gareth (Alfie) Thomas was injured. You have to go back years to your now esteemed coach Kingsley Jones who captained Wales the massive number of one. Since Michael Owen captained Wales, 3 Ospreys have.
You really don't have to think very hard to realise if you want to get on in Welsh Rugby, you need to move in a westerly direction.

Right. So that drivel you wrote about Ryan Jones last night was more hypocrisy then.
So at least you've recognised the monumental error for first of all letting him go and then with at least 2 seperate opportunities to get him back, either you didn't try very hard or he came to the obvious conclusion that his best interests lie in moving in a westerly direction, just to let everybody know Ryan Jones started his first class Rugby career with Newport RFC, he played one game, (that's right 1) against Bridgend RFC and then the only team to see the promise was the team he played against Bridgend RFC where he signed for at the end of that season, when Regional Rugby came along even though he was a Gwent boy he stayed within the area he was at by signing for Celtic Warriors, another opportunity arose for the area he originated when the following season they disbanded and there was an open shop for all the other teams left to come in for former CW players, did NWG come in? Who knows, probably they did but so did another Region further west (see where this going) the rest is History, he knew his best interests lay in that direction.
To be quite honest nothing has really changed has it, Lydiate when he came back he didn't want to end up there for numerous reasons, Faletau is off and when he comes back, unless he's in his dottage will go anywhere bar there.
Let's ask this question, what player that has played West of NGD has made a conscious decision to come there has had the effect of Ryan Jones not only in Regional Rugby but for the National .Team as well

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 6:58 pm

wayne wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:Just to fuel the superiority argument, the last player to captain Wales from the Dragons area was Michael Owen, and basically he wasn't a Dragon because he had only just left the Celtic Warriors, but the real plaudits for his being captain are with Pontypridd and the fact he was only captain because Gareth (Alfie) Thomas was injured. You have to go back years to your now esteemed coach Kingsley Jones who captained Wales the massive number of one. Since Michael Owen captained Wales, 3 Ospreys have.
You really don't have to think very hard to realise if you want to get on in Welsh Rugby, you need to move in a westerly direction.

Right. So that drivel you wrote about Ryan Jones last night was more hypocrisy then.
So at least you've recognised the monumental error for first of all letting him go and then with at least 2 seperate opportunities to get him back, either you didn't try very hard or he came to the obvious conclusion that his best interests lie in moving in a westerly direction, just to let everybody know Ryan Jones started his first class Rugby career with Newport RFC, he played one game, (that's right 1) against Bridgend RFC and then the only team to see the promise was the team he played against Bridgend RFC where he signed for at the end of that season, when Regional Rugby came along even though he was a Gwent boy he stayed within the area he was at by signing for Celtic Warriors, another opportunity arose for the area he originated when the following season they disbanded and there was an open shop for all the other teams left to come in for former CW players, did NWG come in? Who knows, probably they did but so did another Region further west (see where this going) the rest is History, he knew his best interests lay in that direction.
To be quite honest nothing has really changed has it, Lydiate when he came back he didn't want to end up there for numerous reasons, Faletau is off and when he comes back, unless he's in his dottage will go anywhere bar there.
Let's ask this question, what player that has played West of NGD has made a conscious decision to come there has had the effect of Ryan Jones not only in Regional Rugby but for the National .Team as well

Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
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Post by RiscaGame Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:11 pm

Fair laughing

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:25 pm

Why's the Connacht game on a Thursday?

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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:27 pm


Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just  and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
Now who's getting angry? Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?

WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you get a decent education and then come back boy

What is "drivel" about that article regarding Ryan?
I'll answer for you, Nothing
As an organisation you haven't moved on since before the Millenium, as recent events portray

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:34 pm

wayne wrote:

Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just  and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
Now who's getting angry? Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?

WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you get a decent education and then come back boy

What is drivel about that article regarding Ryan?
I'll answer for you, Nothing
As an organisation you haven't moved on since before the Millenium, as recent events portray

I'm not angry, I'm bored of your twaddle. Unlike you, I have more post grad qualifications than Dan Evans has Welsh caps, and tuning in to another barrage of your witless, illiterate, illogical, fatasist, farts-higher-than-his-own-4rse attempts to make some nebulous and vapid point that only you in the entire world care about, is getting a little old.
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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:38 pm

I mean you'd think he'd be embarrassed coming on here giving it large about the Ospreys, given the ownership info noted above confirms that the NGD are 17% more regional than the One True Region.
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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:42 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:

Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just  and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
Now who's getting angry? Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?

WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you get a decent education and then come back boy

What is drivel about that article regarding Ryan?
I'll answer for you, Nothing
As an organisation you haven't moved on since before the Millenium, as recent events portray

I'm not angry, I'm bored of your twaddle. Unlike you, I have more post grad qualifications than Dan Evans has Welsh caps, and tuning in to another barrage of your witless, illiterate, illogical, fatasist, farts-higher-than-his-own-4rse attempts to make some nebulous and vapid point that only you in the entire world care about, is getting a little old.
So in other words you've lost the argument, by not being able to counter so you have to go back to your normal abode, make sure you put the lid back down when you've flushed.

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:45 pm

wayne wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:

Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just  and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
Now who's getting angry? Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?

WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you get a decent education and then come back boy

What is drivel about that article regarding Ryan?
I'll answer for you, Nothing
As an organisation you haven't moved on since before the Millenium, as recent events portray

I'm not angry, I'm bored of your twaddle. Unlike you, I have more post grad qualifications than Dan Evans has Welsh caps, and tuning in to another barrage of your witless, illiterate, illogical, fatasist, farts-higher-than-his-own-4rse attempts to make some nebulous and vapid point that only you in the entire world care about, is getting a little old.
So in other words you've lost the argument, by not being able to counter so you have to go back to your normal abode, make sure you put the lid back down when you've flushed.

I can't even tell what language your 'argument' is meant to be written in, let alone what point it is you're trying so poorly to prove. My three year old would write more coherent points on his Innotab.


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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:46 pm

Stone Motif wrote:I mean you'd think he'd be embarrassed coming on here giving it large about the Ospreys, given the ownership info noted above confirms that the NGD are 17% more regional than the One True Region.

16.666% recurring, isn't it?

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:50 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:I mean you'd think he'd be embarrassed coming on here giving it large about the Ospreys, given the ownership info noted above confirms that the NGD are 17% more regional than the One True Region.

16.666% recurring, isn't it?

I stand corrected.
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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 7:52 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:

Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just  and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
Now who's getting angry? Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?

WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you get a decent education and then come back boy

What is drivel about that article regarding Ryan?
I'll answer for you, Nothing
As an organisation you haven't moved on since before the Millenium, as recent events portray

I'm not angry, I'm bored of your twaddle. Unlike you, I have more post grad qualifications than Dan Evans has Welsh caps, and tuning in to another barrage of your witless, illiterate, illogical, fatasist, farts-higher-than-his-own-4rse attempts to make some nebulous and vapid point that only you in the entire world care about, is getting a little old.
So in other words you've lost the argument, by not being able to counter so you have to go back to your normal abode, make sure you put the lid back down when you've flushed.

I can't even tell what language your 'argument' is meant to be written in, let alone what point it is you're trying so poorly to prove. My three year old would write more coherent points on his Innotab.
Let's really hope he is more coherent than you then, but that wont be hard, you even had to edit your last post to get your reply in.

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Post by RiscaGame Wed 10 Feb 2016, 8:28 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:Why's the Connacht game on a Thursday?

Who doesn't love a Thursday night?

I think they don't want to clash with the U20s tomorrow and have three games on top of each other also (County home Sat, Newport Sun).

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 Feb 2016, 8:34 pm

wayne wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:

Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just  and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
Now who's getting angry? Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?

WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you get a decent education and then come back boy

What is drivel about that article regarding Ryan?
I'll answer for you, Nothing
As an organisation you haven't moved on since before the Millenium, as recent events portray

I'm not angry, I'm bored of your twaddle. Unlike you, I have more post grad qualifications than Dan Evans has Welsh caps, and tuning in to another barrage of your witless, illiterate, illogical, fatasist, farts-higher-than-his-own-4rse attempts to make some nebulous and vapid point that only you in the entire world care about, is getting aț little old.
So in other words you've lost the argument, by not being able to counter so you have to go back to your normal abode, make sure you put the lid back down when you've flushed.

I can't even tell what language your 'argument' is meant to be written in, let alone what point it is you're trying so poorly to prove. My three year old would write more coherent points on his Innotab.
Let's really hope he is more coherent than you then, but that wont be hard, you even had to edit your last post to get your reply in.
So what, you daft old sod?
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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 10 Feb 2016, 8:39 pm

RiscaGame wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:Why's the Connacht game on a Thursday?

Who doesn't love a Thursday night?

I think they don't want to clash with the U20s tomorrow and have three games on top of each other also (County home Sat, Newport Sun).

Who's "they"?

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Post by wayne Wed 10 Feb 2016, 8:48 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
wayne wrote:

Let's ask this question instead. Why don't you just  and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?
Now who's getting angry? Why don't you just and write those drivel on on a toilet wall where it belongs Wayne?

WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you get a decent education and then come back boy

What is drivel about that article regarding Ryan?
I'll answer for you, Nothing
As an organisation you haven't moved on since before the Millenium, as recent events portray

I'm not angry, I'm bored of your twaddle. Unlike you, I have more post grad qualifications than Dan Evans has Welsh caps, and tuning in to another barrage of your witless, illiterate, illogical, fatasist, farts-higher-than-his-own-4rse attempts to make some nebulous and vapid point that only you in the entire world care about, is getting aț little old.
So in other words you've lost the argument, by not being able to counter so you have to go back to your normal abode, make sure you put the lid back down when you've flushed.

I can't even tell what language your 'argument' is meant to be written in, let alone what point it is you're trying so poorly to prove. My three year old would write more coherent points on his Innotab.
Let's really hope he is more coherent than you then, but that wont be hard, you even had to edit your last post to get your reply in.
So what, you daft old sod?
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Post by RiscaGame Wed 10 Feb 2016, 8:48 pm

The board. I meant clash with the under 20s on Friday too.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 10 Feb 2016, 8:58 pm

Stone and Wayne. Stop. Or I'll just ban you both for a couple days so everyone else can have some peace.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 10 Feb 2016, 8:59 pm

RiscaGame wrote:The board. I meant clash with the under 20s on Friday too.

Probably down to tv though isn't it?

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Post by RiscaGame Wed 10 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm

We aren't on tv, as far as I'm aware.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 10 Feb 2016, 11:09 pm

RiscaGame wrote:We aren't on tv, as far as I'm aware.

Pobol y Cwm instead, i'm afraid to say. There we are.

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Post by PhilBB Thu 11 Feb 2016, 8:15 am

The NGD chose to play this Thursday.
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Post by munkian Thu 11 Feb 2016, 8:49 am

PhilBB wrote:The NGD chose to play this Thursday.

Source ?
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Post by RiscaGame Thu 11 Feb 2016, 1:11 pm

Skybet have us slight favourites tonight. Pretty shocked by that. I'd have thought Connacht would be heavy favourites.

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu 11 Feb 2016, 1:17 pm

munkian wrote:
PhilBB wrote:The NGD chose to play this Thursday.

Source ?

Robin Davey's Twitter?

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Post by VinceWLB Thu 11 Feb 2016, 1:18 pm

If you play like you did against Ulster, you should win, imo. Be worried about the Connacht's front 5 they mullered Scarlets. You will need another strong game from the likes of Brok Harris and Landman (hopefully he doesn't get red carded this time steam ).

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Post by RiscaGame Thu 11 Feb 2016, 1:24 pm

Yep, bit disappointed we didn't start Boris to try matching their pack more.


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Post by GavinDragon Thu 11 Feb 2016, 1:27 pm

I have actually been impressed by Phil Price's scrummaging which is much improved this season. Only in one or two games can I remember him being mullered

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu 11 Feb 2016, 1:29 pm

GavinDragon wrote:I have actually been impressed by Phil Price's scrummaging which is much improved this season. Only in one or two games can I remember him being mullered

He's been mullered in all matches at least once. I'm worried about LH next year seeing as Stanko is rumoured to be off (no it isn't from Davey's twitter before the two boneheads ask).

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Post by PhilBB Thu 11 Feb 2016, 4:16 pm

munkian wrote:
PhilBB wrote:The NGD chose to play this Thursday.

Source ?

Chris Kirwan.
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Post by PhilBB Thu 11 Feb 2016, 4:16 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:I didn't take Davey's word as gospel, I never have done. That's PhillBB's job.

You do love telling lies, don't you?
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Post by GavinDragon Thu 11 Feb 2016, 4:28 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:I have actually been impressed by Phil Price's scrummaging which is much improved this season. Only in one or two games can I remember him being mullered

He's been mullered in all matches at least once. I'm worried about LH next year seeing as Stanko is rumoured to be off (no it isn't from Davey's twitter before the two boneheads ask).

Compared to previous seasons he has been much improved. Stankovic, while an awesome scrummager, is clearly winding down for retirement and is quite a liability in the loose after 30 mins.

Underwhelmed by our rumoured signing of hobbs.


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Post by PhilBB Thu 11 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm

GavinDragon wrote:

Underwhelmed by our rumoured signing of hobbs.


Why? He'll be significantly better than anything presently in the squad.
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