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Post by George Carlin Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:48 pm

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ENGLAND v WALES
12 March 2016
KO: 16:00 GMT
Twickenham, London

Live on ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)

Referee: Craig Joubert (South Africa)
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:46 pm

This decision by TMO is hilarious.

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Post by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:46 pm

kingelderfield wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Get George Ford off the pitch. Going to cost us the game.

Needs to sharpen his game. Reconsider his kicking from hand (not referring to the charge down but his cross kicking 'attack' plays).

He is a ball in hand player and understanding how best to exploit that game will determine his future.

Great shame the moment we bring on an attacking IC that we take off our attacking ball in hand 10.

Ultimately Farrells game will not unlock SH defences.

Ultimately though Fords game is so iffy I have palpatations every time he gets the ball. His decision making looks poor or totally lacking in confidence what to do.

Farrell is solid and in games like this id prefer that for the moment.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:47 pm

This kiwi official is in NZ right?

Tidily winks what what

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Post by wales606 Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:47 pm

Should have been a red card
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:47 pm

Just sums up England 16th and now 17th man for the evening. Well done England.

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Post by RDW Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:48 pm

Joubert bottling that decision - leaving it to the TMO

Seemed unintentional though!

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Post by nathan Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:48 pm

Should of been yellow at least

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Post by nathan Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:48 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Just sums up England 16th and now 17th man for the evening. Well done England.
Lol

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:48 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Just sums up England 16th and now 17th man for the evening. Well done England.

I'm sure if that was Hartley you'd have had a different opinion....
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Post by VinceWLB Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:49 pm

LOL what has rugby become? you can bet your house this wouldn't even have been checked by the TMO if it was an English fool play. Brown got let off for foot in the face area and now this?

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Post by nathan Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:50 pm

Some of you Welsh fans spend all week begging Wales up and when they are losing its because of the ref. Have a word with yourselves

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Post by nathan Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:50 pm

Why isn't Danny care sprinting there!!

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Post by JDizzle Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:50 pm

Not one mention of Marler punching Evans, yet a penalty and the threat of more for what looked accidental by Francis.

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Post by Shifty Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:50 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Naughty boy Cole but he can't complain.
Hartley should of been carded in the earlier phase, that was blatant in from the side.

Doesn't matter now though, Wales have been awful over all, England are deserved winners, best of luck to them for the Grand Slam. No issues with Joubert for me, this wasn't a game decided by a referee, it was one team dominating another. At least that makes a change.

At least we got a consolation try, 2 more tries in 6 minutes is too much I think.
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Post by kingelderfield Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:50 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
kingelderfield wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Get George Ford off the pitch. Going to cost us the game.

Needs to sharpen his game. Reconsider his kicking from hand (not referring to the charge down but his cross kicking 'attack' plays).

He is a ball in hand player and understanding how best to exploit that game will determine his future.

Great shame the moment we bring on an attacking IC that we take off our attacking ball in hand 10.

Ultimately Farrells game will not unlock SH defences.

Ultimately though Fords game is so iffy I have palpatations every time he gets the ball. His decision making looks poor or totally lacking in confidence what to do.

Farrell is solid and in games like this id prefer that for the moment.

Agree its a form thing and yes we should have the point of difference from Farrell on the bench.

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:50 pm

North out.

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Post by nathan Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:50 pm

Ah let him off

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Post by nathan Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:51 pm

Shifty wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:Naughty boy Cole but he can't complain.
Hartley should of been carded in the earlier phase, that was blatant in from the side.

Doesn't matter now though, Wales have been awful over all, England are deserved winners, best of luck to them for the Grand Slam.  No issues with Joubert for me, this wasn't a game decided by a referee, it was one team dominating another.  At least that makes a change.  

At least we got a consolation try, 2 more tries in 6 minutes is too much I think.
No he shouldn't have , the ball was out

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:51 pm

JDizzle wrote:Not one mention of Marler punching Evans, yet a penalty and the threat of more for what looked accidental by Francis.

Yes. Clear striking.

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

Madge?

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Post by Shifty Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

oh ok... Shocked
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Post by wales606 Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

WHAT IS HAPPENING!

Wales have woken up apparenty
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Post by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

Are you kidding me????

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

3 tries to 1. If England do win this, it will have to be because of the refereeing :P

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

Oh My God!
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Post by True Raven Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

Fuming, webbs passing is perfect and straight from the ruck.  Should have been on sooner!  Gives us space in the backline


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Post by kingelderfield Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:54 pm

England switched off 20 minutes back

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:54 pm

VinceWLB wrote:3 tries to 1. If England do win this, it will have to be because of the refereeing :P

Make that 3-2
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Post by Shifty Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:55 pm

wales606 wrote:WHAT IS HAPPENING!

Wales have woken up apparenty

Well I told you that would happen at half time, were not totally useless, were just really lazy in the first half.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:56 pm

Wasn't in touch IMO (unsurprisingly).

Well done England and Joubert. Now go get the slam.


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Post by wales606 Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:56 pm

Wales actually played for about 10 minutes of that game
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Post by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:57 pm

Good stuff,but it should not have been like that.

Well done wales for the comeback!

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:57 pm

Wales robbed.

Joubert should have been motm... LOL

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:57 pm

Good game though both sides will be frustrated.

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Post by BamBam Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:58 pm

Just shat my load in the last 10 mins, not a coincidence that Webb came on just before that

Well played Wales

Thank fk we held on for that

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:58 pm

Pot Hale wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:3 tries to 1. If England do win this, it will have to be because of the refereeing :P

Make that 3-2

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Post by True Raven Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:58 pm

Well done England, by far the better team. Score line flatters us

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:58 pm

Well England were lucky in the end. Another couple of minutes... Who knows.

Well done England. Triple Crown Winners.

Now all we need is for France to put 20 points on Scotland tomorrow to make the final round match interesting.
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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:58 pm

Please don't let that final what 5 minutes and the scoreline gloss over what was a shockingly poor performance for us for 70 odd minutes.

Something still needs to be done to our backroom staff.
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Post by True Raven Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

VinceWLB wrote:Wales robbed.

Joubert should have been motm... LOL

We were dreadful for 70 mins that's not jouberts fault

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

True Raven wrote:Well done England, by far the better team. Score line flatters us

clap clap clap
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

Olly wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Just sums up England 16th and now 17th man for the evening. Well done England.

I'm sure if that was Hartley you'd have had a different opinion....

I actually don't mind him. It's MM that hates him.

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Post by Shifty Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

Just need to congratulate the better team over the course of the game. Wales are developing a habit of doing little for most of the game and trying to explode inside 20 minutes to win.
Didn't work today, we didn't commit enough players to the rucks at times, our tackling and man marking was woeful on occasion.
Mike Brown and the England number 4, were outstanding today.
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Post by RiscaGame Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

wales606 wrote:Wales actually played for about 10 minutes of that game

True.

Congrats England. Well deserved. Big questions have to be asked about our coaching team after that, that should've been asked before today.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

Well that was some game. Well played to both England and Wales.

Must have been some seriously nervous English fans at the end there.

Good luck England and I hope you now win the slam.
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Post by wales606 Sat 12 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

BamBam wrote:Just shat my load in the last 10 mins, not a coincidence that Webb came on just before that


Agree, Webb should be back as first choice going forward.

Thought Preistland did well too tbh.
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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat 12 Mar 2016, 6:00 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Well England were lucky in the end. Another couple of minutes... Who knows.

Well done England.  Triple Crown Winners.

Now all we need is for France to put 20 points on Scotland tomorrow to make the final round match interesting.

If you play like that then France won't live with you no matter what the result tomorrow.
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Post by Duty281 Sat 12 Mar 2016, 6:00 pm

Well played England, excellent first half, but slacked off tremendously towards the end. A shame Wales didn't join in sooner, otherwise it could have been a great game.

Still think England will find it tough to win the slam - one amazing French performance at this Six Nations has yet to be delivered.

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Post by ALPanorak Sat 12 Mar 2016, 6:00 pm

Real exciting finish. Think Joubert dealt with the potential reckless 'eye contact' fairly well - it was a tough call (I don't think it was intentional but potentially dangerous/reckless).

Hopefully this serves as a lesson for England though to be more positive. Tries are decisive. They should have gone for the try instead of kicking at least a couple of those 2nd half penalties. Great kicking performance from Farrell nevertheless and beastly outing from Itoje too!

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 12 Mar 2016, 6:01 pm

True Raven wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:Wales robbed.

Joubert should have been motm... LOL

We were dreadful for 70 mins that's not jouberts fault

Agreed somewhat, Wales played better when they got the dreadful Gatland gameplan out of their mindset.

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