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Post by George Carlin Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:20 am

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AUSTRALIA v ENGLAND
11 June 2016
20:00 AEST (UTC+10)
Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Live on [tbc]

Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

44 Played 44
25 Won 18
1 Drawn 1
18 Lost 25
940 Points 674

B. Recent Form

3 October 2015 - Twickenham, London: 13 – 33 to Australia

29 November 2014 - Twickenham, London: 26 – 17 to England

2 November 2013 - Twickenham, London: 20 – 13 to England

17 November 2012 - Twickenham, London: 14 – 20 to Australia

13 November 2010 - Twickenham, London: 35 – 18 to England

19 June 2010 - Telstra Stadium, Sydney: 20 – 21 to England

12 June 2010 - Subiaco Oval, Perth: 27 – 17 to Australia

C. Teams

AUSTRALIA 
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Israel Folau; Dane Haylett-Petty, Tevita Kuridrani, Samu Kerevi, Rob Horne; Bernard Foley, Nick Phipps; Scott Sio, Stephen Moore (captain), Greg Holmes, Rory Arnold, Rob Simmons, Scott Fardy, Michael Hooper, David Pocock.

Replacements: Tatafu Polota-Nau, James Slipper, Sekope Kepu, James Horwill, Dean Mumm, Sean McMahon, Nick Frisby, Christian Lealiifano

ENGLAND
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15. Mike Brown; 14. Anthony Watson, 13. Jonathan Joseph, 12. Luther Burrell, 11. Marland Yarde; 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Mako Vunipola, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Dan Cole, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Chris Robshaw, 7. James Haskell, 8. Billy Vunipola.

Replacements: 16. Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17. Matt Mullan, 18. Paul Hill, 19. Joe Launchbury, 20. Courtney Lawes, 21. Danny Care, 22. George Ford, 23. Jack Nowell.


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Post by alfie Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:51 pm

nathan wrote:Oz still to nick this

Have to score twice...

Taking three so need a try in last two minutes ...

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:53 pm

Well done England. Middle finger to the negative bores on here.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:53 pm

Yes!!!!!!!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:53 pm

Frak yes.

Well done Care and Nowell.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:54 pm

Get in!

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Post by Biltong Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:54 pm

Well done England, you demolished OZ at the contact area
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Post by Notch Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:54 pm

Well... that was an interesting call from the Aussies at the end.
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Post by rozakthegoon Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:54 pm

Yes yes yes

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:54 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Oh very clever Aussie.  Probably a match winning decision when you are scoring tries with ease late on.

3 point win for oz now.
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Post by Breadvan Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:55 pm

Shocked My god..
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Post by alfie Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:56 pm

And finished with a bang as England seal it with another try Yahoo

And we'll done Trebell clap

I see your reverse cursing works just as well as it does at the cricket Smile

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:56 pm

After that start , winning looked impossible.

Well done England and Eddie.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:56 pm

Haskell and Itoje were immense.

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:56 pm

Two great games today

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Post by Notch Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:57 pm

Pretty special win from England there. When you concede four tries in the SH- and still win? That's a very special win, and a very special game.

Enjoy it lads OK
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:57 pm

alfie wrote:And finished with a bang as England seal it with another try Yahoo

And we'll done Trebell clap

I see your reverse cursing works just as well as it does at the cricket Smile

It was a rare case of them needing it more than ever after the World Cup Alfie.

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Post by eirebilly Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:58 pm

SecretFly wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I think England will cruise this series. Just a better side in my opinion.

Perhaps...but at the moment it's theory.

What Australia have is Home (not to be sniffed at) and - in my opinion - the better coach in Cheika.  Never under-estimate a Cheika team.

1 up for England, my prediction is not looking too bad so far. Massive credit to Jones and his boys there, the Aussies threw everything at them but they held on and won well.
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Post by lostinwales Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:58 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Turnover already.  Fears already coming true, we're going to get killed by this backrow.

Do we not have any good and balanced back rows?

Oh good lord this is way ahead of what eng can do.

laughing

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:59 pm

39 points is an England record against Australia according to the Aussie broadcasters. Not bad for starting down early on.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:59 pm

They also have Hooper. Standout player.

I was wrong on Haskell, he did cope with the pace of the game.

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Post by rozakthegoon Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:59 pm

The ossies are so so graceless in defeat!

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:01 pm

rozakthegoon wrote:The ossies are so so graceless in defeat!
I doubt there media will be, I expect a witch hunt on Cole by their media

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:02 pm

doctor_grey wrote:39 points is an England record against Australia according to the Aussie broadcasters.  Not bad for starting down early on.

And as an answer to the stuffing last year.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:03 pm

We can't say much apart from, the scoreline says it was a thumping win in Aus against the Wallabies. I don't think England played all that well if I'm honest* but they did enough against an erratic Aus.

*i missed the final 10-15 minutes.

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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:03 pm

Haskell outstanding!

We knew he can do that. He's done it all 6n let's see if ye can repeat that next week. Is he finally developing consistency!

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Post by Alex_Germany Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:05 pm

Just realised Care took a tap and go penalty! A 3 pointer, or kick to touch, would have made the game safe. Eddie will give him a bollocking, and then a beer for that.

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:05 pm

Love the little dig at the Maro love in.

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:05 pm

eirebilly wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I think England will cruise this series. Just a better side in my opinion.

Perhaps...but at the moment it's theory.

What Australia have is Home (not to be sniffed at) and - in my opinion - the better coach in Cheika.  Never under-estimate a Cheika team.

1 up for England, my prediction is not looking too bad so far. Massive credit to Jones and his boys there, the Aussies threw everything at them but they held on and won well.

I'm not counting chickens yet ...but that was an emphatic start ! Especially after going ten-nil down before they got their hands on the ball...

They certainly got right in the Aussie's faces - and the home side didn't handle it all that well . Coaches will have a big role between matches now , I think.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:06 pm

I need a lie down! What a game! For all the talk of the Aussie fetches I believe England made more turnovers.  Am I right? Aussies were lucky not to have another man carded for repeated breakdown infringements.
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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:07 pm

But I think it's not just about turnovers. They got far too much uncontested ball.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:07 pm

Pleased for Ford as well, did very well considering the pressure he was under.

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Post by Biltong Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:07 pm

That was an impressive start by England, they were very physical in contact and flooded the contact area, OZ better find a way to cope with it or it is bye bye Matilda
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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:07 pm

eirebilly wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I think England will cruise this series. Just a better side in my opinion.

Perhaps...but at the moment it's theory.

What Australia have is Home (not to be sniffed at) and - in my opinion - the better coach in Cheika.  Never under-estimate a Cheika team.

1 up for England, my prediction is not looking too bad so far. Massive credit to Jones and his boys there, the Aussies threw everything at them but they held on and won well.
I luck your predictions, mate.  
Before the next match we will rub your belly for luck.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:09 pm

Pinch me, what a performance

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:10 pm

Alex_Germany wrote:Just realised Care took a tap and go penalty! A 3 pointer, or kick to touch, would have made the game safe. Eddie will give him a bollocking, and then a beer for that.
He didn't take a quick tap, ref was playing advantage

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:10 pm

Scottrf wrote:Love the little dig at the Maro love in.

What was that?

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Post by nathan Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:12 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Pleased for Ford as well, did very well considering the pressure he was under.
Have to agree with this, he's taken a lot of flack and deserves his praise

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Post by lostinwales Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:12 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Itoje is a beast. One of the best and most powerful locks in the world. And Kruis is awesome. And Launchbury is crazy good.

SA can keep their monsters....we have the best locks..

On form Launchbury would get into pretty much any pack in world rugby - except for England.

It may all go horribly wrong any time soon but its fun while it lasts

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Post by Scottrf Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:13 pm

Haskell was asked about if the Aussies had him as MOTM, he said along the lines of 'not sure, but if it's Sky it will be Maro'.

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Post by rozakthegoon Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:14 pm

In the replays it looks like ford didn't even look for that pass to yarde. Class. And that kick!

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Post by Alex_Germany Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:15 pm

nathan wrote:
Alex_Germany wrote:Just realised Care took a tap and go penalty! A 3 pointer, or kick to touch, would have made the game safe. Eddie will give him a bollocking, and then a beer for that.
He didn't take a quick tap, ref was playing advantage

OK - then great decision. It was also before 79 min.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:16 pm

nathan wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Pleased for Ford as well, did very well considering the pressure he was under.
Have to agree with this, he's taken a lot of flack and deserves his praise

Ball in hand he's the best ten England have and despite being targeted defensively, he tackled well. The pass and kick for the Yarde and Nowell tries were superb.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:16 pm

never undertood why ford was under pressure, we score tries with him on the field
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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:17 pm

rozakthegoon wrote:In the replays it looks like ford didn't even look for that pass to yarde. Class. And that kick!
I think the kick was a dumb idea. If it doesn't come off, England will have given up possession with a lead less than one score. Looks great, of course, but England were down deep in Aussie territory with a lead to protect. Taking a risk at that point made no sense to me.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:17 pm

eirebilly wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I think England will cruise this series. Just a better side in my opinion.

Perhaps...but at the moment it's theory.

What Australia have is Home (not to be sniffed at) and - in my opinion - the better coach in Cheika.  Never under-estimate a Cheika team.

1 up for England, my prediction is not looking too bad so far. Massive credit to Jones and his boys there, the Aussies threw everything at them but they held on and won well.

And what was your prediction for the Ireland game again? Whistle

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Post by Poorfour Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:18 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:We can't say much apart from, the scoreline says it was a thumping win in Aus against the Wallabies. I don't think England played all that well if I'm honest* but they did enough against an erratic Aus.

*i missed the final 10-15 minutes.

Well, shucks. If we can beat the second best team in the world in their backyard by a record score while not playing well, I shall look forward to what England will be able to do when Eddie's had a bit more time with them.
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Post by Geordie Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:18 pm

Great comment from Jones re haskell.  

"Yeah the old fella did well. Everyone said he couldn't play international test open-side but hes doing not bad is he?"


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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:19 pm

Poorfour wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:We can't say much apart from, the scoreline says it was a thumping win in Aus against the Wallabies. I don't think England played all that well if I'm honest* but they did enough against an erratic Aus.

*i missed the final 10-15 minutes.

Well, shucks. If we can beat the second best team in the world in their backyard by a record score while not playing well, I shall look forward to what England will be able to do when Eddie's had a bit more time with them.

Yeah pretty much. I thought Aus just went completely off the boil. England didn't lose their heads when it would have been easy to do so.

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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:25 pm

It's about time Haskell got the recognition he deserved. He's been our best 6 for years, infinitely better than the likes of Wood. But that BS about him being a show-pony/bit of a tool set him back, because in England we don't seem to trust anyone who's not all dourness and furrowed eyebrows.

Whenever he's had a run he's always, to my mind, been in the best half of our pack at least, and often in the top 3 performers. But it seems like people have higher expectations of him than anyone else.

All this said...he's a 6. Great to see him playing so well though.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:25 pm

Realistically this was our best chance of winning. They're cold, we're established. As the series goes on, they warm up, we tire. So that's the right start. Next week will be a lot harder.

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