WRU's latest blunder, or is it the Pro12's fault ?

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Well this is a bit of a farce isn't it ? The next round of Pro12 fixtures, the welsh derbies, will clash with Rob Howley's Wales training camp, are the team Wales players going to be released for these fixtures ? I would not have thought so.

Cardiff Blues take on the Scarlets at the Arms Park on Friday October 28, with the Ospreys entertaining the Dragons at the Liberty Stadium the following day.They should be two of the most eagerly awaited games of the season, with derbies always creating great interest and drawing big crowds.But they are set to be devalued with the Welsh leading lights absent from the games amid what appears to be a scheduling calamity.That’s because they will be otherwise engaged in Wales’ 13-day training camp ahead of the opening autumn international against Australia on November 5.

munkian wrote:I'm soooo, soooo, sorrrreeeee

Accepted, and going forward please refrain from this sorta behaviour.

As I understand it, everybody involved knew, nowt was changed and some harumphing followed. Something like that.

Do we know if Irish test players are reelased for the p12 games this weekend?

I heard on Twitter they're likely to release 17 or 18 players - can't find anything to confirm that though.

Most of them have been released for this fixture: https://www.606v2.com/t64345-ulster-v-munster - the most notable absentees are Payne and Stander.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I heard on Twitter they're likely to release 17 or 18 players - can't find anything to confirm that though.

That can't be right. The WRU has only released 4 players and have also called up others like Ellis Jenkins and Cory Hill who aren't even in the wales squad.

I haven't read that Ellis has been called up but it might explain why he's isn't playing against the Scarlets why Turnbull is starting at 7 for Cardiff.

RugbyFan100 wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I heard on Twitter they're likely to release 17 or 18 players - can't find anything to confirm that though.

That can't be right. The WRU has only released 4 players and have also called up others like Ellis Jenkins and Cory Hill who aren't even in the wales squad.

I think it may be right: https://www.606v2.com/t64009p100-ireland-2016-17-season

RugbyFan100 wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I heard on Twitter they're likely to release 17 or 18 players - can't find anything to confirm that though.

That can't be right. The WRU has only released 4 players and have also called up others like Ellis Jenkins and Cory Hill who aren't even in the wales squad.

Cory Hill is in the squad.

Careful with mistake-correcting otherwise you'll have munkian storm in and start abusing you...

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

RugbyFan100 wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I heard on Twitter they're likely to release 17 or 18 players - can't find anything to confirm that though.

That can't be right. The WRU has only released 4 players and have also called up others like Ellis Jenkins and Cory Hill who aren't even in the wales squad.

I think it may be right: https://www.606v2.com/t64009p100-ireland-2016-17-season

My word you're right!

14 Irish players have been released by Ireland compared to the 4 by Wales.

It's pitiful, isn't it?

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

Well you couldn't have looked very hard, go and find what Danny Wilson had to say about the debacle.

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

Well you couldn't have looked very hard, go and find what Danny Wilson had to say about the debacle.

Saw that, but he's only team coach.

Cardiff Dave wrote:

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

Well you couldn't have looked very hard, go and find what Danny Wilson had to say about the debacle.

Saw that, but he's only team coach.

So the man who is in charge of Team affairs at your club, is not good enough?

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

Well you couldn't have looked very hard, go and find what Danny Wilson had to say about the debacle.

Saw that, but he's only team coach.

So the man who is in charge of Team affairs at your club, is not good enough?

Well I didn't suggest that, but would've liked an explanation of some kind for the fans from the big knobs running the show. But there again we've all had to put up with this stuff for donkeys. I also remember the CCS BS, so don't expect zip actually.

Cardiff Dave wrote:

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

Well you couldn't have looked very hard, go and find what Danny Wilson had to say about the debacle.

Saw that, but he's only team coach.

So the man who is in charge of Team affairs at your club, is not good enough?

Well I didn't suggest that, but would've liked an explanation of some kind for the fans from the big knobs running the show. But there again we've all had to put up with this stuff for donkeys. I also remember the CCS BS, so don't expect zip actually.

Dave, from what I understand and it can be found on the i'net, the clubs are sent a provisional fixture list for the season. They are asked is there any problem with said list, if something is against the interest such as last weekends mess, either the Regions in our respect, PRW overlooking the 4 Regions or the WRU can say that is not in their interests and get said matches moved. Apparently nobody did, Howley in a PC said this match with Oz was set in stone last year and either PRW or the Regions should have flagged it up.
This could be the reason that there has been no response from PRW or any individual Region, Danny put his twopenny worth in, perhaps he shouldn't have

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

I have heard that PRW (or whatever they are called now) were fully aware of the situation. And according to what I heard there were two reasons for why they di not cause too much of a stir about the fixtures. One was that there was always going to be an issue with the fixtures due to the 4th AI, and the other being that this will help raise support for their side of the debate when the adjustments to the season calendar come around (much like why PRL have allowed players to be released to Wales outside the international window).

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

I have heard that PRW (or whatever they are called now) were fully aware of the situation.  And according to what I heard there were two reasons for why they di not cause too much of a stir about the fixtures.   One was that there was always going to be an issue with the fixtures due to the 4th AI, and the other being that this will help raise support for their side of the debate when the adjustments to the season calendar come around (much like why PRL have allowed players to be released to Wales outside the international window).

Add the 13 day rule to that and the AI window effectively doubles which doesn't help our chances in the league or Europe. Doesn't help ticket sales either. But the clubs agreed to this a long time ago I guess, so there we are.

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

wayne wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's pitiful, isn't it?

Did any of the reejuns comment or publish a statement regarding this matter? Probably not would be my guess. Nowt from Cardiff that I could find.

Well you couldn't have looked very hard, go and find what Danny Wilson had to say about the debacle.

Saw that, but he's only team coach.

So the man who is in charge of Team affairs at your club, is not good enough?

Well I didn't suggest that, but would've liked an explanation of some kind for the fans from the big knobs running the show. But there again we've all had to put up with this stuff for donkeys. I also remember the CCS BS, so don't expect zip actually.

Dave, from what I understand and it can be found on the i'net, the clubs are sent a provisional fixture list for the season. They are asked is there any problem with said list, if something is against the interest such as last weekends mess, either the Regions in our respect, PRW overlooking the 4 Regions or the WRU can say that is not in their interests and get said matches moved. Apparently nobody did, Howley in a PC said this match with Oz was set in stone last year and either PRW or the Regions should have flagged it up.
This could be the reason that there has been no response from PRW or any individual Region, Danny put his twopenny worth in, perhaps he shouldn't have

Good for him and let's face his hands are tied.
Hey maybe DY should've chopsed before Wasps nicked him? Would've upset the Cardiff applecart though I spose.