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NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
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IRELAND v NEW ZEALAND
5 November 2016
15:00 CDT / 20:00 GMT
Soldier Field, Chicago, USA
Live on eir Sport and BT Sport
Referee: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Assistant Referees: Luke Pearce (England), Ben Whitehouse (Wales)
TMO: Rowan Kitt (England)
A. Head to Head
28 Played 28
0 Won 27
1 Drawn 1
27 Lost 0
310 Points 812
B. Recent Form
24 November 2013
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
22 – 24 to New Zealand
23 June 2012
Waikato Stadium, Hamilton
60 – 0 to New Zealand
16 June 2012
Rugby League Park, Christchurch
22 – 19 to New Zealand
9 June 2012
Eden Park, Auckland
42 – 10 to New Zealand
20 November 2010
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
18 – 38 to New Zealand
C. Teams
NEW ZEALAND
1. Joe Moody
2. Dane Coles
3. Owen Franks
4. Patrick Tuipulotu
5. Jerome Kaino
6. Liam Squire
7. Sam Cane
8. Kieran Read – captain
9. Aaron Smith
10. Beauden Barrett
11. Julian Savea
12. Ryan Crotty
13. George Moala
14. Waisake Naholo
15. Ben Smith
16. Codie Taylor
17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi
18. Charlie Faumuina
19. Scott Barrett
20. Ardie Savea
21. TJ Perenara
22. Aaron Cruden
23. Malakai Fekitoa
IRELAND
1 McGrath
2 Best
3 Furlong
4 Ryan
5 Toner
6 Stander
7 Murphy
8 Heaslip
9 Murray
10 Sexton
11 Zebo
12 Henshaw
13 Payne
14 Trimble
15 Kearney
16 Cronin
17 Healy
18 Bealham
19 Dillane
20 van der Flier
21 Marmion
22 Carbery
23 Ringrose
IRELAND v NEW ZEALAND
5 November 2016
15:00 CDT / 20:00 GMT
Soldier Field, Chicago, USA
Live on eir Sport and BT Sport
Referee: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Assistant Referees: Luke Pearce (England), Ben Whitehouse (Wales)
TMO: Rowan Kitt (England)
A. Head to Head
28 Played 28
0 Won 27
1 Drawn 1
27 Lost 0
310 Points 812
B. Recent Form
24 November 2013
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
22 – 24 to New Zealand
23 June 2012
Waikato Stadium, Hamilton
60 – 0 to New Zealand
16 June 2012
Rugby League Park, Christchurch
22 – 19 to New Zealand
9 June 2012
Eden Park, Auckland
42 – 10 to New Zealand
20 November 2010
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
18 – 38 to New Zealand
C. Teams
NEW ZEALAND
1. Joe Moody
2. Dane Coles
3. Owen Franks
4. Patrick Tuipulotu
5. Jerome Kaino
6. Liam Squire
7. Sam Cane
8. Kieran Read – captain
9. Aaron Smith
10. Beauden Barrett
11. Julian Savea
12. Ryan Crotty
13. George Moala
14. Waisake Naholo
15. Ben Smith
16. Codie Taylor
17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi
18. Charlie Faumuina
19. Scott Barrett
20. Ardie Savea
21. TJ Perenara
22. Aaron Cruden
23. Malakai Fekitoa
IRELAND
1 McGrath
2 Best
3 Furlong
4 Ryan
5 Toner
6 Stander
7 Murphy
8 Heaslip
9 Murray
10 Sexton
11 Zebo
12 Henshaw
13 Payne
14 Trimble
15 Kearney
16 Cronin
17 Healy
18 Bealham
19 Dillane
20 van der Flier
21 Marmion
22 Carbery
23 Ringrose
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Not grey and not a ghost- Posts : 150
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Well done Ireland. No complaints. Better side won. Enjoy your night. Assume it will be long and happy.
Not grey and not a ghost- Posts : 150
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Well done Ireland, brilliant result and very much deserved after all the heart break of recent times
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Re: NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
Balls as big as houses - balls as big as houses!
Feck me.
Feck me.
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Re: NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
Wow. 111 years of history.
Amazing performance. Blew NZ away, then rode out their comeback and struck the finishing blow.
Amazing performance. Blew NZ away, then rode out their comeback and struck the finishing blow.
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Didn't expect that! Great stuff Ireland!
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Just joshing mate. Enjoy your win. Well deserved
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We did it. Finally.
Fantastic result.
Didn't see the game, but will have to catch the highlights.
Can we repeat it again in a few weeks?
Fantastic result.
Didn't see the game, but will have to catch the highlights.
Can we repeat it again in a few weeks?
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Re: NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
But harsh there, he clearly was joking
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WE WON!!!
Unbelievable! My heart was in my mouth when the AB's got within 4 points, but what character for this side to then pull away again.
Nerves are shredded but on top of the world
Unbelievable! My heart was in my mouth when the AB's got within 4 points, but what character for this side to then pull away again.
Nerves are shredded but on top of the world
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Staggering brilliant display! Congratulations Ireland and although it won't happen i think Schmidt should be begged to go to NZ next summer.
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Well played Ireland a Great win. certainly a better game than Wales v Australia.
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Fantastic,fantastic,brilliant,superb,magical IRELAND.AWESOME.Up there with the LIONS in 1971.Truly the history men.
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Re: NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
Fiiiiiiiiikkkkkkk me. Have some of that. Incredible. I just..... Fuuuuckkkk. Yeassssss
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CJ,Zebo and Murray. One for Axel..
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Axel all over the park today, shame he didn't see it but one feels he probably did.
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Delighted for Rory Best- one of the games true gentlemen, and now he'll always have this feather in his cap as Captain
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Re: NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
Notch wrote:Delighted for Rory Best- one of the games true gentlemen, and now he'll always have this feather in his cap
The feather that tickled BOD's nose on a couple of occasions...
That's NZ and SA beaten by Ireland now, they're a force to be reckoned with.
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Have a great night guys
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Rob Kearney. He remembered how to play. Hats off to the man
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Notch wrote:Delighted for Rory Best- one of the games true gentlemen, and now he'll always have this feather in his cap as Captain
Was just thinking that. To have the privilege of leading this side to the first victory over the AB's will take some beating.
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Re: NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
Congratulations Ireland and who says romance is dead. Truly one for the ages.
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Fantastic result. Was getting a little worried when they started coming back. But so cool under pressure
Well done
Well done
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Brilliant, so happy for you Irish fans. Great game to watch and victory richly deserved. Enjoy the celebrations!
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Need to follow it up in a few weeks time
Have to say Carberry, with the exception of the missed kick, did not look out of place and Paddy Jackson may have a battle getting back into the 23
But for now, WHAT A PERFORMANCE!!!
Have to say Carberry, with the exception of the missed kick, did not look out of place and Paddy Jackson may have a battle getting back into the 23
But for now, WHAT A PERFORMANCE!!!
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Ireland showed Wales up even more today. Thank god at least one Celtic nation has some spunk
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carpet baboon wrote:Rob Kearney. He remembered how to play. Hats off to the man
He was the weak link and shouldn't be near the team
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I wasn't sure I would ever see that in my lifetime.
Absolutely astonishing. So it's our turn now, right?
Absolutely astonishing. So it's our turn now, right?
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George Carlin wrote:I wasn't sure I would ever see that in my lifetime.
Absolutely astonishing. So it's our turn now, right?
Who knows? All I know is that the All Blacks play Italy next week and so it's probably not a good week to be Italy.
And remember we're playing them again the week after. They'll be seriously pumped for that!
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No fair play to Kearney I thought he had a great game.for a while I thought it was going to be 2013 all over again but what courage. New Zealand missed their two locks the line out was a shambles for most players f the first half but this all black side is being talked as the best side in history,perhaps that makes Schmitt the best coach then.what a day for Ireland and what a superb advert for rugby union.congratulations to both sides.
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Insane. Just insane.
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Re: NZ v Ireland, Chicago, 4 November 2016
Patrick McKendry at the NZ Herald on it already:
Irish pack key to historic victory
11:07 AM Sunday Nov 6, 2016
As the post mortems begin on his All Blacks defeat, their first ever against Ireland, the first issue under the spotlight should be how crucial were the absences of their three top locks - Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock and Luke Romano.
The All Blacks were badly beaten up front, for the first time in a long while. It wasn't just the lineout, though they lost three in the first half, including a crucial one after a penalty.
It was at the contact point, too. Without Retallick and Whitelock, both injured, and Romano, who went home due to a family bereavement, the big Irish men such as the giant Devin Toner and Donnacha Ryan were able to stop the All Blacks in their tracks.
They got quicker ball in the second half, but the All Blacks were in a real hole at halftime. In the end it was too deep, and how the Irish deserved to celebrate at the final whistle. Robbie Henshaw's try which sealed it in the final five minutes would have set off some special feelings in Cork and Dublin and Kilkenny.
They paid tribute to the late international and Munster coach Anthony Foley when facing the haka in a figure of eight - Foley's number as a player, and at the end of a week in which the Chicago Cubs broke their 108-year losing streak, clearly the men in green were imbued with a special type of self belief in this city.
Three years after the All Blacks survived their scare in Dublin with an extraordinary second-half comeback, there was no way back from this one; their test winning streak halted at 18. It took an incredible effort to do so from Ireland, particularly on defence, to get their first win over the All Blacks in 111 years.
The All Blacks got within four points but in the end lost their composure. Their handling and ball skills, normally so self assured, went south along with their hopes.
Patrick Tuipulotu wasn't his usual powerful self at lock, with Jerome Kaino clearly trying, but it was a big call shifting him to the second row from blindside flanker. With his three top locks out, though, coach Steve Hansen had little choice.
There is no doubt Aaron Smith picked a bad time to have a below-par game, his first after his suspension. He and a lot of his teammates looked flat; their opponents in green were men possessed but played intelligently. Clearly their Kiwi coach Joe Schmidt has made a huge difference.
There will be a re-match in Dublin in a fortnight, and on this evidence the Irish will be difficult to beat. How quickly things change in this game.
- NZ Herald
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A re match? The Aviva in 2 weeks…..crikey.
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Congratulations Ireland,you deserved the win judging by the only reports
I`ve seen.Gutted that I didn't watch it not having BT sports 2 coverage
never believe any side is invincible.
Dublin will be a cracker indications being Retalick and Whitelock will
be back for that one.
Australia on high could be Bledisloe Cup back in oz next year two
home games.
The gap between AB`s and the rest is not insurmountable maybe
they`ve peaked and are now in decline.
I`ve seen.Gutted that I didn't watch it not having BT sports 2 coverage
never believe any side is invincible.
Dublin will be a cracker indications being Retalick and Whitelock will
be back for that one.
Australia on high could be Bledisloe Cup back in oz next year two
home games.
The gap between AB`s and the rest is not insurmountable maybe
they`ve peaked and are now in decline.
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Will the Irish press publish a Hansen leprechaun after this?
Ah, isnt't pride a pain in the ass!!
Ah, isnt't pride a pain in the ass!!
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Too all th NZ at the match who were pure class. Thank so much for one of the best days of my life. So proud of all involved. Love ye.
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Rory_Gallagher wrote:I'm looking forward to watching another 80 minutes of the Irish sponge, where we build up a small lead through penalties and then attempt to soak up all of the pressure from the All Blacks until we inevitably burst and are left battered for the rest of the series.
Apologies, Schmidtoids, but this team isn't going to win. I would love to be wrong, but I won't be. I sincerely hope that by the second test we will see an improved team, especially in the backline. Rob Kearney...
Sigh.
Missed the game. Had to double take after seeing the score-line. I think I shall take a walk of shame out of these forums for a bit, based on the above.
(I'm delighted to be wrong though.)
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NZ Herald….not a word about the irish performance. Pretty poor show really.
Bring on the clowns….there have to be clowns…where are the clowns?
Bring on the clowns….there have to be clowns…where are the clowns?
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I feel I contributed to the win. Early on in the match I checked the score online, and saw Ireland ahead. With great self discipline, I refused to start watching, in the knowledge that I would certainly jinx the result. With that potential hoodoo banished, it's wonderful to see Ireland were able to take full advantage of my sacrifice.
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Chance in two weeks to be the first NH team to win two in a row and an effective series since France in 96
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Gwlad wrote:NZ Herald….not a word about the irish performance. Pretty poor show really.
Bring on the clowns….there have to be clowns…where are the clowns?
It's only been half an hour or something
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Notch see above from George Carlin, an article has already been published. I'd expect to see a bit about how they were beaten, not abut how the absence of key personnel caused them to lose
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(FAO Geen sport voor watjes)
Can I just say I'm delighted for you guys and well done and congrats for a well-deserved win.
No hard feelings mate and enjoy your win. I just think you may have misinterpreted my comments but apologies if they came across badly. The joy of online posting
Plenty of to all our Irish friends and kudos to NZ for almost making one heck of a comeback.
All good for rugby.
PS Italy are in major trouble next week...
Can I just say I'm delighted for you guys and well done and congrats for a well-deserved win.
No hard feelings mate and enjoy your win. I just think you may have misinterpreted my comments but apologies if they came across badly. The joy of online posting
Plenty of to all our Irish friends and kudos to NZ for almost making one heck of a comeback.
All good for rugby.
PS Italy are in major trouble next week...
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Cyril wrote:(FAO Geen sport voor watjes)
Can I just say I'm delighted for you guys and well done and congrats for a well-deserved win.
No hard feelings mate and enjoy your win. I just think you may have misinterpreted my comments but apologies if they came across badly. The joy of online posting
Plenty of to all our Irish friends and kudos to NZ for almost making one heck of a comeback.
All good for rugby.
PS Italy are in major trouble next week...
Fair enough. Apologies for the strong response. Slightly on the emotional side ...
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That's ok, I can be a bit bristly myself and my comments were a wee bit 'baity'. Enjoy your night mateGeen sport voor watjes wrote:Cyril wrote:(FAO Geen sport voor watjes)
Can I just say I'm delighted for you guys and well done and congrats for a well-deserved win.
No hard feelings mate and enjoy your win. I just think you may have misinterpreted my comments but apologies if they came across badly. The joy of online posting
Plenty of to all our Irish friends and kudos to NZ for almost making one heck of a comeback.
All good for rugby.
PS Italy are in major trouble next week...
Fair enough. Apologies for the strong response. Slightly on the emotional side ...
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Well done to the Irish lads. First win ever against the mighty and what had been all conquering All Blacks side. Amazing team spirit that they were able to carry through to the final whistle.
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Second time this year isn't it given the u20s at the World Cup. First win away in s Africa as well saint joe must never be allowed back to his homeland
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