Ireland November Tests.

First topic message reminder :

What would we like to see?
With ringrose definitely out, and henshaw and Payne looking unlikely, who shall step into the centre pairing?
If all our back row are fit whats the best combo?
Will tonner continue in the row or will he be usurped?

Lots of questions, and the season hasnt even started yet

geoff999rugby wrote:

Fly: I am married with a daughter. I carry an Irish passport, some of my relatives are English, I live in Belfast. I am a practising athiest and I am in my early 60's.

Does that confession mean I am no longer have anonymity on the internet

Ha! HA!!! I knew it was you all along. I could tell by the way you say things.
I'm the guy who drives ever so slowly in front of you every week on that little side-road exit that becomes a bottleneck when someone like me shows up. Know it? Yeah, that's me! I never knew you were an atheist by the way you drive though. Absolutely thought you must have been Presbyterian the way you change from 1st to 2nd so quickly. Anyway... I'll stop and talk next time I park on that exit

"I am married with a daughter. I carry an Irish passport, some of my relatives are English, I live in Belfast. I am a practising athiest and I am in my early 60's."

I am your polar opposite Geoff.

I am not married and have a son. I carry a UK passport and none of my relatives are English, I live in Armagh (the opposite to Belfast).
The Atheist bit's the same though but I'm not practicing any more, I'm really good at it.

Fly I'm Catholic atheist not a Protestant atheist

It matters up here you know

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:I don't think Argentina are woeful at all. They spanked Italy and put in a decent shift against England in Twickers.

They are also fairly battle hardened from just going through the rugby championship. I think this will be one hell of a tough game.

Their ranking is skewed because they have played England 4 times, NZ twice, Aus twice and SA twice and Italy once this year. That's 8 games from 11 against the top three sides in the world.

A decent shift?

They were woeful, there was no creativity or patience in attack and the kicking was some of the worst I've seen in test rugby

and yet they only lost by 13 points in Twickenham.

England have won their home games this year by an average of 22 points this year. They thrashed Scotland, Australia and Italy at home.

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:I don't think Argentina are woeful at all. They spanked Italy and put in a decent shift against England in Twickers.

They are also fairly battle hardened from just going through the rugby championship. I think this will be one hell of a tough game.

Their ranking is skewed because they have played England 4 times, NZ twice, Aus twice and SA twice and Italy once this year. That's 8 games from 11 against the top three sides in the world.

A decent shift?

They were woeful, there was no creativity or patience in attack and the kicking was some of the worst I've seen in test rugby

and yet they only lost by 13 points in Twickenham.

England have won their home games this year by an average of 22 points this year. They thrashed Scotland, Australia and Italy at home.

So because of the points margin that means Argentina weren't that bad? That's strange logic

Well not being absolutely hammered by England is a considered bonus these days.  You have to give them some credit for managing to get out of there with a respectable scoreline.

SecretFly wrote:

rapidsnowman wrote:

Bungle and Zippy were characters from ancient times when TVs had aerials that didn't work much unless you thumped the side of the TV with a sledgehammer.

Does that help?

Fly, I'm pretty ancient - can remember black and white telly, rabbits ears aerials and aerials on every roof before cable tv arrived, but who the fock are Bungle and Zippy - can remember Hekyll and Jekyll though

Sounds like 606v2 is turning into a dating site

MichaelT wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:He hardly had a terrible Lions tour. However, he may have been a little tired after bullying the English pack in the Six Nations, something Cyril seems to have forgot. His golden boys didn't turn up that day, did they?

The English had turned up at the previous four games though - how did Ireland get on in the grand scheme of things? You do know its called the Six Nations tournament don't you? Its not the one-off match when we have no chance of winning the tournament because we assumed we would be playing for a grand slam after we won another one-off match five months before and didnt bother for the other matches tournament.

Look at the original post I was responding to. Your points are irrelevant.

Bungle and Zippy were two characters that probably wouldn't get onto to Telly these days unless you ignore a twosome like Ant and Dec..... Yes, that's a good comparison - the Ant and Dec of entertainment but with hands up their asses instead of heads...

That's the best I can do!

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Sounds like 606v2 is turning into a dating site

Who get's you though, Geen. That's what we're all waiting to find out. Which lovely lady takes you out for a spin

brennomac wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

rapidsnowman wrote:

Bungle and Zippy were characters from ancient times when TVs had aerials that didn't work much unless you thumped the side of the TV with a sledgehammer.

Does that help?

Fly, I'm pretty ancient - can remember black and white telly, rabbits ears aerials and aerials on every roof before cable tv arrived, but who the fock are Bungle and Zippy - can remember Hekyll and Jekyll though

Rabbits Ears woz it? Oh My.... how very posh. The best signal I could come up with was a coat hanger bent into the shape of Bungle.

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:I don't think Argentina are woeful at all. They spanked Italy and put in a decent shift against England in Twickers.

They are also fairly battle hardened from just going through the rugby championship. I think this will be one hell of a tough game.

Their ranking is skewed because they have played England 4 times, NZ twice, Aus twice and SA twice and Italy once this year. That's 8 games from 11 against the top three sides in the world.

A decent shift?

They were woeful, there was no creativity or patience in attack and the kicking was some of the worst I've seen in test rugby

and yet they only lost by 13 points in Twickenham.

England have won their home games this year by an average of 22 points this year. They thrashed Scotland, Australia and Italy at home.

So because of the points margin that means Argentina weren't that bad? That's strange logic

Is it? They performed better in Twickenham that the teams ranked 3rd and 5th in the world, both ranked above them.

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:I don't think Argentina are woeful at all. They spanked Italy and put in a decent shift against England in Twickers.

They are also fairly battle hardened from just going through the rugby championship. I think this will be one hell of a tough game.

Their ranking is skewed because they have played England 4 times, NZ twice, Aus twice and SA twice and Italy once this year. That's 8 games from 11 against the top three sides in the world.

A decent shift?

They were woeful, there was no creativity or patience in attack and the kicking was some of the worst I've seen in test rugby

and yet they only lost by 13 points in Twickenham.

England have won their home games this year by an average of 22 points this year. They thrashed Scotland, Australia and Italy at home.

So because of the points margin that means Argentina weren't that bad? That's strange logic

Is it? They performed better in Twickenham that the teams ranked 3rd and 5th in the world, both ranked above them.

By that logic Fiji are better than SA because they only lost by 3 to Ireland

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:I don't think Argentina are woeful at all. They spanked Italy and put in a decent shift against England in Twickers.

They are also fairly battle hardened from just going through the rugby championship. I think this will be one hell of a tough game.

Their ranking is skewed because they have played England 4 times, NZ twice, Aus twice and SA twice and Italy once this year. That's 8 games from 11 against the top three sides in the world.

A decent shift?

They were woeful, there was no creativity or patience in attack and the kicking was some of the worst I've seen in test rugby

and yet they only lost by 13 points in Twickenham.

England have won their home games this year by an average of 22 points this year. They thrashed Scotland, Australia and Italy at home.

So because of the points margin that means Argentina weren't that bad? That's strange logic

Is it? They performed better in Twickenham that the teams ranked 3rd and 5th in the world, both ranked above them.

By that logic Fiji are better than SA because they only lost by 3 to Ireland

Nice one Marty, here endeth the lesson

Well the Fiji that played us might easily have beaten the SA that didn't beat us.  It's a strange old game is rugby union.

Actually, - and seriously for a moment - would that be a real and blunt solution to ... Pacific Island issues - the SANZAR sides inviting Samoa and Fiji into the Rugby Championship. In truth, I think even they would admit that they owe more brotherly allegiance to these islands than they do to a South American side.

I say this because I ask myself would Samoa or Fiji actually offer much much more of a challenge to the top three in that contest if they got into the rhythm of having a high level contest to fight in every season?

SecretFly wrote:Well the Fiji that played us might easily have beaten the SA that didn't beat us.  It's a strange old game is rugby union.

Problem is that Ireland put out different sides, what Collapse misses completely is that England were pretty poor too with some poor passing, poor discipline and they really missed Farrell

Pete330v2 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:I don't think Argentina are woeful at all. They spanked Italy and put in a decent shift against England in Twickers.

They are also fairly battle hardened from just going through the rugby championship. I think this will be one hell of a tough game.

Their ranking is skewed because they have played England 4 times, NZ twice, Aus twice and SA twice and Italy once this year. That's 8 games from 11 against the top three sides in the world.

A decent shift?

They were woeful, there was no creativity or patience in attack and the kicking was some of the worst I've seen in test rugby

and yet they only lost by 13 points in Twickenham.

England have won their home games this year by an average of 22 points this year. They thrashed Scotland, Australia and Italy at home.

So because of the points margin that means Argentina weren't that bad? That's strange logic

Is it? They performed better in Twickenham that the teams ranked 3rd and 5th in the world, both ranked above them.

By that logic Fiji are better than SA because they only lost by 3 to Ireland

Nice one Marty, here endeth the lesson

Maybe if you are thick it does. However the Ireland team that faced SA was completely different to the one that faced Fiji. However the England side that faced Argentina was full strength as it was for all their other home games by and large.

marty2086 wrote:

SecretFly wrote:Well the Fiji that played us might easily have beaten the SA that didn't beat us.  It's a strange old game is rugby union.

Problem is that Ireland put out different sides, what Collapse misses completely is that England were pretty poor too with some poor passing, poor discipline and they really missed Farrell

England have been winning games playing badly all year. they weren't great v Australia and Italy at home either.

SecretFly wrote:

brennomac wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

rapidsnowman wrote:

Bungle and Zippy were characters from ancient times when TVs had aerials that didn't work much unless you thumped the side of the TV with a sledgehammer.

Does that help?

Fly, I'm pretty ancient - can remember black and white telly, rabbits ears aerials and aerials on every roof before cable tv arrived, but who the fock are Bungle and Zippy - can remember Hekyll and Jekyll though

Rabbits Ears woz it?  Oh My.... how very posh.  The best signal I could come up with was a coat hanger bent into the shape of Bungle.

I found a coat hanger just stuck into the aerial socket at the back worked fine for getting RTE on channel A. UTV was a bit hairy though. I did enjoy Closedown though - brought a good end to the day.