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Post by Driver Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:16 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the 4th season of the fantasy aviva premiership game


Opening Weekend fixtures; Leicester Tigers vs Exeter Chiefs ; London Irish vs Harlequins ; Newcastle Falcons vs Bath ; Northampton vs Gloucester ; Saracens vs London Wasps ; Worcester Warriors vs Sale Sharks

This Weeks match thread(s) :- https://www.606v2.com/t8662-fixtures-3#245781

Season One Homepage (Archived)

Season Two Homepage Part One(Archived)

Season Two Homepage Part Two(Archived)

Rules

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LV Anglo Welsh Cup Homepage

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1. Sam
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Bath RFC
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Exeter Chiefs
Manager:- RugbyDriver

Gloucester
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Harlequins
Manager:- Steve_sharks

Leicester Tigers
Manager:- LukeLovesLuka

London Irish
Manager:- stnick88

London Wasps
Manager:- Arry

Newcastle Falcons
Manager:- PoolyPunk

Northampton Saints
Manager:- Dammit_Chris

Sale Sharks
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Saracens
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Worcester Warriors
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:58 pm

Yea agree with that, I'd have Guildford over JP, Bismark over TpN and Pretorious/Genia is a close call too.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:32 pm

I think genia was pretty Unanimous. In most teams of the week

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16017_6997432,00.html

Pretorious has been good though.

Reds have been the best team and a lot of that is due to Genia's control and how he buys time for cooper.

Withoutt doubt the best SH in the world and bang in form. Getting better and better as the season progresses

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:04 pm

Agree with most.

SBW started the season on incredible form but has tailed off a bit with injury.

Guildford and JP as wings for me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:02 pm

I thought it was close between Genia/Pretorious Matt, 9 tries from a SH also is pretty awsome and he's got not alot behind him from 10-15.

Genia has had a good second half to the S15 without doubt but I don't think he's the standout SH about. It's a pretty close affair really and I'd have him there abouts with a few others.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:07 pm

He does play behind one hell of a pack though. I think pretorius would be good back up for fdp. Saw him
In the running for young player of s15 he is 26 or so!!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:23 pm

I can't believe he's not involved, I'm tempted to go for him but could disappear next season. He's by far the standout SA scrum half, has everything...PDiv really doesn't like to pick on form. Took 2 huge season from Vermeulen to get a sniff.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:03 pm

Same for coonie. Greyling is a good lh as well. Needs to work on scrummaging but averages 10 tackles a match.

To be fair distribution of talent on SA is poor. Bulls have stockpiles and SA would be better if they made them go to other sides. Ie Kruger,roussow,flip,matfield, bakkies

Same with stormers taken de jongh most of season to win the 12 spot from jdv. Been there best player last few games but better if
Both were at separate clubs

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:20 pm

ANyone watch the Eng u20s today? Just finished watching it on Sky+ - thought they put in another good performance, was a brutal game. Thought Ford put in another great performance.

Mat - what do you think of Mills, your centre - he looked good when he came on. Where are you finding all of these backs from at the moment?! Got some great youngsters coming through!

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:28 am

Chris its all about hartpury Academy and St Peters School. They get lads into my old school ST.Peters if they are too young for Hartpury and then get them to HArtpury.

It means there are youngsters being treated like professionals from age 15 in that they train 4 times a wek. play a game and are taught by the best coaches.

Its not really developing tight 5 forwards which is the worry though.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:29 am

Mills can play from 10 to 15 as well same as Robson who is the biggest hope in that age group

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:19 am

http://www.rugbyrugby.com/index.php/rugby-world-cup/382-phillips-ban-good-news-for-boks

Looks like the Boks haven't seen Phillips play much over the last 2 years....West Hartlepool wouldn't be worried about him these days!

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Post by Driver Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:36 am

With Forman at 9 they's wouldnt be worried bout genia Wink
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:44 am

going to stick up for phillips here. He may be out of form but then he has played with a dire backrow for ages and this means he gets terrible ball.

Maybe the move to france will help him. His service was A1 on the Lions tour and he was fantastic.

Also he does occupy the oppositions backrow.

Would rather have phillips than Cussiter, TOL, Stringer, Lawson, etc

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:58 am

I wouldn't....I like a SH to be able to distribute and not take the ball on himself every time. Wales had a very strong backrow last 6N and he was still awful. 2009 form means nothing in 2011 for me.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:13 am

I would say that his distribution is better than any of those listed above. His service during the Lions tour was better than any other that went on that tour.


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Post by 'Arry Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:03 am

Looking for an inside and outside centre.

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Post by Driver Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:56 am

Anybody watching the tahs? Great try by Tom Carter again - the boys on fire!
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:02 am

Will you keep score updates driver mate please. Sat in work Crying or Very sad

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Post by Driver Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:07 am

Tahs 8 Blues 7 good game so far.

May line up Carter as my next foreign who's everyone else got in mind?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:11 am

Cheers mate thumbsup

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:13 am

You sure you are watching the same game as me Driver?

Been pretty poor from what I am seeing, Blues 13-8 up now.
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:18 am

What are people going for in the foreigns???

Carter will be back up the minute horne is fit driver so may just be bidding for a tahs bench player.

I quite fancy going for Ashley Johnson although may go for the montpelier tight head. Absolute beast.

Loved seeing him destroy the Toulouse scrum in the Top 14 final. Dont see many do that

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:22 am

I've still got that match to watch, can't go wrong with French props really. AJ has had a cracking season.

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Post by Driver Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:29 am

I'm enjoying it pete but granted I follow the tahs , Beale is shocking at 10 , too individual to play there.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:33 am

I like the Tahs too Driver, just both teams trying to force the game too much, offloading when it's not on and lots of turnovers and individual errors.

Was also a blatant forward pass, at least 2 metres forward from Rokocoko, in the build up to the Blues try.

Not a classic by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by Driver Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:57 am

Good try by blues , well Williams Ran a great support line anyway


Phil Waugh take a bow
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:39 am

Just seen the Carter try. Jeez what a poor tackle by McCallister. That is pretty embarassing. For such a unit he is a kitten in the tackle

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:56 am

one for Pooly

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_7001447,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:46 am

Aus S15 player of the season.....

Why for me? I like and rate Genia mate just don't think he's the standout scrum half about. I'd throw others in the mix like Parra, Du Preez and maybe Pretorious.

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Post by Driver Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:31 pm

Guys

With regards to predicting from now on during the rest of the off season i'd appreciate it if we could all add a bit of detail to when we predict.

Steven_Sharks wrote:Would like people to comment on weaknesses they see on the bench but most importantly in the Starting XV.


People are directly asking for it so i think the least we could do is give a bit of detail.

I'm going to use a comparison of 3 different managers from last weeks predictions as examples to what is helpful and what isn't

Great help : SJE

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Saints 15 17 Bath

Front row to Saints for me here. Hayman maybe not had the best of seasons but the same can be said for Perugini. Mears at hook isn't the strongest scrummager. Good balance to the Saints 2nd row and Maestri for Bath is a good talent. Bath edge the backrow for me although Messam has really come on this year. Halfbacks to Bath. Hodgson although not the strongest defender is better then given credit for and is a fantastic attacking 10. Been better then Flood through the aviva this year. Beaxuis a good 10 but very incosistent maybe Toulouse will knock that out of him. Centres to Bath for me. Mason hasnt really got a rating yet to be honest for me. Back 3s to Bath. Good close match here but Bath looking stronger overall.

Exeter 23 18 Quins

Hard day at the scrum for the Quins front row in this one. 2nd row goes to Quins though with a classy combination although Donnelly is lacking some form. Backrow battle to Chiefs for me. They have a bit more at 6 and 8 whle Holah is more of a 7 then Bonnaire. Halfbacks to Quins for me. Im a fan of Priestland. Should really make the world cup squad for Wales and should be in consideration for the fullback shirt with Byrnes lack of form! Both sides with a good set of backs and not really much to choose between them. Chiefs take this one with a good strong performance from the pack

Irish 22 18 Newcastle

Front row battle to Irish here for me. Lindsay full of potential but now 3rd choice at Wasps with Thommo signed up. Mitchell a potential welsh TH but not had alot of gametime at Ospreys. COuld be well rated at Exeter this year though. 2nd row to Irish. Lack of grunt in Falcons selection with Kruger not really an enforcer style lock and Parling needs gametime to be rated again. Backrow to Newcastle. Big fan of Robshaw would prefer to see him in the english backrow over Haskell, Woods etc. Fourie stronger at 7 but Vermulen the stronger 8 . In some good form while Rush has been fairly quiet. Halfbacks even. In the backs theres a lack of form for Irish particularly in midfield. Some top form for Newcastle in the back 3. Ben Smith has been preety damn good this year. Good game here and hard to call. Falcons struggling at scrum time and in the tight without an enforcer. Fourie is crucial for me in this one. He will be all over the place at the breakdown with a good tight 5 around him and will see Newcastle struggle.

Little help but could use more detail

InTheFastLane wrote:Sarries 27-23 Sale
Better backs and forwards from Sarries.

Exeter 19-16Quins
Forwards good from Exeter, not much in backs

Irish 17-18 Falcons
Newcastle backs get them the win

Could just add a bit to get to 207s detail

dammit_chris wrote:Sarries 29 - 33 Sale
Exeter 27 - 25 Quins
Irish 23 - 19 Newcastle


I'm not moaning at you lads it's just that detail in predictions especially in this tournament helps managers know where to strengthen and what is working for them.

Don't make me send Johnny round! randy
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:58 pm

Il give you all the old karate chop! king

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:29 pm

Good page for T14 transfers:

http://www.rugby365.com/news/2751543.htm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:11 pm

As you know Matt, McAlsiter has a great defence. Was a cracking fend on him though by Carter, he offers a lot more in attack than Horne who's a club player at best, think Horne might struggle to get back in the side.

Great performances from McAlister & Payne, some pure magic touches.

Tahs missed their big guns TpN, Barnes, Mitchell, Palu would have made a huge difference.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:42 pm

Players for sale - lot of English players available if anyone needs to improve and strengthen?

HK Ross Batty (E)
HK Chris Whitehead (E)
PR Dave Wilson (E) (1 or 3)
PR Sakaria Taulafo (Samoa) (3)
FL Sione Kalamafoni (Tonga)
FL/N8 Luke Watson (South Africa)
SH Charlie Davies (E)
CE/FB Shane Geraghty (E)
CE Luke Eves (E)
CE Casey Laulala (NZ)
WG Tom Arscott (E) FOR SALE
FB/FH Christian Lewis-Pratt (E)
WG/FB Dan Caprice (E)

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Post by stnick88 Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:12 pm

haha will matt nibble?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:14 pm

Do you think he tell I'm fishing Nick? He does it better than me....Sad

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:22 pm

Pooly when I commented earlier i had only seen carter try via web link. Still to watch game and will do after game tomorrow. Work got in way. Apparently mac played well. I am big Payne fan Ab's should take to wc as is versatile and a game breaker.

Think horne will miss wc his injury will not clear up and is a silly one

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:25 am

StephenFerris6: Dexa scan= BOOM. 5 months of not playing and I'm in exactly the same nic.

Pooly ferris same muscle mass and fitness as before playing 5 months ago. Will be a monster at wc as rested.

Don't get injured please

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:00 am

Where did you read that Matt?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:16 am

Available:

HK Marius Tincu (Romania)
HK Andrew Hore (New Zealand)
HK Tom Lindsay (England)
PR Craig Mitchell (TH) (Wales)
LK Ed Slater (England)
LK Ben Guliver (England)
LK Juandre Kruger (South Africa)
FL Ben Woods (England)
FL Ben Skirving (England)
SH Michael Claassens (South Africa)
CE Maxime Mermoz (France)
CE Dan Hipkiss (England)
CE Luke McAlister (New Zealand)
CE Alex Crockett (England)
WG Luke Fitzgerald (Ireland)
WG Miles Benjamin (England)
WG Riki Sheriff (England)
WG Topsy Ojo (England)

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:33 am

Looks like Twitter Pooly - sure Ferris06 is his user name on that.

Looks like you are putting a fair few players up for sale - might be tempted with something like Fitz and Hipkiss for Lualala?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:41 am

I wouldn't be tempted by that mate, unless you added something else in.

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:37 am

Indeed it was twitter. On rugby heaven the Aussie site they have twitter updates from players on their world cup Microsite.

Hope alberts injury is not too bad he was immense on first 30

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:44 am

Be good to have him back, I really like Ferris. Not sure his muscle mass was an issue though, more no cartilage left in his knee.

Got to get Ferris/SOB/Heaslip starting a few games though at least, amazing backrow that.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:10 pm

That's a backrow that challenges the All Blacks! Think the Irish rely far too heavily on their backrow, not a big fan of their front five. O'Driscoll, Sexton and Bowe are amongst the best backs in Europe - seem to be a real bogey team for England at the moment too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:24 pm

They're front 5 has iproved massivley Chris and with POC back in form they can challenge the best, they totally out muscled England. If they can get that backrow out and fire they are a real outside shot of a semi/final spot in my opinion.

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:14 pm

Funny team Ireland on their day a good side. All they need are some back 3 players.

I rate bowe as one of the best but he has had a horror season and they really miss kearney

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:14 pm

Could say that about lots of ospreys

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:22 pm

Bowe is one of the best, proved that over seasons. Hard to think of a Blues/Ospreys player that's played constantley well over the season.

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:36 pm

Agree with that hope bowe gets his form back. He was good against England and that was about it. Loved watching him on the lions tour

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