England Versus Australia 18th November 2017 3pm k.o.
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England Versus Australia 18th November 2017 3pm k.o.
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A resurgent Wallabies arrive in town with a great opportunity to halt their run of defeats to England. They are in much better current form and are looking sharp. EJs is trying to test out a few new players and rotate his Lions with a long term RWC view. He has said he will take the odd defeat along the way if it helps develop the side longer term. I think this Sat could be one of those defeats.
I do agree with seeing how some different players cope and do not disagree with his approach. Therefore, we need to see Williams, George, Watson (at 15) all start. If Teo was fit I would also go Farrell at 10 and Teo at 12 with Slade at 13 (deserves 1 more go despite being poor on Sat).
Once these AIs are over then I think the time for experimenting is done and we then play each match as if it is our last. This will enable the combinations to bed in and be battle hardened for RWC 2019.
Team: Watson, May, Joseph, Farrell, Daly; Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, Hartley, Cole; Launchbury, Lawes; Robshaw, Underhill, Hughes.
Replacements: George, Marler, Williams, Itoje, Simmonds, Care, Slade, Rokoduguni.
Australia: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Marika Koroibete, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Reece Hodge, 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Will Genia; 1 Scott Sio, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 3 Sekope Kepu, 4 Rob Simmons, 5 Adam Coleman, 6 Ned Hanigan, 7 Michael Hooper, 8 Sean McMahon
Replacements: 16 Stephen Moore, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Allan Alaalatoa, 19 Matt Philip, 20 Ben McCalman, 21 Lopeti Timani, 22 Nick Phipps, 23 Kurtley Beale, 24 Henry Speight*
*one to be omitted
A resurgent Wallabies arrive in town with a great opportunity to halt their run of defeats to England. They are in much better current form and are looking sharp. EJs is trying to test out a few new players and rotate his Lions with a long term RWC view. He has said he will take the odd defeat along the way if it helps develop the side longer term. I think this Sat could be one of those defeats.
I do agree with seeing how some different players cope and do not disagree with his approach. Therefore, we need to see Williams, George, Watson (at 15) all start. If Teo was fit I would also go Farrell at 10 and Teo at 12 with Slade at 13 (deserves 1 more go despite being poor on Sat).
Once these AIs are over then I think the time for experimenting is done and we then play each match as if it is our last. This will enable the combinations to bed in and be battle hardened for RWC 2019.
Team: Watson, May, Joseph, Farrell, Daly; Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, Hartley, Cole; Launchbury, Lawes; Robshaw, Underhill, Hughes.
Replacements: George, Marler, Williams, Itoje, Simmonds, Care, Slade, Rokoduguni.
Australia: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Marika Koroibete, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Reece Hodge, 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Will Genia; 1 Scott Sio, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 3 Sekope Kepu, 4 Rob Simmons, 5 Adam Coleman, 6 Ned Hanigan, 7 Michael Hooper, 8 Sean McMahon
Replacements: 16 Stephen Moore, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Allan Alaalatoa, 19 Matt Philip, 20 Ben McCalman, 21 Lopeti Timani, 22 Nick Phipps, 23 Kurtley Beale, 24 Henry Speight*
*one to be omitted
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Re: England Versus Australia 18th November 2017 3pm k.o.
Ah Robshaw man...England have been their own problem today
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And now he numbe of pens is going to end with a yellow. No wriggle room.vunipola had to come off surely. But even now one scrum pen will result in a bin. Hard call.
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Simmonds on...big call in this gane!
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That offside pen was rubbish though they were all behind the back foot when the ball was lifted ...
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Well. After being better we're well under pressure
Good call hooper
Good call hooper
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But well defended england.
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The Aussies will score with all this pressure
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We have to keep the ball for a long period
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Aus offside at he line-out also - lifter clearly moved in front of catcher to block England.
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That karaveti or whatever he's called is cutting us to shreds
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Kept it up no try.
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But gey say it is but obstruction. Penalty.
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Was the pass to Foley forwards too - looked like it to me
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Definstely obstruction
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Robshaw being very visible in his usual cleaning up the rubbish routine today.
If Daly had made an attempt to tackle and been blocked by Moore that would have been disallowed instantly. Not sure why Daly was spectating.
If Daly had made an attempt to tackle and been blocked by Moore that would have been disallowed instantly. Not sure why Daly was spectating.
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Slade on huge vote of confidence.
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Ribshaw did well in his attempted tackle anyway
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For me he clearly obstructs
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Chieka is a doylum
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Bar his barging of Beale Robshaw has been quality.
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So is Stuart Barnes
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And that’s the game.
Not vintage, but job done.
Not vintage, but job done.
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The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!
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Well. It's still going to be Itoje or Launchbury for motm. Can't see anyone else really.
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Care making a very good case for the starting shirt again.
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Hope tj saved the quote now.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!
That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England.
in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home...
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Beshocked won't be happy....launchbury man of the match
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The Loaded Dog wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!
That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England.
in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home...
My Aussie pals in Albury were adamant they were going to win this one. We had a bet on a case ...I'll have to come over to collect ha ha
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Absolutely sensational from Care...the man's on fire!
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I tipped Oz by 5, lol... only 30 points off the mark!
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GeordieFalcon wrote:The Loaded Dog wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!
That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England.
in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home...
My Aussie pals in Albury were adamant they were going to win this one. We had a bet on a case ...I'll have to come over to collect ha ha
do you need a middle man to help collect?
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Well..the score line is now vintage!
Harsh on Australia.
Harsh on Australia.
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I look forward to beshocked s remarks....After the highlights are shown on bbc.
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Launchbury deserved motm, excellent performance. I thought Robshaw was pretty average tbh, I'd be tempted to swap him out.
Flattering scoreline but OZ were disappointing. Don't see much in the OZ side to suggest they're improving. The game is 80mins, your last 10mins is as important as the first, if not more.
Flattering scoreline but OZ were disappointing. Don't see much in the OZ side to suggest they're improving. The game is 80mins, your last 10mins is as important as the first, if not more.
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Swwwwiinnngggg lowwwwwwwwwwwwww
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The Loaded Dog wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:The Loaded Dog wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!
That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England.
in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home...
My Aussie pals in Albury were adamant they were going to win this one. We had a bet on a case ...I'll have to come over to collect ha ha
do you need a middle man to help collect?
Ha ha Yes!! I was over last October for 3 weeks. Went over to jinder byne and tom groggin etc.
Back next year probably
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That Aussie winger is insanely good!!! Wow.
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Score-line was harsh - and unlucky for Aus that they made a forward pass that was missed to end the game and ended up conceding another try instead
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England are a very good side.
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Hooper...a gentleman in his interview
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Nothing lucky about the score. Those last 3 tries were just excellent skills and execution, the better team.
How many times did Australia threaten our line?
How many times did Australia threaten our line?
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Not saying it was lucky - just makes it look more one-sided than it was ...
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Two near no-tries not good enough I'm afraid. They got punished straight after both 'near misses'.
Even with the ball they failed to hold onto it or turned it over at the crucial moment... or gave away a penalty.
They have only themselves to blame for the final scoreline.
If we don't beat Scotland, then I'll...
Even with the ball they failed to hold onto it or turned it over at the crucial moment... or gave away a penalty.
They have only themselves to blame for the final scoreline.
If we don't beat Scotland, then I'll...
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Farrell just gave his medal to a fan...well done sir
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Lawes voted fans motm.
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greenandpleasantland wrote:Farrell just gave his medal to a fan...well done sir
Saw that, good lad.
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