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Post by Holymiky Wed 22 Nov 2017, 7:17 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the Miky Challenge League


This Week's Fixtures 

Week 10_________Voter 1_________Voter 2_________Voter 3
SAS v Fußball _________Miky _________Bam _________Tino 
Deportivo Moron v Fiorentina Turner _________Nando _________Miky _________Twist 
Olympique Marswag v Ebbsfleet United _________Hero _________Nando _________Marky 
Deportivo Wanka v Shakhtar Senseless _________Olly _________Hero _________Afro 
Kalamazoo Outrage v Cape-Coat Mysterious Dwarfs _________Bam _________Olly _________Trebs 

This Week's Key Deadlines 

Deadlines 

Tuesday - Lawyers announced at midday 
Wednesday Evening - Injuries to be announced 
Thursday Midnight - Squad lockout for that gameweek 
Friday - Releases and Tp's open again 

Links 

Team_________Manager
Kalamazoo Outrage_________Hero 
SAS_________Olly 
Cape-Coast Mysterious Dwarfs_________Afro 
Shakhtar Senseless_________Marky 
Ebbsfleet United_________Twist 
Olympique Marswag_________Miky 
Deportivo Wanka_________Nando 
Fußball_________Trebs 
Deportivo Moron_________Bam 
Fiorentina Turner_________Tino 


Match_________Transfer_________Other
Fixtures_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Youth Rules
Injuries_________Releases_________Press Conferences
_________Confirmation_________
_________Loans_________


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Post by Trebs Wed 13 Dec 2017, 4:34 pm

If you're up for some kind of swap deal I'd buy some of them for equivalently priced players?

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Post by Fernando Wed 13 Dec 2017, 4:47 pm

Depends who...Currently got a £14.8m for Lucas from Bam which im pondering

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Post by Brooksey79 Wed 13 Dec 2017, 7:43 pm

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Post by Fernando Wed 13 Dec 2017, 8:07 pm

Rupert

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Post by Holymiky Wed 13 Dec 2017, 8:47 pm

Results are up.

Everyone can add £1.5m except the following:

Marky - £0
Nando - £750k
Olly - £750k

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Post by Afro Wed 13 Dec 2017, 8:49 pm

Thanks Miky.

I back your decision on your own game Miky. It’s a tricky one, but you’re the league runner and it’s your call. I don’t think the call was an unfair one.
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Post by Fernando Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:17 pm

Twist was over it too

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Post by Hero Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:18 pm

And you by 3 I think

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Post by Fernando Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:20 pm

Twas due to my Attack,Defense,Subs titles i believe after a check Ok! Same as Trebs & Afro Smile

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Post by Hero Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:26 pm

Chop the hands off the lot of ya

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:27 pm

If I was over this week I’m pretty sure I’ve been over most weeks then seeing as pretty much copied and paste Laugh
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Post by Holymiky Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:30 pm

Will be fun when i ban that next season OK

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:32 pm

If everyone is over I think we need to increase the word limit...Whistle
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Post by Afro Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:41 pm

Fernando wrote:Twas due to my Attack,Defense,Subs titles i believe after a check Ok! Same as Trebs & Afro Smile

200 word tactics (only including subs instructions and written instructions)

And I think it’s a fair argument that titles are not instructions but to make it easier to read. So we are only over by virtue of selflessly thinking of the voters
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Post by Holymiky Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:45 pm

If we keep increasing the word count, people keep pushing it and want it increased as always. We can't have pages and pages of tactics each week.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:49 pm

If I’m having this weeks loss by default I need default losses in

Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7

Cos appears I was over 200 all those weeks too
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Post by Afro Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:49 pm

Make it less Miky. 5 for attack, 5 for defence

Score more goals than them.
keep ball away from goal
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:57 pm

Also Klopp is a fraud - again
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Post by Trebs Wed 13 Dec 2017, 10:29 pm

Well played Bam. I didn't think you'd play three at the back and as I said on PM, thought you would get the win.

Still not really sure where I'm going with my team. I presumed I'd need a CB but perhaps it's elsewhere I need to strengthen.

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Post by Trebs Wed 13 Dec 2017, 10:37 pm

Where do people think I need to improve?

Akinfeev
Valencia Jones Kompany Caricol
Sanson Casemiro
Vazquez Payet Rashford
Dzeko

Possibly Young, Falcao, Lingard in the side.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 13 Dec 2017, 10:50 pm

I'd be tempted to play..

--------------Akinfeev-----------
Valencia--Jones--Kompany--Caricol
Vasquez--Sanson--Casemiro--Payet
---------Dzeko--Rashford/Falcao----

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Post by Trebs Wed 13 Dec 2017, 10:52 pm

I could rearrange - I'm just trying to work out where the weaknesses are.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 13 Dec 2017, 10:53 pm

Caricol, and maybe Vasquez for me

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Post by Brooksey79 Wed 13 Dec 2017, 11:38 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 14 Dec 2017, 8:19 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:If I’m having this weeks loss by default I need default losses in

Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7

Cos appears I was over 200 all those weeks too

Is this being enforced? I knew it was going too well to be true Laugh
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Post by TwisT Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:02 am

Fernando wrote:Twist was over it too

It is bang on 200. Just checked again Smile

Morning, I don't really think Olly should lose the wins. I didn't think at any point they were excessive otherwise I would have checked the word count.

I know people like to write tactics in their own way- some do attack and defence whereas others like me have tactics for individual players. What I would suggest for season 2 is we agree on a set format rather than word count......such as two sentences or 20 words per player.

I'm a bit knackered as went to see Queen last night and didn't get home until 1am so apologies if this idea is BS Laugh

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Post by Hero Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:21 am

Do think we need a tightening on word count, what is and isn't included. For me titles such as Defence/Game Plan etc have been and so I've added them to my total when making the tactics, others haven't and that's no fault of theirs but a clarification irons that out.
And what happens if someone is over, by a couple of words, 10, 20, 129 etc?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:26 am

I just think I should be punished for being over for all the weeks I've been over, not just this week tbh. Rules a rule - I genuinely didn't realise I was going over by so much cos I don't do them in word or whatever, but I have been it seems which isn't fair to my opponents and having those extra words could've influenced results
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Post by Hero Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:33 am

I'm one of those that'd get a default win from that Olly and personally I don't want it reversed.
It's been noticed now and addressed but don't think we should start backdating as that sets a dangerous precedent, next someone will notice a signing that wasn't confirmed in Week 1 etc, do we then scrub all results that involve that player, what if that player moved to another club during the period and that was confirmed but the original wasn't, does the new owner then also fall foul of the error?
A line has been drawn in the sand and don't think we then need to start going back with a tooth-comb as we'll end up pulling the league apart.

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Post by Trebs Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:36 am

I get that being over the limit is wrong, but could we just add an extra injury or two or something? Or no lawyers?

I don't think it should be an auto-loss this week or any other week.


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Post by TwisT Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:38 am

The problem with that idea Trebs is that it will help the opponent in the next match and not the opponent in the match the rule was broken.

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Post by Trebs Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:41 am

TwisT wrote:The problem with that idea Trebs is that it will help the opponent in the next match and not the opponent in the match the rule was broken.

Now you're getting it Wink

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Post by Trebs Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:50 am

Joking aside, I don't think the game should just be invalid because he didn't put tactics in within the limit. Seems extremely harsh to me

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Post by BamBam Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:51 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:If I’m having this weeks loss by default I need default losses in

Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7

Cos appears I was over 200 all those weeks too

Definitely week 7 at the least - you filthy cheat

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Post by Brooksey79 Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:55 am

morning lads.....I don't generally check word counts I kinda go on the basis that they're more or less on the limit, it was just that Olly's felt much more "meaty" than Miky's.

Don't think we need to backdate losses whats done is done...but I do think we should increase the limit for season 2 for 500

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Post by BamBam Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:57 am

If I have to read through 500 word tactics I'm just looking at starting 11s and voting based on that .. don't have the attention span for that

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Post by Brooksey79 Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:01 am

I'd wager the majority just base it on starting 11's anyway

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:02 am

BamBam wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:If I’m having this weeks loss by default I need default losses in

Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7

Cos appears I was over 200 all those weeks too

Definitely week 7 at the least - you filthy cheat

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Post by TwisT Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:08 am

Probably why we should return to the idea of getting fifa to do it.

We have never tried this way before I presume? It's just I have been doing these leagues for 5 seasons now and the whole issue of length of tactics always appears.

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Post by Hero Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:31 am

This was the link to the FIFA section we made last time, I'd look in particular towards the tactics part as I'd templated every possible formation option for ease of use for everyone:

https://www.606v2.com/f240-the-fifa-league

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Post by BamBam Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:40 am

I really liked the FIFA idea and was disappointed it didn't take off

Definitely wouldn't mind going back to that

Equally, I have no problem with the current approach, and think everyone has mostly stuck reasonably to the rules

Olly is the exception, and given he has 20% more fingers and toes than everyone else, its only fair to give him a pass on a slightly higher word count

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Post by Brooksey79 Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:44 am

I wouldn't be against the Fifa thing, but isn't that proper time consuming for the person doing it

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Post by Hero Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:48 am

Brooksey79 wrote:I wouldn't be against the Fifa thing, but isn't that proper time consuming for the person doing it

It's improved tbh from what it was, back when we initially trialled it Fifa didn't have the option if you had 2 CPUs to skip intros which used to take up ages every game, it does allow it now so the streaming of games should be quicker.
I won't lie and say it's not time consuming but I didn't mind doing the legwork on it.

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Post by Brooksey79 Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:52 am

can you sim the games? like you can on career mode?

so would you create a tournament with all the managers teams and let them do the fixtures etc

lot for you to do though with the amount of transfers etc

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Post by TwisT Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:55 am

Hero wrote:
Brooksey79 wrote:I wouldn't be against the Fifa thing, but isn't that proper time consuming for the person doing it

It's improved tbh from what it was, back when we initially trialled it Fifa didn't have the option if you had 2 CPUs to skip intros which used to take up ages every game, it does allow it now so the streaming of games should be quicker.
I won't lie and say it's not time consuming but I didn't mind doing the legwork on it.

How about if it was 2 leagues of 4 or 6 with two league runners? Top 2 in each have semi finals and finals. 2 league runners would lessen the burden then a one big league?

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Post by Hero Thu 14 Dec 2017, 10:57 am

Could sim the games entirely yeah, previously when trialled we just had the CPU play itself and I streamed it on Twitch so people involved in the game could watch their team.
The initial rush of transfers is the main ballache, after that it's just ensuring that before matchday any transfers that week are updated.
People then use the templates provided by FIFA for individual player instructions as well as overall team strategy and formation.

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Post by Trebs Thu 14 Dec 2017, 11:04 am

What about doing a Christmas cup trial with FIFA?

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Post by Brooksey79 Thu 14 Dec 2017, 11:08 am

good job Fifa is in my christmas list so I can find the pace-abusers to snaffle up

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Post by BamBam Thu 14 Dec 2017, 11:10 am

CPU sim games tend not to be so much about pace

This FIFA isn't massively pace heavy either tbh

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Post by Hero Thu 14 Dec 2017, 11:11 am

Trebs wrote:What about doing a Christmas cup trial with FIFA?

I could sort that

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