Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[McLaren]

First topic message reminder :

Kwini

It amazes me that a professional footballer can end up one footed. Just practice with your weak foot every day.

I remember spending a summer playing with only my left foot in the garden. Came back next season two footed.

[Be_the_ball]

I'd love it if Ecuador were playing football and they put on 'Ecuador' by Sash....... "Ecuador!"

[kwinigolfer]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49662134


On the job . . . . .

This happened to a friend of mine (wonder if Shotrock knew him?) about 20+ years ago, though the only compensation he received was a number of very funny jokey references from the priest at an American Irish funeral.

[Be_the_ball]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49662134


On the job . . . . .

This happened to a friend of mine (wonder if Shotrock knew him?) about 20+ years ago, though the only compensation he received was a number of very funny jokey references from the priest at an American Irish funeral.

What a way to go...

[kwinigolfer]

Love the Norwich result; if Phil Foden is all he's cracked up to be, why does he get marooned on the bench?
Great that Frank Lampard is giving his academy players a chance . . . . . . . and so far he's being rewarded.

[super_realist]

Like many things that come out of America Kwini, the appreciation seems forced and over acted.

[kwinigolfer]

Usually led by draft dodgers . . . . . . . . Oh no, I can feel a bone spur coming on.

[dynamark]

Good one for super here.
News today a former govt advisor worried about extreme weather and the next item was the hole in the ozone layer is much smaller this year than recent years.
I was in Majorca last week and we had a hailstorm(golf ball size- this is a golf forum) that trashed my hire car along with most others in the town but the locals said 'we get that once or twice a year'

[Be_the_ball]

Good interview with Michael Owen here, he covers some of the latest Shearer spat - https://youtu.be/iNLFrz1eGqU

A class player in his day.

[super_realist]

Good one for super here.
News today a former govt advisor worried about extreme weather and the next item was the hole in the ozone layer is much smaller this year than recent years.
I was in Majorca last week and we had a hailstorm(golf ball size- this is a golf forum) that trashed my hire car along with most others in the town but the locals said 'we get that once or twice a year'

That's one of the annoying things. As soon as we get something which is outside a normal benign day, awful journalists like the BBC automatically put it down to or infer in a lecturing fashion that human influenced climate change is to blame when in reality we get things like convectional rainfall  happening simply if we've had a few hot days.

One of the other things which gets my goat is the claim that we are doomed should the earth rise 1.5c. In human history do they really think the earth has not been 1.5c hotter than it is now? There was no crisis then and there isn't now, whilst we are more prepared than ever to deal with the effects anyway.

Also, just how accurate, consistent and widespread were the locations where they recorded temperature during the 20th century to make comparisons with? No doubt they are very much more accurate, widespread and numerous now than they were then. They aren't comparing like with like. I've heard that for much of the 20th century they had fewer than 10 stations in all of Africa, so now with many more in more locations of course you are going to get a different picture and on a much more local basis.

Of course the climate is changing, of course our species has had an influence but the degree to which they sensationalise the issue as if we are facing impending doom within a decade is laughable and is the dishonest bit these alarmists tag onto climate change for sensationalist purposes, that and their rank hypocrisy of targeting only the sources of CO2 that suit them (and which are often incredibly minor contributions) whilst ignoring all the ones that don't suit their campaign and which they like to use.

Funny how whenever you see these soap dodgers protesting, many of them are puffing away on roll-ups or munching on an avocado sandwich. They couldn't even see the irony and hypocrisy if you slapped them in the face with it.

[JAS]

Call it 5 points. Under 5 jas makes a small donation to the tories,over 5 realist makes a small donation to the snp.

Deal?

Seconded.

Big step closer to not having to donate to the wretched Tories. ;-)

[super_realist]

Call it 5 points. Under 5 jas makes a small donation to the tories,over 5 realist makes a small donation to the snp.

Deal?

Seconded.

Big step closer to not having to donate to the wretched Tories. ;-)

What makes you say that? Corbyn couldn't win a raffle.

[McLaren]

Super

If you were designing a brexit policy for a party post the 2016 leave vote what would it be?


I would pretty much propose the cancel brexit policy the lib dems offer.

[super_realist]

I don't know Mac, but I wouldn't cancel Brexit because like it or not most people in the UK want Brexit.

Swinson has shot herself in the foot as a viable party to vote for by saying she would ignore the result of another referendum.

[McLaren]

Swinton is pretty tidy though.

[navyblueshorts]

Swinton is pretty tidy though.

The insurers??

[McLaren]

Navy you seem to spend a lot of time worrying about my auto complete.

[super_realist]

Swinton is pretty tidy though.

Jesus Mac, you really do like the frumpy type don't you?

[McLaren]

Who else are you counting as frumpy?

[super_realist]

Who else are you counting as frumpy?

Laura Kuensberg and Mirka Federer.

Should you not be out with the rest of the climate change rent a mob hypocrites today Mac?

[JAS]

Call it 5 points. Under 5 jas makes a small donation to the tories,over 5 realist makes a small donation to the snp.

Deal?

Seconded.

Big step closer to not having to donate to the wretched Tories. ;-)

What makes you say that? Corbyn couldn't win a raffle.

Wooooooooosssshhh!!!

Did you hear that? It was the sound of the point whooshing past, I take it you missed it!!

Beninho & Navy (seconded) proposed, based on what I’d said, that if Rangers gained less than 5 points in the EL group stage then I had to make a charitable donation to the Tories. So...3 points after game one is a big step closer to not needing to do so. Obviously not done yet but you’d think they’d now manage at least 2 points from their next 5 games. They’ve been a bit below expectation in recent years but Feyenoord were unbeaten this season until last night, so has to go down as a decent result for the currant buns.

[JAS]

Swinson?? Jeezus MAC, you’re weird!!!

[super_realist]

Call it 5 points. Under 5 jas makes a small donation to the tories,over 5 realist makes a small donation to the snp.

Deal?

Seconded.

Big step closer to not having to donate to the wretched Tories. ;-)

What makes you say that? Corbyn couldn't win a raffle.

Wooooooooosssshhh!!!  

Did you hear that? It was the sound of the point whooshing past, I take it you missed it!!

Beninho & Navy (seconded) proposed, based on what I’d said, that if Rangers gained less than 5 points in the EL group stage then I had to make a charitable donation to the Tories. So...3 points after game one is a big step closer to not needing to do so. Obviously not done yet but you’d think they’d now manage at least 2 points from their next 5 games. They’ve been a bit below expectation in recent years but Feyenoord were unbeaten this season until last night, so has to go down as a decent result for the currant buns.

Sorry, getting confused with everything going on with political parties.

[super_realist]

Swinson?? Jeezus MAC, you’re weird!!!

He probably thinks Diane Abbot is a bit of alright too.

Speaking of Labour, I see that utter imbecile McDonnell is backing the abolition of private schooling. Would love to see how he'd find the extra money (£45bn) to educate the hundreds of thousands of pupils moving to the public sector.

[McLaren]

Mirka is not a personal favorite of mine I just said she was OK looking.

But I think we will all agree Emma Watson was a good shout.

[JAS]

Swinson?? Jeezus MAC, you’re weird!!!

He probably thinks Diane Abbot is a bit of alright too.

Speaking of Labour, I see that utter imbecile McDonnell is backing the abolition of private schooling. Would love to see how he'd find the extra money (£45bn) to educate the hundreds of thousands of pupils moving to the public sector.

Abolishing Private schooling or ending the charitable status of private schools?

Where’s Diggers when we need him?

And anyway after nearly 10 years of these public service vandals in power what makes you think we should only be looking at an extra £45bn for education? Education, like the NHS is chronically underfunded, teaching authorities are now realising what a totally fecked up, short termist nonsense academisation is.

What I would say that day one of any Non Tory govt, be it Labour or a coalition, their priority should be rectifying the current mess in the state sector caused by the combination of chronic underfunding and the ideological horse Poopie that is academisation.

[super_realist]

Mirka is not a personal favorite of mine I just said she was OK looking.

But I think we will all agree Emma Watson was a good shout.

Not when you said it.

[navyblueshorts]

Navy you seem to spend a lot of time worrying about my auto complete.

Not really. Haven't commented on an error of yours for an age. Too easy a target to be fair .

Swintson is pretty tidy though.

Also, for a SJW, you do tend to post a lot of comments like the above, don't you? A bit peculiar...

[super_realist]

Swinson?? Jeezus MAC, you’re weird!!!

He probably thinks Diane Abbot is a bit of alright too.

Speaking of Labour, I see that utter imbecile McDonnell is backing the abolition of private schooling. Would love to see how he'd find the extra money (£45bn) to educate the hundreds of thousands of pupils moving to the public sector.

Abolishing Private schooling or ending the charitable status of private schools?

Where’s Diggers when we need him?

And anyway after nearly 10 years of these public service vandals in power what makes you think we should only be looking at an extra £45bn for education?   Education, like the NHS is chronically underfunded, teaching authorities are now realising what a totally fecked up, short termist nonsense academisation is.

What I would say that day one of any Non Tory govt, be it Labour or a coalition, their priority should be rectifying the current mess in the state sector caused by the combination of chronic underfunding  and the ideological horse Poopie that is academisation.

No, McDonnel actually wants private schools to be abolished. What an idiot.  As you say education is already underfunded. How is abolishing private schools going to help the funding of state schools that already exist? How would it benefit anyone in the state school sector or pull their results up?

By the way, only 1 in 15 people goes to private school, but 1 in 7 of A Level passes are from private schools, so sending everyone to comprehensives is only going to dumb down the UK lower than it already is, so although I didn't go to a private school, I can appreciate that it can create better results than a state school.

Yes, the NHS is underfunded, but it's also put under a lot of needless strain from our useless fat population leeching money for their obesity related issues. Blaming any government for the NHS is only half of the problem. No one ever seems to want to blame our increasingly sedate and worthless population.

Why would anyone want to end charitable status for a school? If you're looking to end charitable status for anything it should be religious institutions. Think how much revenue you could bring in if these fairy tale book clubs actually paid their dues on the property they own and the income they generate? Doesn't the Church of England have one of the largest property portfolios in the UK, yet they don't pay a brass farthing for any of them.

Schools are important to society and are worth keeping in charitable status, imaginary friend clubs are not. Why won't McDonnel etc go after them? I'm sure his mob would love to tax synagogues for instance.

[superflyweight]

Swinson?? Jeezus MAC, you’re weird!!!

He probably thinks Diane Abbot is a bit of alright too.

Speaking of Labour, I see that utter imbecile McDonnell is backing the abolition of private schooling. Would love to see how he'd find the extra money (£45bn) to educate the hundreds of thousands of pupils moving to the public sector.

Abolishing Private schooling or ending the charitable status of private schools?

Where’s Diggers when we need him?

And anyway after nearly 10 years of these public service vandals in power what makes you think we should only be looking at an extra £45bn for education?   Education, like the NHS is chronically underfunded, teaching authorities are now realising what a totally fecked up, short termist nonsense academisation is.

What I would say that day one of any Non Tory govt, be it Labour or a coalition, their priority should be rectifying the current mess in the state sector caused by the combination of chronic underfunding  and the ideological horse Poopie that is academisation.

No, McDonnel actually wants private schools to be abolished. What an idiot.  As you say education is already underfunded. How is abolishing private schools going to help the funding of state schools that already exist? How would it benefit anyone in the state school sector or pull their results up?

By the way, only 1 in 15 people goes to private school, but 1 in 7 of A Level passes are from private schools, so sending everyone to comprehensives is only going to dumb down the UK lower than it already is, so although I didn't go to a private school, I can appreciate that it can create better results than a state school.

Yes, the NHS is underfunded, but it's also put under a lot of needless strain from our useless fat population leeching money for their obesity related issues. Blaming any government for the NHS is only half of the problem. No one ever seems to want to blame our increasingly sedate and worthless population.

Why would anyone want to end charitable status for a school? If you're looking to end charitable status for anything it should be religious institutions. Think how much revenue you could bring in if these fairy tale book clubs actually paid their dues on the property they own and the income they generate? Doesn't the Church of England have one of the largest property portfolios in the UK, yet they don't pay a brass farthing for any of them.

Schools are important to society and are worth keeping in charitable status, imaginary friend clubs are not. Why won't McDonnel etc go after them? I'm sure his mob would love to tax synagogues for instance.

It's the elderly who are the biggest 'strain' on the NHS. What do you propose - mandatory euthanisa when people reach 55?

[pedro]

It wouldn’t be needed. There’d be plenty of money for the elderly if you allow nature to take care of the obese.

[McLaren]

Super is more likely to propose the euthanasia of fats and high handicappers.

[super_realist]

It's the elderly who are the biggest 'strain' on the NHS.  What do you propose - mandatory euthanisa when people reach 55?

Of course not, but we need to stop pretending that the problems the NHS faces are all down to lack of investment. Something like 20% of expenditure is related to diabetes type 2 and obesity. Something which is entirely preventable. Think about that next time one of your relatives gets a cancer diagnosis and is put in a queue for treatment.

Britain is strangling the NHS with it's own lifestyle choices and sits back with a bag of crisps and blames whichever government is in charge.  We really are a sh*t country.

[kwinigolfer]

It's the elderly who are the biggest 'strain' on the NHS.  What do you propose - mandatory euthanisa when people reach 55?

Of course not, but we need to stop pretending that the problems the NHS faces are all down to lack of investment. Something like 20% of expenditure is related to diabetes type 2 and obesity. Something which is entirely preventable. Think about that next time one of your relatives gets a cancer diagnosis and is put in a queue for treatment.

Britain is strangling the NHS with it's own lifestyle choices and sits back with a bag of crisps and blames whichever government is in charge.  We really are a sh*t country.

We're not a sh*t country, but more appropriate disincentives for poor lifestyle choices are way overdue, in the USA as well (or especially).
It's not just the direct cost, but the collateral cost with hospital resources being strained as they divert resources to treating serial abusers, whether drug, alcohol (and I'm right on the edge here), tobacco, sugared water (known commercially as Coke, Pepsi etc), unhealthy food choices, even abuse of prescription drugs.
If countries invested 10% of the cost of direct and indirect treatment we'd cut the cost of health care almost overnight.
Then you get idiots introducing vaping - talk about a self-induced problem that now has to be addressed.

[super_realist]

Depends what you compare us too Kwini. The UK is terrible at lots of things, and being healthy human beings with self respect is one of them.

We are however excellent at blaming others for our own predicament.

[JAS]

Oh dear, here we go, the farce takes yet another twist. Will Bojo ignore, resign or call a GE or a combination.

[Roller_Coaster]

I'll be interested to see how many MP's actually turn up. Would be hysterical if they moan about prorogation but do the usual no-show.

[super_realist]

Corbyn will be desperate to get back as his conference is a mess.

[kwinigolfer]

Expect Boris the Spider will already have gone to Drumpf for tips on what to do next . . . . . . . two awful people.

[super_realist]

Expect Boris the Spider will already have gone to Drumpf for tips on what to do next . . . . . . . two awful people.

Can't think of anyone in politics leadership who is in any way credible or likeable.

[pedro]

Expect Boris the Spider will already have gone to Drumpf for tips on what to do next . . . . . . . two awful people.

Can't think of anyone in politics leadership who is in any way credible or likeable.

Greta Thunberg?






I’ll get my coat...

[super_realist]

Expect Boris the Spider will already have gone to Drumpf for tips on what to do next . . . . . . . two awful people.

Can't think of anyone in politics leadership who is in any way credible or likeable.

Greta Thunberg?






I’ll get my coat...

 She's a disgrace. An hysterical, shrieking idiot. She completely lost the plot yesterday and showed herself to be the credential free mouthpiece of a warped and dishonest campaign group.

Climate change protest is fine, spreading nonsense and sensationalist propaganda which is not supported by science is not

[pedro]

“I want you to panic.”

Quote Greta

[beninho]

Now I'm not a big climate change evangelist. But young Greta is doing a great job at getting it out there and getting a younger generation to understand the issues facing the country.

The fact that big business fan mr realist hates her, makes me like her more.

[kwinigolfer]

ben,
My boys made a mess in HW last Saturday - nice work for your guys, way beyond time for us to change our Jackett. And a right thumping this evening should hasten the process.

[beninho]

Chairboys have had a great start to the season, a win over pompy was very nice. Always good to beat the big clubs of the league!

[super_realist]

Now I'm not a big climate change evangelist. But young Greta is doing a great job at getting it out there and getting a younger generation to understand the issues facing the country.

The fact that big business fan mr realist hates her, makes me like her more.

She's simply a talking head for whichever organisation is financing her (and putting up someone with mental health issues is clearly pretty disgraceful). She has no credentials whatsoever in regards to climate. She is spreading hysteria and making claims that simply aren't true. She claims entire eco systems are dying. Name one.

Furthermore who is she to decide what should be the climatic optimum? She is making the claim that climate change is bad, yet for the vast majority of people it will make virtually no difference. Who is she to decide that people shouldn't be able to meet their energy demands? Why is she addressing governments? Why isn't she addressing those with an energy demand, i.e. individuals? It is individuals who decide demand, not governments. Why does she only attack certain sources of CO2 and ignore others?
Why does she think she should be the person who decides that third world countries should remain in squalor, rather than develop technology which enables them to improve their lives?

She's just another spoiled brat with a long line of hypocrisy behind her. She should be back at school learning how to make a public address without looking like the horrible, shrieking moron.

[beninho]

Mental health issues?

Realist, you are like that bloke on fox news I just read about, who called her a mentally ill swedish child. You are basically on the right wing lunatic side and even Fox news had to apologise.

Anyway, you keep hating a 16 year old. Who is giving speeches at the UN. And live in your bubble on the same side of the argument as trump and the Brazilian guy.

[navyblueshorts]

Mental health issues?

Realist, you are like that bloke on fox news I just read about, who called her a mentally ill swedish child. You are basically on the right wing lunatic side and even Fox news had to apologise.

Anyway, you keep hating a 16 year old. Who is giving speeches at the UN. And live in your bubble on the same side of the argument as trump and the Brazilian guy.

Do you not read the background relevant to what you're discussing? It's acknowledged she is someone with ASD, OCD etc. Mentally ill? Questionable, but you know what he meant. I agree with a lot of the climate change arguments etc, but Thunberg is showing how to p!ss a lot of ordinary people off, which is not helping her make her points. Guess she's not familiar with how Trump got in and how we have Brexit here...

[McLaren]

Super

Great barrier reef is dying and will be gone at 1.5 increase in global average temp. We are at 1.2.

As always I encourage you to read the latest ipcc report or its summary.

On greta

Her credentials are now that she is able to bring people together to carry out activism for actions to limit human caused climate change. An issue where changing government policy is the only way forward. She has put in motion changed beyond middle class people having a rycling bin.

[pedro]

Exactly navy. If you read the news, they don't write about the climate, they write about Greta. Climate was already on the agenda before Greta emerged, she's just contributing to panic and hysteria amongst her disciples in the echo chamber.

Yes, energy can be used more efficiently in the West, in the US in particular, but the only sustainable long term solution will be technological advances, barring in the mind the population explosion in the 3rd world. Changing peoples lives in the West to the worse will not work (this has been tried throughout history) by telling us how to live our lives and by enforcing expensive ineffective solutions - especially when large parts of the West may in fact benefit from climate change. Not trying to be a party pooper, but as long as anti-capitalists/anti-industrialists/snowflakes have such a prominent voice in the climate debate, climate policies as on the table in the West/Europe today will have the same long term effect as p!ssing in our pants.

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