Wales vs England - Build Up/Match Thread - 27-2-21

[TightHEAD]

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Wales v England

27th Feb

KO 16:46

England:

Daly;
Watson,
Slade,
Farrell,
May;
Ford,
Youngs;
M Vunipola,
George,
Sinckler,
Itoje,
Hill,
Wilson,
Curry,
B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Genge, Stuart, Ewels, Martin, Earl, Robson, Malins.

WALES

1. Wyn Jones (32 Caps)
2. Ken Owens (79 Caps)
3. Tomas Francis (54 Caps)
4. Adam Beard (23 Caps)
5. Alun Wyn Jones (CAPT) (145 Caps)
6. Josh Navidi (25 Caps)
7. Justin Tipuric (82 Caps)
8. Taulupe Faletau (83 Caps)
9. Kieran Hardy (3 Caps)
10. Dan Biggar (89 Caps)
11. Josh Adams (29 Caps)
12. Jonathan Davies (85 Caps)
13. George North (99 Caps)
14. Louis Rees-Zammit (6 Caps)
15. Liam Williams (68 Caps)

Replacements:

16. Elliot Dee (34 Caps)
17. Rhodri Jones (19 Caps)
18. Leon Brown (14 Caps)
19. Cory Hill (29 Caps)
20. James Botham (4 Caps)
21. Gareth Davies (59 Caps)
22. Callum Sheedy (6 Caps)
23. Uilisi Halaholo (1 Cap)

[Heaf]

Jiffy saying the ref is his MOM was funny though

[king_carlos]

England are moving the ball and making headway but the Wales defence out wide has been good on the scramble. North using his experience well, plus Adams and Williams are excellent positionally.

[doctor_grey]

Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

Jamie Noon

[king_carlos]

Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

It's difficult not to. The things Underhill does well he does as well as any.

[mikey_dragon]

Bringing off Beard is a bad move.

[No 7&1/2]

God daly has become a below average international.

[miltonkeynesengland]

Has Dale got soap on his hands??

[Sgt_Pooly]

Daly drops another one...

[eirebilly]

Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

I actually think they are missing a ball playing 12 myself...

[bsando]

He's not been in the best form for England this 6N

[Collapse2005]

Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

Think they need a bit more than that, they look like they have been training in Weatherspoons.

[king_carlos]

God daly has become a below average international.

The drop off from his best in attack is incredibly frustrating.

[tigertattie]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

[owen10ozzy]

Daly!!! Utterly useless! Him...Farrell & Youngs should be nowhere this team based off the year or so! They have been tripe the entire time

[doctor_grey]

Daly drops another one...

At least he is consistent.

[quinsforever]

daly absolutely useless. for the third time so far. what a waste of a shirt

[doctor_grey]

Daly has never had a poor game like this. And he is one of the only players trying to attack. But it is time to get him off (the pitch).

[owen10ozzy]

If Englands kicking mentality wasnt clear for everyone to see before hand...that right then shows why its dire watching us atm!

[No 7&1/2]

Daly butchered that ball to may as well. Need to change things up.

[tigertattie]

Brian Moore is gonna explode

[Scottrf]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

It did. He knocked it forward so he has to catch it before it hits the ground or another player. Re-read the law carefully.

[doctor_grey]

Do I have to say it about Ford again?

[Poorfour]

Oh, so it’s a clear side entry when England do it but play on when Wales do it?

[eirebilly]

Where the hell is Farrell in attack? England need a 12...

[Heaf]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

Yes it was - read the actual laws as written not what people think they say ... he knocked it forwards with his hand and didn't regather it ...

[doctor_grey]

Oh, so it’s a clear side entry when England do it but play on when Wales do it?

But it was the right call.

[owen10ozzy]

And again....its like watching a school outfit play Rugby for the 1st time!!! How on earth do they not know the basics of the game. Its shocking how many penalities they give away every single game.

[doctor_grey]

Oh, so it’s a clear side entry when England do it but play on when Wales do it?

But it was the right call.

[king_carlos]

George North has been superb in defence from 13.

Once again England are building pressure quickly when they go through phases.

[Sgt_Pooly]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

It was a knock on as he didn't re-gather the ball.

[No 7&1/2]

Nice.

[owen10ozzy]

It would be Youngs wouldnt it! Lol!

[Duty281]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

Correct. It went backwards off his leg. No knock-on and a fair try.

All four qualified officials thought it was a try, not one thought it was a knock-on. Strange, eh?

[Geordie]

Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

Jamie Noon

Are you 6 year old....

[No 7&1/2]

I'd have actually liked to see youngs knock that on so we got a pen try and williams in the bin.

[king_carlos]

Yes Lenny. He has had a very good game in my opinion.

[mikey_dragon]

Another fake try.

[Duty281]

Nice try. England should trust themselves more with ball in hand.

[Sgt_Pooly]

Youngs is so much better when he doesn't pass!

England the better side this half, we should go on to win this.

[tigertattie]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

It was a knock on as he didn't re-gather the ball.

Show me the law that says the player has to regather it. You can’t as it doesn’t exist.

It is NOT a knock on until it hits another player or the ground. He knocked it forward but then it hit himself and the ball went backwards to ground (not forwards) therefore it is not a knock on

[doctor_grey]

Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

Jamie Noon

Are you 6 year old....

OK. I will be good. I do agree Underhill would have made a big difference.

[No 7&1/2]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

Correct. It went backwards off his leg. No knock-on and a fair try.

All four qualified officials thought it was a try, not one thought it was a knock-on. Strange, eh?

You miss the point where he knocked on was several steps ahead of slade making contact though. Easy mistake to make.

[Geordie]

Where the hell is Farrell in attack? England need a 12...

Wyeth I said Farrell was going to ge MOM.....

I lied...

[owen10ozzy]

Nice try. England should trust themselves more with ball in hand.

Could not be more spot on that Duty! Hence its so frustrating seeing them play the way they do...a refusal to go through the phases

[doctor_grey]

And that was a vintage Youngs sneaky try. He has always had that eye for a gap, but haven't seen it much lately.

[Scottrf]

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

It was a knock on as he didn't re-gather the ball.

Show me the law that says the player has to regather it. You can’t as it doesn’t exist.

It is NOT a knock on until it hits another player or the ground. He knocked it forward but then it hit himself and the ball went backwards to ground (not forwards) therefore it is not a knock on

‘ Knock-on: When a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.’
When a player loses possession and it goes forward and hits a player or the ground before he can CATCH it.

[Guest]

Ffs England, spoiling our grand slam chances!

[Guest]

Blatant push there!

[formerly known as Sam]

And that was a vintage Youngs sneaky try.  He has always had that eye for a gap, but haven't seen it much lately.    

Controversial opinion here but I think he's played well today. Good battle between him and Hardy.

[eirebilly]

Fine hit there, nothing too see

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