England: Autumn Internationals

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England squad for autumn Tests:

Forwards: Jamie Blamire (Newcastle), Callum Chick (Newcastle), Jamie George (Saracens), Tom Curry (Sale), Trevor Davison (Newcastle), Nic Dolly (Leicester), Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Ellis Genge (Leicester), Jonny Hill (Exeter), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Courtney Lawes (Northampton), Lewis Ludlam (Northampton), Joe Marler (Harlequins), George Martin (Leicester), Sam Simmonds (Exeter), Kyle Sinckler (Bristol), Will Stuart (Bath), Sam Underhill (Bath)

Backs: Mark Atkinson (Gloucester), Owen Farrell (Saracens), Tommy Freeman (Northampton), George Furbank (Northampton), Max Malins (Saracens), Jonny May (Gloucester), Raffi Quirke (Sale), Adam Radwan (Newcastle), Harry Randall (Bristol), Henry Slade (Exeter), Marcus Smith (Harlequins), Freddie Steward (Leicester), Manu Tuilagi (Sale), Joe Marchant (Quins), Ben Youngs (Leicester)

In Positions:
1.Marler, Genge
2.George, Blamire, Dolly
3.Sinckler, Stuart, Davison
4.Itoje, Hill
5.Lawes, Ewels
6.Curry, Martin
7.Underhill, Ludlam
8.Dombrandt, Simmonds, Chick

9.Youngs, Randall, Quirke
10.Smith

11.May, Radwan
12.Farrell, Atkinson
13.Tuilagi, Slade
14.Freeman, Marchant
15.Steward, Malins, Furbank
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England v Tonga - 6th November
England v Australia - 13th November
England v South Africa - 20th November

Great opportunity for Rodd. I always thought he looked solid in the set piece but not much in terms of carrying....I've read the opposite from a few posters. Anyone with a bit more insight? Not seen Sale a great deal tbh

Interview with Eddie and Chieka...jeez if I had drink everytime I heard the word mate...I'd be sozzled...

Flatman great. Larkham less so.

Brilliant. Farrell and Smith show.

Yes!!

Farrell and Smith working together very nicely indeed there.

Lovely line from Steward as well.

Stewards put his stamp on this game already

Think they should be letting Smith take place kicks though.

GeordieFalcon wrote:Stewards put his stamp on this game already

So has Smith, sublime pass!

How many Carrie's has sinkler made already....wow

That's some touch finder!

I doubt that will be the last time we see Marcus Smith put Steward through a gap.

Bit harsh that considering Hill fell rolled away and no one challenged.

How big do they want their flipping catterpiller

No 7&1/2 wrote:Bit harsh that considering Hill fell rolled away and no one challenged.

Plus when the tackled player went to ground all the Oz forwards were on the wrong side ...

GeordieFalcon wrote:How big do they want their flipping catterpiller

It just needs banning. England do it too. All sides do. I hate it.

And that's why tuilagi ain't a winger. Please note and bring back Radwan for next week. Cheers.

Manu trying to do something he never does there. Unsurprising unforced error.

king_carlos wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:How big do they want their flipping catterpiller

It just needs banning. England do it too. All sides do. I hate it.

Really hard to do in law. There just needs to be a hassle on the ruck. You've secured it good you have 3 2 1 use it.

Awful by youngs.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

king_carlos wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:How big do they want their flipping catterpiller

It just needs banning. England do it too. All sides do. I hate it.

Really hard to do in law. There just needs to be a hassle on the ruck. You've secured it good you have 3 2 1 use it.

Agree, with or without the caterpillar, I want to vomit when halfbacks take that long to play the ball. Herschell Jantjies is especially slow at doing it

Old Man wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

king_carlos wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:How big do they want their flipping catterpiller

It just needs banning. England do it too. All sides do. I hate it.

Really hard to do in law. There just needs to be a hassle on the ruck. You've secured it good you have 3 2 1 use it.

Agree, with or without the caterpillar, I want to vomit when halfbacks take that long to play the ball. Herschell Jantjies is especially slow at doing it

Though some would say slowing it all down is a key part of SA at the moment.

Aussie scrum is going to be interesting rest of the game

Slade butchered that.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Awful by youngs.

Smith also attempted a dire chip on advantage that you didn't mention. Doesn't mean that chip wasn't rubbish but thought I'd just mention it as a good example of you obsessively mentioning every mistake from certain players but ignoring them from others.

Ah Slade ballsed that up!!

England should be doing more from quick ball there. Frustrating.

king_carlos wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Awful by youngs.

Smith also attempted a dire chip on advantage that you didn't mention. Doesn't mean that chip wasn't rubbish but thought I'd just mention it as a good example of you obsessively mentioning every mistake from certain players but ignoring them from others.

Eh. I don't understand. Youngs kicked away scrum advantage?

No 7&1/2 wrote:

king_carlos wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Awful by youngs.

Smith also attempted a dire chip on advantage that you didn't mention. Doesn't mean that chip wasn't rubbish but thought I'd just mention it as a good example of you obsessively mentioning every mistake from certain players but ignoring them from others.

Eh. I don't understand. Youngs kicked away aurum advantage?

Smith also made an abysmal chip on advantage that went unmentioned, pretty obvious point.

The way Smith plays, it is surprising he does not get hit like that more often!

England will need to mix up their attack. Smith being able to hang in behind for that ball out the back is a great option but if used every time defence can drift onto him as happened there. Good read by the Australia defence but easily telegraphed from England.

Great hit...but knocked himself out = not a good hit

king_carlos wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

king_carlos wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Awful by youngs.

Smith also attempted a dire chip on advantage that you didn't mention. Doesn't mean that chip wasn't rubbish but thought I'd just mention it as a good example of you obsessively mentioning every mistake from certain players but ignoring them from others.

Eh. I don't understand. Youngs kicked away aurum advantage?

Smith also made an abysmal chip on advantage that went unmentioned, pretty obvious point.

On scrum? Ok. Fair enough I'll try to be fair when he reaches 100 caps .

BigGee wrote:The way Smith plays, it is surprising he does not get hit like that more often!

He's got such brilliant hands that he gets the ball away moments before contact very frequently. Whether the quicker line speed from international defences will see him get hit more whilst doing so could be interesting. Russell and Sexton both take a lot more hits when playing flat for Scotland and Ireland than they do with Montpellier and Leinster. Both are still very effective though.

Ref should have let May have a run there before blowing ...

Red?

No 7&1/2 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

king_carlos wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:How big do they want their flipping catterpiller

It just needs banning. England do it too. All sides do. I hate it.

Really hard to do in law. There just needs to be a hassle on the ruck. You've secured it good you have 3 2 1 use it.

Agree, with or without the caterpillar, I want to vomit when halfbacks take that long to play the ball. Herschell Jantjies is especially slow at doing it

Though some would say slowing it all down is a key part of SA at the moment.

Doesn't mean I like it.

England's forwards are shifting the ball around contact really well so far today. It's a tactic I'd love them to use more when carrying around the fringes.

red ..

Bye bye

Old Man wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

king_carlos wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:How big do they want their flipping catterpiller

It just needs banning. England do it too. All sides do. I hate it.

Really hard to do in law. There just needs to be a hassle on the ruck. You've secured it good you have 3 2 1 use it.

Agree, with or without the caterpillar, I want to vomit when halfbacks take that long to play the ball. Herschell Jantjies is especially slow at doing it

Though some would say slowing it all down is a key part of SA at the moment.

Doesn't mean I like it.

I know. Said in jest mate.

no worries

Very lucky to come away from that with yellow. Mitigation being used there that isn't in the Mitigation rule book.

Seen reds given for less!

Still the game will be better for a yellow!

Hmmm ... George was moving at speed so the collision was at speed ... that's SA officials for you ...

Lawes has been taking lessons from smith

The caterpillar can be fixed simply by saying the 9 has 5 seconds to play it as soon as 9 touches the ball, even with his foot

Unstructured play what can Farrell do with it....kick lol

Horrible by officials. Tuilagi taken off the ball when running onto it.

Peyper will be needing a new pee for his whistle at half time ...