Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[super_realist]

First topic message reminder :

Will Alec Baldwin go to jail for the manslaughter of that lady on the filmset under American law or is it considered an industrial accident?

Doesnt seem like he's in trouble just yet. How do you kill someone with a prop gun that fires blanks?

Edit: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prop-gun-using-blanks-still-052227936.html

"As for the question of criminal responsibility, that’s for law enforcement to investigate. But it must be noted that in the vast majority of cases, the person who pulled the trigger wasn’t remotely at fault. They were handed a prop and assured it would function normally — and it didn’t."

Guns dont kill people, rappers do.

[JuliusHMarx]

More confused drivel from a left-wing 'comedian'

Apologies, I though she was a comedian. What's her actual profession?

[Pal Joey]

More confused drivel from a left-wing 'comedian'

Apologies, I though she was a comedian. What's her actual profession?

Who knows?

She's not a particularly funny thought when trying to explain "Why do we laugh?".

[JuliusHMarx]

I think Duty was using the quotes in much the same was as we would say super_realist is a 'valuable poster'.

Oddly Maureen Lipman called for Jeremy Corbyn to resign over anti-Semitism but presumably doesn't object to anti-Semitism in comedy because "Something has to be forbidden to make you laugh."

[Pal Joey]

I think Duty was using the quotes in much the same was as we would say super_realist is a 'valuable poster'.

Oddly Maureen Lipman called for Jeremy Corbyn to resign over anti-Semitism but presumably doesn't object to anti-Semitism in comedy because "Something has to be forbidden to make you laugh."

I was watching the movie "Django" the other night There's a scene where he is staying in a safe house across the lake from the Swiss border. Reinhardt was of Romani-French origin but the German occupation forces kind of liked his guitar work. It's not hard to see why!

However, one senior officer drew the line at such things as "American blues" and "guitar solos which lasted more than 5 bars" or something... which I thought was funny in that it would be very hard to police such a thing during a live performance. However, they did pick him up on it, though, in the final concert near the above safe house. (You're kidding me?!)

However, the scene which I sort of chuckled at (a test of humour I suppose) is where the Nazis requisitioned the lovely house where Django and his family were staying beside the lake. He is told to get his things together and get out. As they walk past of group of soldiers slouching around a vehicle just outside, one of the soldiers says, looking at their small clutch of suitcases and boxes: (rough translation) "Did you forget anything?"

Whilst the backdrop of the scene and the reality of the situation of that time is truly frightening, I felt a little self-conscious when I sort of laughed.

Is that humour or is it simply bad taste laughing at a someone's awkward predicament?

I adore Django's music, so obviously I wouldn't have wanted to see him go through that humiliating experience.

[Duty281]

I think Duty was using the quotes in much the same was as we would say super_realist is a 'valuable poster'.

Oddly Maureen Lipman called for Jeremy Corbyn to resign over anti-Semitism but presumably doesn't object to anti-Semitism in comedy because "Something has to be forbidden to make you laugh."

There is a difference between viewpoints and jokes. Many people don't seem to grasp this. This was particularly noticeable during the Ollie Robinson event. Viewpoints are sincerely held; jokes are not. This misunderstanding is at the forefront of 'cancel culture', which does exist.

I also think Super_Realist is a valuable poster. Diversity of opinion is a good thing.

[beninho]

The Ollie Robinson event, that wasn't cancel culture? He posted questionable tweets, he was investigated, he carried on playing, and is playing. He hasn't been cancelled in any way.

It's not cancel culture to look at things someone has done in the past.

And I still don't believe cancel culture is a thing.

[beninho]

I do think the people who shout cancel culture are like the ones who used to say, its political correctness gone mad or say things about health and safety.

[beninho]

What the frick is this ladbaby nonsense, just realised he has loads of Xmas no one songs about sausage rolls. Can we cancel that nonsense?

[Soul Requiem]

Digging up tweets from years ago is very much an example of cancel culture as was the over the top reaction. It is a thing.

[dynamark]

Ben I know its rubbish but all the money goes to Trussel trust so I would imagine thats why people fall for it,Ease your conscience through charity.
On the same subject some Tv channe;s now nothing but charity ads-donkeys,children in india,water,trees,guide dogs,lifeboats.food banks,sally army.You wonder now much donated gets to the issue at hand

[I'm never wrong]

What the frick is this ladbaby nonsense, just realised he has loads of Xmas no one songs about sausage rolls. Can we cancel that nonsense?

Previously, they got there without much "pushing". This time they have gone to town by roping in Elton John and Ed Sheeran. They are really pushing hard on their social media channels and the TV.
But it's for charity.......

[beninho]

Digging up tweets from years ago is very much an example of cancel culture as was the over the top reaction. It is a thing.

There wasn't an over the top reaction, they looked into it, realised that he had grown up, he plays in the Ashes. I'm sure if any person in any job was found to have posted offensive things on a public forum the employers would have a look. People get sacked for posting racist stuff on twitter or Facebook. It's not a thing.

When newspapers used to break stories about celebs banging hookers, or taking drugs, and them losing their jobs, was that also cancel culture?

It's just a made up term for something that has been around for yours. It's just consequences of actions.

[beninho]

Ben  I know its rubbish but all the money goes to Trussel trust so I would imagine thats why people fall for it,Ease your conscience through charity.
On the same subject some Tv channe;s now nothing but charity ads-donkeys,children in india,water,trees,guide dogs,lifeboats.food banks,sally army.You wonder now much donated gets to the issue at hand

If people want to donate to charity, they should do it themselves, and make sure all the money goes to the food banks. Rather then buy the god awful song.

[beninho]

Did cancel culture bring down Weinstein and R Kelly?

[Duty281]

The Ollie Robinson event,  that wasn't cancel culture? He posted questionable tweets,  he was investigated, he carried on playing, and is playing. He hasn't been cancelled in any way.

It's not cancel culture to look at things someone has done in the past.

And I still don't believe cancel culture is a thing.  

Well it is a thing, you can deny it all you want but it exists just the same as evolution or DVD players. Here's Wikipedia 's definition:

Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person. Those subject to this ostracism are said to have been "cancelled".

This is what happened to Ollie Robinson. He was ostracised from his profession for several games i.e. cancelled,  while many of his teammates were not subject to the same jurisdiction, because they deleted their old tweets when the news about Robinson was breaking.

And how can you say what cancel culture is or isn't when you don't believe in it?

[Soul Requiem]

Digging up tweets from years ago is very much an example of cancel culture as was the over the top reaction. It is a thing.

There wasn't an over the top reaction, they looked into it, realised that he had grown up, he plays in the Ashes. I'm sure if any person in any job was found to have posted offensive things on a public forum the employers would have a look. People get sacked for posting racist stuff on twitter or Facebook.  It's not a thing.

When newspapers used to break stories about celebs banging hookers, or taking drugs, and them losing their jobs, was that also cancel culture?

It's just a made up term for something that has been around for yours. It's just consequences of actions.

Getting banned for however many matches it was because some sad little sap dug up tweets from years ago is a blatant example of cancel culture. Little surprise you're defending rubbish like that.

[beninho]

He missed 1 test match, and 2 club t20s. Hardley cancelled in any way.

Andre Gray had a 4 match ban and 25k fine, for saying Burn, Die, make me sick when talking about Gays. Seems pretty fair, I'm fact let off lightly.

There should always be consequences for actions.

[beninho]

The Ollie Robinson event,  that wasn't cancel culture? He posted questionable tweets,  he was investigated, he carried on playing, and is playing. He hasn't been cancelled in any way.

It's not cancel culture to look at things someone has done in the past.

And I still don't believe cancel culture is a thing.  

Well it is a thing, you can deny it all you want but it exists just the same as evolution or DVD players. Here's Wikipedia 's definition:

Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person. Those subject to this ostracism are said to have been "cancelled".

This is what happened to Ollie Robinson. He was ostracised from his profession for several games i.e. cancelled,  while many of his teammates were not subject to the same jurisdiction, because they deleted their old tweets when the news about Robinson was breaking.

And how can you say what cancel culture is or isn't when you don't believe in it?

3 games, 2 of which he wasn't going to play in anyway. He was not cancelled. He was suspended because he acted like a bit of a dick when he was younger.

Can you cone up with someone cancelled please.

[Soul Requiem]

Eight match ban actually.

[Duty281]

David Starkey.

But you don't seem to doubt the existence of cancel culture, you appear to support it and just think it should be called by another name.

[beninho]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

[beninho]

David Starkey.

But you don't seem to doubt the existence of cancel culture,  you appear to support it and just think it should be called by another name.

I think consequences have actions. But, that's been the way for decades. I think the railing against so called cancel culture is just weird. If think if someone posts homophobia online it should be punished.

[Soul Requiem]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

You consider it minor, I consider it a gross over reaction. It was a pathetic thing to have done, deciding to attempt to derail someone's career for tweets from years ago.

[beninho]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

You consider it minor, I consider it a gross over reaction. It was a pathetic thing to have done, deciding to attempt to derail someone's career for tweets from years ago.

So, you think that people can say what they want online, or in a public forum, and it should never be investigated? Do you think Andre Grays homophobic tweets were fine?

[Galted]

The Ollie Robinson event,  that wasn't cancel culture? He posted questionable tweets,  he was investigated, he carried on playing, and is playing. He hasn't been cancelled in any way.

It's not cancel culture to look at things someone has done in the past.

And I still don't believe cancel culture is a thing.  

Well it is a thing, you can deny it all you want but it exists just the same as evolution or DVD players. Here's Wikipedia 's definition:

Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person. Those subject to this ostracism are said to have been "cancelled".

This is what happened to Ollie Robinson. He was ostracised from his profession for several games i.e. cancelled,  while many of his teammates were not subject to the same jurisdiction, because they deleted their old tweets when the news about Robinson was breaking.

And how can you say what cancel culture is or isn't when you don't believe in it?

3 games, 2 of which he wasn't going to play in anyway. He was not cancelled. He was suspended because he acted like a bit of a dick when he was younger.  

Can you cone up with someone cancelled please.  

Cancel Culture isn't as much about people actually being cancelled as about attempts to drown out the voices of those with whom you disagree, rather than arguing against whatever opinion it is you disagree with (in my view, anyway).

I mentioned JK Rowling previously, and she’s a prime example of this.  The reaction to her, perfectly valid, concerns about women’s rights regarding single-sex spaces has been a frenzy of threats and insults – the content of which makes it quite obvious that many of the people attacking her have no idea what it was she said but have leapt onto the bandwagon (she’s been accused, amongst other things, of seeking to eradicate transpeople which is patent nonsense).

On the other end of the scale, Owen Jones, who styles himself as a socialist journalist, very rarely engages in any debate if his opinions (which are often little more than one line character assassinations) are disagreed with.  From my experience on Twitter, his reaction is to block the dissenter after offering an insult as a riposte.
This blocking of opinion is a good example of cancel culture – silencing other voices until you’re left in your safe echo chamber where everyone agrees with you.

[beninho]

The mail online, ran a headline about British towns being no go areas for white people, and about people being attacked for being g white.

The defence was that no reasonable person would have taken the impression from the headline that Brittish towns were inaccessible to white people.

Glad the complaint was upheld.

[Soul Requiem]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

You consider it minor, I consider it a gross over reaction. It was a pathetic thing to have done, deciding to attempt to derail someone's career for tweets from years ago.

So, you think that people can say what they want online, or in a public forum, and it should never be investigated? Do you think Andre Grays homophobic tweets were fine?

Not tweets from 9/10 years ago no, more important things to worry about than a teenager posting a misguided joke.

[JuliusHMarx]

Robinson was postponed, more than cancelled. Still a bit harsh, although if you're in the public eye that's the price that comes with it.

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

[beninho]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

You consider it minor, I consider it a gross over reaction. It was a pathetic thing to have done, deciding to attempt to derail someone's career for tweets from years ago.

So, you think that people can say what they want online, or in a public forum, and it should never be investigated? Do you think Andre Grays homophobic tweets were fine?

Not tweets from 9/10 years ago no, more important things to worry about than a teenager posting a misguided joke.

Andre Gray was 21/22 his tweets were maybe 3 years before he was punished by the he made homophobic comments. Do you think he was wrong to be punished? And is included in this cancel culture problem? Where is your line that racist or homophobic comments should be ignored?

Not sure if you manage anyone, but if soneone you managed flagged up racist or homophobic comments from another employee, would ignore them?

[dynamark]

You have to take responsibility for what you do say and write but we all learn hopefully as we get older and some of this stuff is from years ago so surely we can accept people have moved on .I think all posters on here have a spot of education and common sense but remember there are plenty of nutters and complete numpties(thats being polite)out there

[Duty281]

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

Yes, absolutely. Nothing should be off-limits for comedy. If you don't like it, don't watch or listen to it. It's not our place, or anyone's place for that matter, to police what is and isn't comedy.

[JuliusHMarx]

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

Yes, absolutely. Nothing should be off-limits for comedy. If you don't like it, don't watch or listen to it. It's not our place, or anyone's place for that matter, to police what is and isn't comedy.

Why just comedy.? Why not racist drama or lyrics? What makes comedy different from the other arts?

[Duty281]

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

Yes, absolutely. Nothing should be off-limits for comedy. If you don't like it, don't watch or listen to it. It's not our place, or anyone's place for that matter, to police what is and isn't comedy.

Why just comedy.? Why not racist drama or lyrics? What makes comedy different from the other arts?

I didn't say just comedy, that was the only thing you asked about. Yes, racist drama would be fine, I think. Not entirely sure what you mean by it - but if you mean having racist characters and/or racial storylines into pieces of drama, then that's fine and has already been done numerous times. Racist lyrics the same and already very well-covered.

[beninho]

There was that guy who made a racist joke, Andrew Lawrence, it killed his career. But, im sort of in agreement, I think people shoukd joke about anything, as long as ut doesn't cross over into hate speech. But, I'd guess racist comedians will have a very small audience

[JuliusHMarx]

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

Yes, absolutely. Nothing should be off-limits for comedy. If you don't like it, don't watch or listen to it. It's not our place, or anyone's place for that matter, to police what is and isn't comedy.

Why just comedy.? Why not racist drama or lyrics? What makes comedy different from the other arts?

I didn't say just comedy, that was the only thing you asked about. Yes, racist drama would be fine, I think. Not entirely sure what you mean by it - but if you mean having racist characters and/or racial storylines into pieces of drama, then that's fine and has already been done numerous times. Racist lyrics the same and already very well-covered.

I'm talking about drama, or comedy or lyrics, that promote racism or encourage racism.

[McLaren]

some Tv channe;s now nothing but charity ads-donkeys,children in india,water,trees,guide dogs,lifeboats.food banks,sally army.You wonder now much donated gets to the issue at hand

Are you still watching actual TV?

[McLaren]

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

Yes, absolutely. Nothing should be off-limits for comedy. If you don't like it, don't watch or listen to it. It's not our place, or anyone's place for that matter, to police what is and isn't comedy.

Why just comedy.? Why not racist drama or lyrics? What makes comedy different from the other arts?

Duty, but isn't this where the cancel culture argument sort of breaks down. I agree that people should pretty much be able to joke about whatever they want but they cannot expect all platforms and spaces to host them. Often those that are so called "cancelled" have just been asked to keep their particular opinions out of a certain space. If someone can't find somewhere to platform their racist material then it isn't anyone else's problem.


And to whoever mentioned the JK Rowling thing, has she been cancelled or have warner brothers just decided that they will make more money from its core audience if her presence is minimized? I doubt she is missing from recent potter media because some warner brothers executive took a moral stance on trans issues.

[McLaren]

BREAKING CANCEL NEWS https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59780489


Hopes and prayers for this poor guy about to be cancelled.

[Duty281]

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

Yes, absolutely. Nothing should be off-limits for comedy. If you don't like it, don't watch or listen to it. It's not our place, or anyone's place for that matter, to police what is and isn't comedy.

Why just comedy.? Why not racist drama or lyrics? What makes comedy different from the other arts?

I didn't say just comedy, that was the only thing you asked about. Yes, racist drama would be fine, I think. Not entirely sure what you mean by it - but if you mean having racist characters and/or racial storylines into pieces of drama, then that's fine and has already been done numerous times. Racist lyrics the same and already very well-covered.

I'm talking about drama, or comedy or lyrics, that promote racism or encourage racism.

In both promoting and encouraging racism you're getting out of the fields of drama, comedy and music and into political lecturing.

And it depends how you interpret the meaning of 'promote racism' or 'encourage racism'. For instance, I've often heard criticism of the Grand Theft Auto games that it promotes and encourages all sorts of immoral behaviour, including violence, but the actual evidence for this seems to be scant.

Along the same lines you may argue that a TV sitcom like Love Thy Neighbour promotes and encourages racism through copy-cat behaviour, even though the core theme of the programme was to take the p!ss out of racial attitudes at a time when such attitudes were sadly all too common. I suppose it depends on how intelligent you believe the audience to be, as some people can easily mistake one message for another, particularly when it is not clear.

Along those same lines I think I would be OK with drama, comedy or music that promoted or encouraged racism because I would believe in the intelligence of the majority to reject it and, as others have alluded to, I think that such performative work would struggle to find a sizable audience.

[beninho]

A great brexit benefit bring back the pint of Champagne. Big Sam will be doing somersaults somewhere.

[JuliusHMarx]

Duty, your post from last night indicates that you think racist comedy is acceptable - is that correct?

Yes, absolutely. Nothing should be off-limits for comedy. If you don't like it, don't watch or listen to it. It's not our place, or anyone's place for that matter, to police what is and isn't comedy.

Why just comedy.? Why not racist drama or lyrics? What makes comedy different from the other arts?

I didn't say just comedy, that was the only thing you asked about. Yes, racist drama would be fine, I think. Not entirely sure what you mean by it - but if you mean having racist characters and/or racial storylines into pieces of drama, then that's fine and has already been done numerous times. Racist lyrics the same and already very well-covered.

I'm talking about drama, or comedy or lyrics, that promote racism or encourage racism.

In both promoting and encouraging racism you're getting out of the fields of drama, comedy and music and into political lecturing.

And it depends how you interpret the meaning of 'promote racism' or 'encourage racism'. For instance, I've often heard criticism of the Grand Theft Auto games that it promotes and encourages all sorts of immoral behaviour, including violence, but the actual evidence for this seems to be scant.

Along the same lines you may argue that a TV sitcom like Love Thy Neighbour promotes and encourages racism through copy-cat behaviour, even though the core theme of the programme was to take the p!ss out of racial attitudes at a time when such attitudes were sadly all too common. I suppose it depends on how intelligent you believe the audience to be, as some people can easily mistake one message for another, particularly when it is not clear.

Along those same lines I think I would be OK with drama, comedy or music that promoted or encouraged racism because I would believe in the intelligence of the majority to reject it and, as others have alluded to, I think that such performative work would struggle to find a sizable audience.

Some venues would refuse to book such acts. Some people would encourage local venues not to book such acts. Some other people would then accuse them of being woke warriors engaging in cancel culture, when in fact they are simply protesting against racism.

[Soul Requiem]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

You consider it minor, I consider it a gross over reaction. It was a pathetic thing to have done, deciding to attempt to derail someone's career for tweets from years ago.

So, you think that people can say what they want online, or in a public forum, and it should never be investigated? Do you think Andre Grays homophobic tweets were fine?

Not tweets from 9/10 years ago no, more important things to worry about than a teenager posting a misguided joke.

Andre Gray was 21/22 his tweets were maybe 3 years before he was punished by the he made homophobic comments. Do you think he was wrong to be punished? And is included in this cancel culture problem? Where is your line that racist or homophobic comments should be ignored?

Not sure if you manage anyone, but if soneone you managed flagged up racist or homophobic comments from another employee, would ignore them?

If it was during their time of employment then yes but not from before.

[beninho]

Is it woke to cancel a booking if someone has subsequently said something racist, homophobic ?

Is it cancel culture to withdraw a job offer to someone accused of sexual misconduct?

[beninho]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

You consider it minor, I consider it a gross over reaction. It was a pathetic thing to have done, deciding to attempt to derail someone's career for tweets from years ago.

So, you think that people can say what they want online, or in a public forum, and it should never be investigated? Do you think Andre Grays homophobic tweets were fine?

Not tweets from 9/10 years ago no, more important things to worry about than a teenager posting a misguided joke.

Andre Gray was 21/22 his tweets were maybe 3 years before he was punished by the he made homophobic comments. Do you think he was wrong to be punished? And is included in this cancel culture problem? Where is your line that racist or homophobic comments should be ignored?

Not sure if you manage anyone, but if soneone you managed flagged up racist or homophobic comments from another employee, would ignore them?

If it was during their time of employment then yes but not from before.

What about 1 month before someone started, they said similar to Andre Gray, about gays making him sick. You wouldn't have an issue if that was flagged after a few days of employment?

Again trying to find the line, when homophobia or racism doesn't bother you. And do you think Andre Gray was wrongly punished for his comments?

[JuliusHMarx]

Is it woke to cancel a booking if someone has subsequently said something racist, homophobic ?

I think we are seeing many people describe that as woke.

Ironically many anti-cancel culture people are trying very hard to cancel wokeness.

[beninho]

Is it woke to cancel a booking if someone has subsequently said something racist, homophobic ?

I think we are seeing many people describe that as woke.

Ironically many anti-cancel culture people are trying very hard to cancel wokeness.

I saw sonething about how the republicans had an event about uncalled America or something, then cancelled a speaker fir his anti semitic views.

[beninho]

Anyway, while we have our usual fun back and forth bantz. I also want to wish you a very merry winterfest Christmas. Drink, eat and be merry.

[beninho]

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1474386838941052931?t=262ROl4xd9k_r-pibEWYtQ&s=19

Quite likevthis one, someone trying to use cancel culture to publicise their boom. But being called out.

[Soul Requiem]

Eight match ban actually.

5 suspended. He missed 1 game he could have played in. Its a very minor cancellation. Considering he's playing I'm the Ashes.

You consider it minor, I consider it a gross over reaction. It was a pathetic thing to have done, deciding to attempt to derail someone's career for tweets from years ago.

So, you think that people can say what they want online, or in a public forum, and it should never be investigated? Do you think Andre Grays homophobic tweets were fine?

Not tweets from 9/10 years ago no, more important things to worry about than a teenager posting a misguided joke.

Andre Gray was 21/22 his tweets were maybe 3 years before he was punished by the he made homophobic comments. Do you think he was wrong to be punished? And is included in this cancel culture problem? Where is your line that racist or homophobic comments should be ignored?

Not sure if you manage anyone, but if soneone you managed flagged up racist or homophobic comments from another employee, would ignore them?

If it was during their time of employment then yes but not from before.

What about 1 month before someone started, they said similar to Andre Gray, about gays making him sick. You wouldn't have an issue if that was flagged after a few days of employment?

Again trying to find the line, when homophobia or racism doesn't bother you.  And do you think Andre Gray was wrongly punished for his comments?

Whether I agree with his comments or not is irrelevant, comments made before his employment are nothing to do with me.

[incontinentia]

BREAKING CANCEL NEWS https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59780489


Hopes and prayers for this poor guy about to be cancelled.

You're being sarcastic, but James Franco has been in the news again recently. His crime? Having consensual sex with some of his acting school students.

Let's wait for Chris Noth to go through due process before rushing to judgement.

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