Rugby Union Legends Game - Draft

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Rounds One and Eleven (Loosehead Prop and Winger)
1.Banafan-aka-hon - Os Du Randt/Jonah Lomu
2.GloucesterBear - Jason Leonard/David Campese
3.Pullthestrings - Tom Smith/Jason Robinson
4.Bathite - Tony Woodcock/John Kirwan
5.Inthefastlane - Bill Young/Bryan Habana
6.Driver - Trevor Woodman/Shane Williams
7.Steven_Sharks - Craig Dowd/Jeff Wilson
8.Prop_Lyd - Olo Brown/Ieuan Evans
9.LDCPete - Christian Califano/Joe Roff
10.Lukelovesluka - Graham Rowntree/Rory Underwood

Rounds Two and Twelve (Hooker and Centre)
1.GloucesterBear - Keith Wood/Tana Umaga
2.Pullthestrings - Sean Fitzpatrick/Philippe Sella
3.Bathite - Raphael Ibanez/Tim Horan
4.Inthefastlane - Brian Moore/Danie Gerber
5.Driver - Steve Thompson/Will Greenwood
6.Steven_Sharks - Phil Kearns/Scott Gibbs
7.Shark Bite Cider - Uli Schmidt/Frank Bunce
8.LDCPete - Anton Olivier/Mike "Frail" Gibson
9.Lukelovesluka - John Smit/Jeremy Guscott
10.Banafan-aka-hon - Keven Mealamu/Stirling Mortlock

Rounds Three and Thirteen (Tighthead Prop and Centre)
1.Pullthestrings - Carl Hayman/Brian O'Driscoll
2.Bathite - Phil Vickery/Jason Little
3.Inthefastlane - Al Baxter/Denis Charvet
4.Driver - Paul Wallace/Will Carling
5.Steven_Sharks - Graham Price/Yannick Jauzion
6.Prop_Lyd - Jeff Probyn/Phil de Glanville
7.LDCPete - Fran Cotton/Ray Gravell
8.Lukelovesluka - John Hayes/Elton Flatley
9.Banafan-aka-hon - Pascal Ondarts/Mike Catt
10.Cookie Monster 15 - Richard Loe/Aaron Mauger

Rounds Four and Fourteen (Lock and Winger)
1.Bathite - Martin Johnson/Doug Howlett
2.Inthefastlane - John Eales/Rupeni Caucau
3.Driver - Bakkies Botha/Christophe Dominici
4.Steven_Sharks - David Giffin/Philippe Saint-Andre
5.Prop_Lyd - Bill Beaumont/Tony Underwood
6.LDCPete - Robin Brooke/James Small
7. Lukelovesluka - Simon Shaw/Joe Rokocoko
8.Banafan-aka-hon - Brad Thorn/Va'aiga Tuigamala
9.GloucesterBear - Olivier Merle/Lote Tuqiri
10.Pullthestrings - Malcolm O'Kelly/Cedric Heymans

Rounds Five and Fifteen (Lock and Full Back)
1.Inthefastlane - Fabien Pelous/Serge Blanco
2.Driver - Victor Matfield/Christian Cullen
3.Steven_Sharks - Wade Dooley/Gavin Hastings
4.Prop_Lyd Moss Keane/Matt Burke
5.LDCPete - Ian Jones/J.P.R Williams
6.Lukelovesluka - Danny Grewcock/Percy Montgomery
7.Banafan-aka-hon - Chris Jack/Josh Lewsey
8.GloucesterBear - Olivier Brouzet/Chris Latham
9.Pullthestrings - Paul O'Connell/Gareth Thomas
10.Bathite - Nathan Sharpe/Mils Muliaina

Rounds Six and Sixteen (Blindside and Scrum Half)
1.Driver - Richard Hill/Fourie Du Preez
2.Steven_Sharks - Francois Pienaar/Gary Armstrong
3.Prop_Lyd - Josh Kronfeld/Robert Jones
4.LDCPete - Jean Pierre Rives/Jean-Baptisite Elissalde
5.Lukelovesluka - Martin Corry/Kyran Bracken
6.Banafan-aka-hon - Rocky Elsom/Byron Kelleher
7.GloucesterBear - Reuben Thorne/Graeme Bachop
8.Pullthestrings - Jerry Collins/Pierre Berbizier
9.Bathite - Fergus Slattery/Bryan Redpath
10.Inthefastlane - Graham Mourie/Dimitri Yachvili

Rounds Seven and Seventeen (Openside and Prop)
1.Steven_Sharks - Michael Jones/Gethin Jenkins
2.Prop_Lyd - Richie McCaw/Gareth Chilcott
3.LDCPete - Peter Winterbottom/David Sole
4.Lukelovesluka - Neil Back/Rodrigo Roncero
5.Banafan-aka-hon - George Smith/Greg Somerville
6.GloucesterBear - David Wilson/Pieter De Villiers
7.Pullthestrings - Martyn Williams/Dai Young
8.Bathite - Serge Betsen/Sylvain Marconnett
9.Inthefastlane - Phil Waugh/Martin Castrogiovanni
10.Driver - Schalk Burger/Adam Jones

Rounds Eight and Eighteen (No8 and Hooker)
1.Prop_Lyd - Zinzan Brooke/Colin Deans
2.LDCPete - Wayne Shelford/Peter Wheeler
3.Lukelovesluka - Scott Quinnell/Richard Cockerill
4.Banafan-aka-hon - Lawrence Dallaglio/Mark Regan
5.Gloucesterbear - Taine Randell/Jeremy Paul
6.Pullthestrings - Sergio Parisse/Ciaran Fitzgerald
7.Bathite - Dean Richards/Gordon Bulloch
8.Inthefastlane - Morne Du Plessis/Michael Foley
9.Driver - Tim Rodber/Mario Ledesma
10.Steven_Sharks - Gary Teichman/Yannick Bru

Rounds Nine and Nineteen (Scrum Half and Free Choice)
1.LDCPete - Joost VD.Westhuizen/Thomas Castaignede
2.Lukelovesluka - George Gregan/Austin Healy
3.Banafan-aka-hon - Nick Farr-Jones/Carlos Spencer
4.GloucesterBear - Agustin Pichot/Simon Easterby
5.Pullthestrings - Rob Howley/Neil Jenkins
6.Bathite - Justin Marshall/Emile Ntamack
7.Inthefastlane - Matt Dawson/Juan Martin Hernandez
8.Driver - Mike Phillips/Brian Lima
9.Steven_Sharks - Fabian Galthie/Jonathan Davies
10.Prop_Lyd - David Kirk/Derek Quinnell

Rounds Ten and Twenty (Fly Half and Free Choice)
1.Lukelovesluka - Stephen Larkham/Ben Kay
2.Banafan-aka-hon - Jonny Wilkinson/Abdelatif Benazzi
3.GloucesterBear - Grant Fox/Jaque Fourie
4.Pullthestrings - Dan Carter/Lewis Moody
5.Bathite - Michael Lynagh/Chris Paterson
6.Inthefastlane - Naas Botha/Sebastien Chabal
7.Driver - Andrew Mehrtens/Dafydd James
8.Steven_Sharks - Mark Ella/Andy Irvine
9.Prop_Lyd - Hugo Porta/Alan Bateman
10.LDCPete - Joel Stransky/Mike Teague

theres only one man standing in the way of my pick, who still hasn't gone for Tight Head prop yet . . . come on Luke be kind to me

Don't think you can have Dawes Prop. He stopped playing for Wales in 1971

Cotton's first five tests for England...

http://www.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/match/20547.html
http://www.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/match/20549.html
http://www.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/match/20551.html
http://www.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/match/20669.html
http://www.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/match/20672.html


can't be bothered to list the other 33, but definitely a tighthead.

Dawes mate

After retiring as a player, Dawes became coach of the Welsh national side in 1974,
so didn't play into the 80 for club or country

John Dawes not going to count him

John Bevan not happy with him either.

Fran Cotton not really happy with him either, but will let him scrape through by the skin of his teeth.

All these players who just played about one year in the 80's im not happy with, you can pick 80's players but these players are mostly 70's players.

I agree he played both sides with great success. I was hoping he'd be put down as a 1

Phil De Glanville then

GloucesterBear wrote:John Dawes not going to count him

John Bevan not happy with him either.

Fran Cotton not really happy with him either, but will let him scrape through by the skin of his teeth.

All these players who just played about one year in the 80's im not happy with, you can pick 80's players but these players are mostly 70's players.

Man up and foot your foot down then! Morne and Cotton were both on my list, but ruled both out as they weren't in the 80s largely!

bugg er now there are still two choice between me and my 1st choice TightHead!!!!

please please please don't either of you pick him



Frans a great choice Bear? Just us muppets didn't think of looking at him!

Fran played a couple of years into the 80's by all accounts for country so assume he did club longer as well?

Dawes fair enough to disallow, but if they've played into the 80's Bear then they are good by the rules buddy.

It's all a bit of fun in any case. My team are all in it for the craic anyway, they've all got day jobs to go back to when they sober up!

Bear you said they could play in the 80's. You can't change the rules now. People aren't pulling out obscure players they are picking players who were world class in the McCaw and Carter mould.

People like Cotton, Price, Slattery and JPR are widely considered as the best ever players in there position and they played in the 80's. Surely fair game?

So I can't have bevan but gibson is allowed?? Going to have to wait a while for my winger now then if he's not allowed, got things to do at work

I'll admit dawes was a mistake: just scanned about him so missed the coach part!

Bear Bevan was playing into 1982 ?? so why won't you let him have him?

There were 2 John Bevans who played for Wales in the 70's. One who played for Aberavon and retired due to injury and one who played for Cardiff and was a dual code international and played international rugby until 1982. The dual code one was winger in Union and I think this is the one prop means, so I don't see why he wouldn't be allowed.

I'll take the other underwood instead, must be something against me getting welshmen

prop, am I right in what I said above, if so, can't see why you can't have Bevan.

Yes in Rugby League

This isn't Rugby League, so he isn't counted.

Pete: only thing I can see stopping it is that he finished in rl!

prop_lyd wrote:I'll take the other underwood instead, must be something against me getting welshmen

cant be a bad thing, got to keep you team tidy and law abiding . . .

I refer you to your rules Bear...

GloucesterBear wrote:Rugby Union Legends Game Rules

Homepage

1.You can call your team whatever name you want

2.The players you buy must have played Rugby between 1980 to 2010

3.Every team has a budget of £200 million to buy whatever players they want

4.The players will range from £5 million to £20 million a team must have a squad of 25 players to start with, I will then up the squad limit to 32.

5.Foreign Transfers will be available, but you must have to wait 3 hours before your bid is accepted for the certain player, so other members of the game also have a chance to sign that player

6.Match days will be every Tuesday or Wednesday, with predictions opening straight away when everyone hands in there team sheets.

7.Every side has two injuries per month, the injured players will be picked at random and the amount of weeks they will be out for will also be picked at random, that could be 1 week or the full maximum of 4 weeks.

Where does it say he must have played rugby union in the 80's?

Pete - Centre and Winger
Inthefastlane - Hooker
Luke - Scrum-Half

I said this game was Rugby Union when I first made it everyone knows that, or they would be picking Rugby League players also wouldn't we.

John Bevan isn't being counted, his Rugby Union games were 1970's. Just pick again and stop confusing me please.

We have done this well so far.

Pete - all rules are open to interpretation. You can't possibly list every scenario and state whether it is allowed or not.

The rules are a basis - not to be taken literally. I have tried explaining this to Blogs many times. Common sense takes presendence in all circumstances.

Rugby Union Legends Game Rules

There are you blind Pete?

Who is this blogs bloke?

You just posted the rules and the main headline says RUGBY UNION LEGENDS GAME RULES.

IN BIG BLACK WRITING AND IF YOU MISSED THAT YOU NEED GLASSES.

oh dear Pete, just pick again mate.

Blogs - AKA RowleyFox, nguessisrubbish and GloucesterBear.

I think that is harsh to be honest, the game is meant to be fun and disallowing a player on a technicality that he crossed codes in the 80's is a bit poor imo.

It's not like it really has any effect on nayone else, I think prop should be allowed him.

Rule 2 is clear, and Bevan played rugby in the 80's.


Anyway, for my centre I am going for the Wales and Lions classic crash ball centre...

Ray Gravell.

The title states Rugby Union the rules state 1980 to 2010.

That clearly shows Rugby League players won't be accepted, and that players in the 1970's won't be accepted.

Bevan didn't play a single Rugby Union game in the 1980's, so I can't count him Pete rules are rules and it says in the title in big black writing that this is speficially Rugby Union.

Ray Gravell can be counted, but he has died in real life oh I don't know what to do

there are still so many world class props out there it's scary!!!

And on the wing I go for 47 times capped Springbok and the man who completely nulified Jonah Lomu in the 1995 World Cup Final...

James Small.

All these old players who played 1970's rugby and slightly into 80's.

Are 60-70 years of age some of them, and some of them have even died.

Really confusing me of what to do.

Why does it matter if they are dead or alive in real life?

Small, dammit, next on my list!

LDCPete you have destroyed my brain with your old picks today whether to count them or not.

Now you pick my next target for winger.

Kaboooooom, good pick LDCPete very good pick

Luke and inthefastlane all down to you two for the time being.

If your online get your picks in please asap thanks.

he wont nullify lomu on here pall

Bear

Just be grateful that I never went for a 100% 80's team which I was considering as I would have been pushing for the likes of Faulkner and Windsor to go along with Price as the Ponty front row, and would have been using evidence such as this…

http://www.pontypoolrugby.org.uk/build/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91&Itemid=54

To support my claim that they are eligible as 80's players.

(See entry for Oct 1980 a fair way down the page)

Then you would have had some serious headaches about who to allow!

Pete: I would have beaten you to it!! Think I've got another 80's prop lined up

Need to get these tightheads done asap so we can open and finish the replacement props before moving on to the free choice picks.

I am liking the look of my first 15, has a good honest amateur ethos feel to it...

15. JPR Williams
14. James Small
13. Ray Gravell
12. Mike Gibson
11. Joe Roff
10. Joel Stransky
9. Joost van der Westhuizen / Jean-Baptiste Elissalde


1. Christian Califano
2. Anton Oliver / Peter Wheeler
3. Fran Cotton
4. Robin Brooke
5. Ian Jones
6. Jean-Pierre Rives
7. Peter Winterbottom
8. Wayne 'Buck' Shelford (c)

Some seriously hard men in that team, touring with them would have been some craic!

Mine are a bit younger then that it seems, not on purpose, just the older lads i wanted got snapped up! I went for the Aus 90s team and NZ back three as my combinations.

1. Woodcock
2. Ibanez
3. Vickery
4. Johnson (c)
5. Sharpe
6. Slattery
7. Betsen
8. Richards
9. Marshall
10. Lynagh (k)
11. Kirwan
12. Horan
13. Little
14. Howlett
15. Muliaina

you have some decent drinkers in there and apart from JVW who has the charisma and personal skill of a stepped in dog turd (he would be a party pooper) it would be a party tour bus

I can accept players if they played 70's but in the early 80's years but 1980, 1981 is just that little bit unacceptable in my view but it does count.

But clearly can't count John Bevans as he didn't play Rugby Union in the 80's.

15. Matt Burke
14. Underwood
13. Bunce
12. De Glanville
11. Evans
10. Porta
9. Kirk/Jones

1. Brown (can do 3)
2. Schmidt/Deans
3. Probyn
4. Beaumont
5. Keane
6. Kronfeld
7. McCaw
8. Brooke!!

Got my 2 picks for wild cards ready and my other prop too. Love that pack: sheer brute force!

Glosbear - just take a stand, yes or no, no quibbles. Thats what pooly does and it sorts the issue out straight away! Its your game, so you determine who is elligible

That's a pretty tasty team there Bathite, particularly in the backs. The Aus team of the 90's was very strong, as 2 World Cup wins show.

good pack Prop - me I am going for monster hitters as well . . . can't wait to get my Tighthead choice in there

was gutted being so low down the locks listings as had to go for more recent players in the end . . . still good though I think! SO FAR

1st xv
1. Os du Randt
2. Kevin Mealamu
3. A BIG MONSTER AWAITING TO BE CHOSEN!!

4. Chris Jack
5. Brad Thorn

6. George Smith
7. Rocky Elsom
8. Lawrence Dallaglio

9. Nick Farr-Jones
10. Sir Johnny Wilkinson

11. Jonah Lomu
12. TBC (tough one at the bottom of the list)
13. Stirling Mortlock
14. ANOTHER MONSTER TO GO HERE
15. Josh Lewsey

LDCPete wrote:That's a pretty tasty team there Bathite, particularly in the backs. The Aus team of the 90's was very strong, as 2 World Cup wins show.

Cheers dude! Yeah its got a pretty 90s theme to it, looking at it! Went for many of my personal favourite players, heart over head sometimes, with woodcock and vickery mainly. Wanted Leota as back up hook as well, but that would be a step too far!

Quite surprised how the back row turned out, thought i would struggle that far down the rankings

serious front and back rows there prop, going to be some real tear ups and clashes of styles I can see in this league.

I know what 2 wildcards I want, just need to decide on replacement prop.

Hon: is your 14 Banahan??!!