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Post by Liam_Main Sat 17 Sep 2011, 9:59 am

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After Englands impressive one-day series against India their next challenge is against India in India. A lot of their bid dogs will be back so this will prove to be a tough series for them. What I ask is what would you be your one-day side against India? Here's mine-

1) Alistair Cook (C)
2) Craig Kieswetter (W-K)
3) Kevin Pietersen
4) Jonathan Trott
5) Ravi Bopara
6) Ben Stokes
7) Jonny Bairstow
8) Tim Bresnan
9) Graeme Swann
10) Steve Finn
11) James Anderson

Anderson- 10 overs
Bresnan- 10 overs
Finn- 10 overs
Swann- 10 overs
Stokes- 6 overs
KP- 2 overs
Bopara- 2 overs
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Post by Guest Thu 22 Sep 2011, 9:07 am

real shame that eoin morgan isnt fit for the odi series Sad

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Post by We Are Number 1!!! Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:06 pm

India will win the series 5-0 just like they did in 2008. They haven't lost a home ODI series in close to 5 years, England's bowlers rely on greentops, none of those are on offer in India.

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:06 pm

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:India will win the series 5-0 just like they did in 2008. They haven't lost a home ODI series in close to 5 years, England's bowlers rely on greentops, none of those are on offer in India.

laughing stop your embarassing yourself

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Post by We Are Number 1!!! Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:13 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:
We Are Number 1!!! wrote:India will win the series 5-0 just like they did in 2008. They haven't lost a home ODI series in close to 5 years, England's bowlers rely on greentops, none of those are on offer in India.

laughing stop your embarassing yourself
England haven't beaten India in an ODI in India since 2006, I think the game was in Jamshedpur. England only competitive on doctored green tops.

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:14 pm

no we are a much different and better side these days.

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Post by We Are Number 1!!! Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:16 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:no we are a much different and better side these days.
Remind me what happened in the World Cup? Oh yes England got hammered by Sri Lanka.

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:17 pm

so what, we are a different side, we look a better outift and more organised.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:18 pm

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:
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We Are Number 1!!! wrote:India will win the series 5-0 just like they did in 2008. They haven't lost a home ODI series in close to 5 years, England's bowlers rely on greentops, none of those are on offer in India.

laughing stop your embarassing yourself
England haven't beaten India in an ODI in India since 2006, I think the game was in Jamshedpur. England only competitive on doctored green tops.

England are slowly improving as a one-day side India might win but it won't be the whitewash your thinking of.
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Post by We Are Number 1!!! Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:23 pm

Liam_Main wrote:
We Are Number 1!!! wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:
We Are Number 1!!! wrote:India will win the series 5-0 just like they did in 2008. They haven't lost a home ODI series in close to 5 years, England's bowlers rely on greentops, none of those are on offer in India.

laughing stop your embarassing yourself
England haven't beaten India in an ODI in India since 2006, I think the game was in Jamshedpur. England only competitive on doctored green tops.

England are slowly improving as a one-day side India might win but it won't be the whitewash your thinking of.
England improving? On what evidence? Beating an under strength World Champion in India? Don't make me laugh.

England are dreadful vs spin and India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka will expose England this winter.

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Sep 2011, 9:24 pm

some comments that are made here really crack me up, laughing

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Post by ShankyCricket Sat 24 Sep 2011, 8:15 am

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:
We Are Number 1!!! wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:
We Are Number 1!!! wrote:India will win the series 5-0 just like they did in 2008. They haven't lost a home ODI series in close to 5 years, England's bowlers rely on greentops, none of those are on offer in India.

laughing stop your embarassing yourself
England haven't beaten India in an ODI in India since 2006, I think the game was in Jamshedpur. England only competitive on doctored green tops.

England are slowly improving as a one-day side India might win but it won't be the whitewash your thinking of.
England improving? On what evidence? Beating an under strength World Champion in India? Don't make me laugh.

England are dreadful vs spin and India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka will expose England this winter.

Stop this Sonic.How low would you stoop?You have already pretended to be an Indian,West Indian,Aussie fan.And now you are pretending to be English fan 🤦 just to make your point valid.Do you think we are fools?
What exactly is the reason behind your hatred for England?

And I know who you were on 606.HippoCrite werent you?And RedIndian on JA606.


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Post by Guest Sat 24 Sep 2011, 9:48 am

i find it staggering how many times he has tried to have new accounts and everytime we figure him out lol.

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Post by Guest Sat 24 Sep 2011, 12:44 pm

I won't ask again, keep this thread on topic.

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Post by Guest Sat 24 Sep 2011, 12:49 pm

i wanted to see chris woakes in the squad, im a huge fan of his.

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Post by Liam_Main Sat 24 Sep 2011, 1:06 pm

I like Woakes as a test match bowler. His lack of variety and line and length would cost him in one-dayers though.
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Post by ShankyCricket Sat 24 Sep 2011, 1:07 pm

Liam_Main wrote:I like Woakes as a test match bowler. His lack of variety and line and length would cost him in one-dayers though.
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Post by Guest Sat 24 Sep 2011, 1:59 pm

to be fair, he has to be given a go, you never know he might suprise us..

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Post by Liam_Main Sat 24 Sep 2011, 2:07 pm

I would rather have Dernbach in than Woakes and that's saying something.
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Post by Guest Sat 24 Sep 2011, 4:36 pm

gonna be an intresting tour, for whoever's picked.

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Post by We Are Number 1!!! Sun 25 Sep 2011, 5:30 am

Without Broad, who's not that good, England's ODI attack has no x factor.

Bresnan, Dernbach and Anderson will be cannon fodder in Asia.

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Post by ShankyCricket Sun 25 Sep 2011, 8:38 am

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:Without Broad, who's not that good, England's ODI attack has no x factor.

Bresnan, Dernbach and Anderson will be cannon fodder in Asia.

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Post by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:34 am

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:Without Broad, who's not that good, England's ODI attack has no x factor.

Bresnan, Dernbach and Anderson will be cannon fodder in Asia.

do you think before you comment?

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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:36 am

Don't start this again lads.
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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:38 am

Back to the topic in hand, I think Anderson may struggle the most in India. This series will really prove if he can play on dry pitches. Bresnan and Dernbach/Finn's variety and pace on the other hand could cause problems.
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Post by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:39 am

i feel that we will win in india to be honest.

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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:40 am

I thought India would won the test series and look what happened...
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Post by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

i think the likes of bairstow, buttler, briggs/borthwick should have been given a go in india, i think it would be good for them to get the experience.

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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:45 am

I doubt England would of sent out both of Bairstow and Buttler. But after his innings in the last match he deserves to stake a claim.
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Post by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:18 pm

they should get a go out there, especially buttler he is averagin around 60 in domestic one day cricket, and everytime he has played for england he hasnt got a bat lol.

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Post by Gregers Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:27 pm

I think we should go with:

1) Hales
2) Cook (c)
3) Kieswetter (wk)
4) Bairstow
5) Bopara
6) Stokes
7) Buttler
8) Bresnan
9) Swann
10) Finn
11) Dernbach

Go with youth

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Post by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:28 pm

buttler has to play, if i was selector he would be in that squad.

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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:29 pm

England will play Anderson and Trott, Gregers.
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Post by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:31 pm

going to be a very intresting series

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Post by Gregers Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:32 pm

Liam_Main wrote:England will play Anderson and Trott, Gregers.

I know but I wouldn't if it was up to me

Anderson should be rested and Trott could fit into the side instead of Kieswetter/Hales

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Post by JDizzle Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:33 pm

Liam_Main wrote:England will play Anderson and Trott, Gregers.

They'll play Trott, but I think they will leave Anderson out. They have doen it before, in the World T20 so they are not scared of dropping him.

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Post by Gregers Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:34 pm

I think that seeing what Finn and Dernbach can do would be more beneficial than playing Anderson

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Post by ShankyCricket Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:36 pm

I think India will win if Sehwag is fit.He will be dangerous on those pitches.

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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:36 pm

Yeah because Andersons a poor T20 bowler, he's barely been picked since. Anderson's a far better bowler in one-dayers than T20's
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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:36 pm

Finn over Anderson I agree. Not Dernbach though.
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Post by Gregers Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:41 pm

Liam_Main wrote:Finn over Anderson I agree. Not Dernbach though.

Dernbach is quality in t20s tho. In 50 over probably Finn over Dernbach.

English fast bowlers in order for ODI's IMO (When all fit)

1) Bresnan
2) Broad
3) Finn
4) Dernbach
5) Woakes
6) Anderson
7) James Harris

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Post by JDizzle Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:43 pm

I dunno, if it is just for bowling I would have Anderson above Woakes but Woakes offers more with the bat. And no Tremlett in that list Gregers?

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Post by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:43 pm

lol what happened to ed joyce? he got hundred agasint aussies and then get dropped

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Post by ShankyCricket Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:43 pm

Maybe it would be worth to exctend KP's rest.I dont see what he would gain by scoring a few cheap runs against an ordinary attack on flat pitches.Maybe better for hales to score those runs and build confidence.

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Post by Liam_Main Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:44 pm

Gregers wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:Finn over Anderson I agree. Not Dernbach though.

Dernbach is quality in t20s tho. In 50 over probably Finn over Dernbach.

English fast bowlers in order for ODI's IMO (When all fit)

1) Bresnan
2) Broad
3) Finn
4) Dernbach
5) Woakes
6) Anderson
7) James Harris

I would have-

1) Bresnan
2) Broad
3) Finn
4) Anderson
5) Dernbach
6) Harris
7) Woakes

I think Harris has more to offer in one-dayers than Woakes does.
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Post by ShankyCricket Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:44 pm

Bresnan is an ordinary ODI bowler tbh

Average of 37 and an economy of 5.3.
Hardly Englands best.


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Post by ShankyCricket Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:45 pm

I would have Meaker over both Harris and Woakes in the shorter formats.

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Post by ShankyCricket Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:46 pm

For me
In ODIs

Broad
Finn
Jimmy
Bres
Meaker
Dernbach
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Woakes

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Post by Gregers Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:47 pm

Woakes offers with the bat tho and Tremlett is a fairly poor limited overs bowler (The surrey contingent will back me up Im sure)

James Harris will be a awesome bowler I think, impressed me tons this year

Meaker above Dernbach, Harris and Woakes? Really?

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Post by JDizzle Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:49 pm

If only the ODI white balls were made by Tiflex, then we could just pick David Masters and be the best side in the world...

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Post by ShankyCricket Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:56 pm

Meaker has got some serious pace and can move the ball both ways.He also has a good bouncer,yorker and a slower ball.

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