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Post by HERSH Tue 04 Oct 2011, 4:15 pm

First topic message reminder :

Last 10 meetings

26 Feb 2011 England 17 - 9 France
20 Mar 2010 France 12 - 10 England
15 Mar 2009 England 34 - 10 France
23 Feb 2008 France 13 - 24 England
13 Oct 2007 France 9 - 14 England -RWC
18 Aug 2007 France 22 - 9 England
11 Aug 2007 England 15 - 21 France
11 Mar 2007 England 26 - 18 France
12 Mar 2006 France 31 - 6 England
13 Feb 2005 England 17 - 18 France

ENGLAND - 5 Wins - FRANCE - 5 Wins


stlowe wrote:England

1 Matt Stevens
2 Steve Thompson
3 Dan Cole
4 Louis Deacon
5 Tom Palmer
6 Tom Croft
7 Lewis Moody
8 Nick Easter
9 Ben Youngs
10 Jonny Wilkinson
11 Mark Cueto
12 Toby Flood
13 Manu Tuilagi
14 Chris Ashton
15 Ben Foden

Replacements

16 Dylan Hartley
17 Alex Corbisiero
18 Courtney Lawes
19 Simon Shaw
20 James Haskell
21 Richard Wigglesworth
22 Matt Banahan



France

1 Jean-Baptiste Poux
2 William Servat
3 Nicolas Mas
4 Pascal Pape
5 Lionel Nallet
6 Thierry Dusautoir
7 Julien Bonnaire
8 Imanol Harinordoquy
9 Dimitri Yachvili
10 Morgan Parra
11 Alexis Palisson
12 Maxime Mermoz
13 Aurélien Rougerie
14 Vincent Clerc
15 Maxime Médard

Replacements

16 Dimitri Szarzewski
17 Fabien Barcella
18 Julien Pierre
19 Louis Picamoles
20 Francois Trinh-Duc
21 David Marty
22 Cédric Heymans


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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu 06 Oct 2011, 5:09 pm

The pigs are flying because England got bored of tossing dwarfs Run

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Post by andy powells minder Thu 06 Oct 2011, 5:10 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:
andy powells minder wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:
englandglory4ever wrote:"It's time to stop the self effacing carry on, it's endearing and all, but a little disingenuous."

If we did stop the self-effing thing we would be labelled arrogant, etc. and anyway we don't want to sound like those over-blown Welshmen do we? If you listen to them they have Bill in their trophy cabinet already. I suspect Ireland will have something to say about that though.

You're actually both right (my gosh, TGG is right, and they're no flying pigs outside my window Shocked). Looking at the draw, England should make the final, and if they don't they'll have under-performed. However, I am now going to be slated by my Celt friends on here as a typical arrogant Englishman, and reminded that Wales and Ireland have superior form (despite Wales actually having lost a match). The truth of it though is that I'm French. Not sure what the English are worried about TBH, we've been utter pants so far, and it's unlikely to improve IMO.

In the words of that 80's classic "the only way is up"
thumbsup

You forgot to add the bit "unless you're coached by a madman called Marc Lièvremont, in which case the only way is even further down"...

non, c'est pas possible thumbsup

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Post by englandglory4ever Thu 06 Oct 2011, 5:41 pm

Ruby I see we are on the same wavelength but about different teams. The North star is said to be rising over Wales but getting blotted out by another wave of welsh flying pigs.

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Post by RubyGuby Thu 06 Oct 2011, 5:43 pm

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Post by Gatts Thu 06 Oct 2011, 6:59 pm

TheGreyGhost wrote:
tomhughesnice wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:"Educated" people. Typical English arrogance.

I was born in New Plymouth.

Thomas Waldrom was born in Upper Hutt. But he's English.

All colonials are essentially English if you think about it

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Fri 07 Oct 2011, 11:48 am

Well said, some people aren't to sharp on their history.
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Post by TheGreyGhost Fri 07 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

Gatts wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:
tomhughesnice wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:"Educated" people. Typical English arrogance.

I was born in New Plymouth.

Thomas Waldrom was born in Upper Hutt. But he's English.
All colonials are essentially English if you think about it

And all Englishmen neanderthals by that line of argument.

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Fri 07 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

So GG you admit that MJ IS English then?...Wink
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Post by TheGreyGhost Fri 07 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm

drumroll

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Fri 07 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

Aaay thank you.
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Post by BATH_BTGOG Fri 07 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

GreyGhost

There was a teacher from Bristol who’s DNA proved he was a descendent from a Ice/Bronze age? skeleton found in a Cheddar Gorge cave.

For those who don't now Cheddar is about 20miles away from Bristol.


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Post by Mike Selig Fri 07 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

England should on present form win comfortably. But then we were all saying that about Aus-Ire a few weeks ago...

France could win if they somehow lift themselves but I can't see it TBH.


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Post by TheGreyGhost Fri 07 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm

Cheddar. Drool

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 07 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

I do think England has a problem being colonised by all these Kiwis , Safricans and Samoans who are exploiting our rugby teams. Theyll never take our cheese though.

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Post by Hood83 Fri 07 Oct 2011, 2:12 pm

Gatts wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:
tomhughesnice wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:"Educated" people. Typical English arrogance.

I was born in New Plymouth.

Thomas Waldrom was born in Upper Hutt. But he's English.

All colonials are essentially English if you think about it

I get what you're saying, but no. And some of the worst offences of colonialism were perpetrated by Scots and i dare say the Welsh. But naturally, they are absolved of all guilt now...my knowledge of British history is horribly limited, so if anyone wants to call that bluff... Very Happy

Also, i frickin love Cheddar. M+S's Cornish Cruncher has practically bankrupted me

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Post by munkian Fri 07 Oct 2011, 5:12 pm

Hood83 wrote:
Gatts wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:
tomhughesnice wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:"Educated" people. Typical English arrogance.

I was born in New Plymouth.

Thomas Waldrom was born in Upper Hutt. But he's English.

All colonials are essentially English if you think about it

I get what you're saying, but no. And some of the worst offences of colonialism were perpetrated by Scots and i dare say the Welsh. But naturally, they are absolved of all guilt now...my knowledge of British history is horribly limited, so if anyone wants to call that bluff... Very Happy

Also, i frickin love Cheddar. M+S's Cornish Cruncher has practically bankrupted me

I'll correct it "And some of the worst offences of colonialism were perpetrated against the Scots and i dare say the Welsh" OK
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Post by TrailApe Fri 07 Oct 2011, 5:40 pm

"And some of the worst offences of colonialism were perpetrated against the Scots and i dare say the Welsh"

Well given that it was a Scottish king coming down to take the English throne, and I can't prove it but I bet there are more Welsh/Scots people in England than English people in Wales/Scotland who's colonised whom?
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Post by Runster Fri 07 Oct 2011, 5:58 pm

Wales did lose to SA by 1 point, but I wonder how England would have fared, and I mean the England Of today, not the England of 2003.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:33 pm

Exactly what colonies are there in Scotland and and Wales ( unless youre still moaning about the Vikings?) A few holiday cottages hardly counts.

Talk to the Irish about all the Scotts who moved in there....or better still lets not go down this " im more opressed than you" wikipedia history lesson, some angry samoan will only wade in whinging about how he had to play on a Wednesday

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Post by lostinwales Fri 07 Oct 2011, 8:17 pm

I thought the Scots went from Ireland to Scotland...

And I cant help getting really annoyed by the excessive use of thumbsup - Its like saying 'you are a w**ker, only joking'....

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Post by Gatts Fri 07 Oct 2011, 8:36 pm

lostinwales wrote:I thought the Scots went from Ireland to Scotland...

And I cant help getting really annoyed by the excessive use of thumbsup - Its like saying 'you are a w**ker, only joking'....


thumbsup

Doh

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Post by PJHolybloke Fri 07 Oct 2011, 8:39 pm

Gatts wrote:
lostinwales wrote:I thought the Scots went from Ireland to Scotland...

And I cant help getting really annoyed by the excessive use of thumbsup - Its like saying 'you are a w**ker, only joking'....


thumbsup

Doh

Hey Gatts, I'd heard Kev had turned vegetarian and had been up all night eating potatoes, any truth in the rumour?
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Post by Gatts Fri 07 Oct 2011, 9:03 pm

PJHolybloke wrote:
Gatts wrote:
lostinwales wrote:I thought the Scots went from Ireland to Scotland...

And I cant help getting really annoyed by the excessive use of thumbsup - Its like saying 'you are a w**ker, only joking'....


thumbsup

Doh

Hey Gatts, I'd heard Kev had turned vegetarian and had been up all night eating potatoes, any truth in the rumour?

no, he just took a leek on my King Edwards

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Post by PJHolybloke Fri 07 Oct 2011, 9:04 pm

Gatts wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:
Gatts wrote:
lostinwales wrote:I thought the Scots went from Ireland to Scotland...

And I cant help getting really annoyed by the excessive use of thumbsup - Its like saying 'you are a w**ker, only joking'....


thumbsup

Doh

Hey Gatts, I'd heard Kev had turned vegetarian and had been up all night eating potatoes, any truth in the rumour?

no, he just took a leek on my King Edwards

laughing I'll chip em forward mate - you dot em down. Hug
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:09 am

Right, so are we using this as the match thread?
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Post by Cowshot Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:11 am

Since I'm watching between my fingers from behind the sofa, I don't care.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:18 am

I know that feeling cowshot!
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Post by Cowshot Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:21 am

First question is what sort of France are we going to see? The poodle or the winged ogre?

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:22 am

arrrgggg. come on england"!!!

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Post by Cymroglan Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:23 am

Good luck England.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:24 am

cheers cymro, hope to be seeing you in the semi final mate.

Was confident yesterday, but as kick off draws near that confidence has turned to full on shoiting meself!!!!
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Post by littleswannygirl Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:25 am

Thanks Cymro.

Really hope this isn't a damp squib after the great game the first QF was!
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Post by manofgwent Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:25 am

Boys. There's a much better game on ITV+1!!!
turn it on. Apparently there's some champagne rugby on there!!!

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:25 am

my confidence has melted lol

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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:27 am

Did he just say..."France block England's route to the final?"

The final? Shocked

Did someone tell Wales?

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Post by Irish Curry Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:27 am

Hopefully the French have rebelled against Leavermont and we will have a good game. Very Happy
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Post by Gatts Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:28 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Did he just say..."France block England's route to the final?"

The final? Shocked

Did someone tell Wales?

I'd say that was about 6 minutes. Take a deep breath and hold it, forever

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:29 am

Gatts wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:Did he just say..."France block England's route to the final?"

The final? Shocked

Did someone tell Wales?

I'd say that was about 6 minutes. Take a deep breath and hold it, forever

ok gatts ill give you that one.

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Post by Taylorman Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:29 am

Good luck to your team pj.
Ive a feeling france may pip this one.
Neither team stands out for in terms of ability.
With 5 finals between them compared to none in the first semi this is a battle of the heavyweights certainly.
France with a late surge to win by 6.

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Post by Cymroglan Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:29 am

Well the worst we can possibly do is finish fourth in this world cup, Who would have thought that six months ago.

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Post by Gatts Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:31 am

Cymroglan wrote:Well the worst we can possibly do is finish fourth in this world cup, Who would have thought that six months ago.

Cymro....we can finish anywhere defending like that. Defence wins rugby matches, the points bit is mere details

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:34 am

great start england!! Smile

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Post by radelven Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:35 am

Flood at IC wouldn't have been my choice for this match, but if we get through this game I think it's exactly the combination we'll need to beat Wales, control the game and pin them back, starve them of ball and frustrate them.

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Post by Cymroglan Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:39 am

We could do with a few New Zealand ground staff at the ML stadium pitch looks superb.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:42 am

oh gawddd

penalty to france- there are gonna kick

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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:43 am

Walsh doesn't like the England tactic of flopping over the tackled player supporting their weight with their arms.

It'll be interesting to see if they adjust. If not they'll be pinged off the park.

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Post by Cowshot Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:45 am

Still behind the sofa and now imbibing sedative tea.

England not good: promising but going nowhere.

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Post by Taylorman Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:45 am

France doing most of the play so far.

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Post by radelven Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:45 am

How can that be a penalty for Flood not releasing when he went in after Youngs tackled and had released.

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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat 08 Oct 2011, 8:46 am

Cowshot wrote:Still behind the sofa and now imbibing sedative tea.

England not good: promising but going nowhere.

Oh, I feel for you man. I was there a couple of weeks ago. Have faith.

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