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Post by HERSH Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:15 pm

First topic message reminder :

Last 10 meetings

26 Feb 2011 England 17 - 9 France
20 Mar 2010 France 12 - 10 England
15 Mar 2009 England 34 - 10 France
23 Feb 2008 France 13 - 24 England
13 Oct 2007 France 9 - 14 England -RWC
18 Aug 2007 France 22 - 9 England
11 Aug 2007 England 15 - 21 France
11 Mar 2007 England 26 - 18 France
12 Mar 2006 France 31 - 6 England
13 Feb 2005 England 17 - 18 France

ENGLAND - 5 Wins - FRANCE - 5 Wins


stlowe wrote:England

1 Matt Stevens
2 Steve Thompson
3 Dan Cole
4 Louis Deacon
5 Tom Palmer
6 Tom Croft
7 Lewis Moody
8 Nick Easter
9 Ben Youngs
10 Jonny Wilkinson
11 Mark Cueto
12 Toby Flood
13 Manu Tuilagi
14 Chris Ashton
15 Ben Foden

Replacements

16 Dylan Hartley
17 Alex Corbisiero
18 Courtney Lawes
19 Simon Shaw
20 James Haskell
21 Richard Wigglesworth
22 Matt Banahan



France

1 Jean-Baptiste Poux
2 William Servat
3 Nicolas Mas
4 Pascal Pape
5 Lionel Nallet
6 Thierry Dusautoir
7 Julien Bonnaire
8 Imanol Harinordoquy
9 Dimitri Yachvili
10 Morgan Parra
11 Alexis Palisson
12 Maxime Mermoz
13 Aurélien Rougerie
14 Vincent Clerc
15 Maxime Médard

Replacements

16 Dimitri Szarzewski
17 Fabien Barcella
18 Julien Pierre
19 Louis Picamoles
20 Francois Trinh-Duc
21 David Marty
22 Cédric Heymans


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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:10 am

Don't give up yet Hood - this is France...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:10 am

France have been by far the best team here,

and yep the kiwi crowd have loved seeing eng go out.

at least that tells us support their opponents in their games then.

Anyway, congrats France.

Eng have been a rabble in this tourny. I think Johnsons days are done with this shambles and the off field stuff.

So i'll get behind Wales now. Good luck Wales.

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am

Game ooooooover. Not surprised though, England just haven't turned up in the first half of any game, against real quality opposition that's just not an option.

Looking on the bright side, Leicester might win next weekend?
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Post by perand25 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am

Cueto really offers bugger all to the team,apart from the fact he always falls over


then he scores Doh


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am

yeah i see a number of years being in the bottom half of the 6n. english rugby has slowly but sure gone down the toilet.

Maybe in a few years when the talented U21 team can come through they might improve. It has worked for Wales for sure.


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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:13 am

Jonners biggest test how he deals with this.

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Post by flyhalffactory Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:13 am

That lineout says it all for Englands performance unfortunately
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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:14 am

19-14. 5 minutes. Feck

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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:15 am

Best performance today has been Walsh

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:15 am

i think he'll be fired.

surely though the shambolic wells has to go? the forward have been pants through every manager under him yet he stays, Leicester found him out years ago.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:16 am

Come on TMO, don't mess Cueto about like 07!

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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:16 am

ITS A FECKING FECKING TRY

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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:16 am

It's a try, move on.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:16 am

just give the try and move on- its a 100% try

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:17 am

well, once again a game they could have won but they first half was just awful.

so, how would you guys change the team?

proper forward coach first?

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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:18 am

jesus flood if ever a kick needed to be slotted. 7 points england come on

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:18 am

Where's Wilkinson when you need him? laughing
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Post by mckay1402 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:18 am

can england pull off the great escape?
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:19 am

no, no way. france can just grind it out now.


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Post by flyhalffactory Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:19 am

Tualagi showing lack of awareness
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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:19 am

Thought they were lucky there, definite knock on in their own 22.

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Post by mckay1402 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:19 am

who is Phil Vickery shouting at? He sounds like a beligerant old football fan
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:20 am

yeah I could not believe Tualigi drift out there.

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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:20 am

France Wales then.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:21 am

well done france.

good luck wales- hope you do them.


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Post by Portnoy Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:21 am

Fantastic performance France. Well done.
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:21 am

Broken heart for PJ today, Ireland then England. broken

Nevermind, it's only a game. Very Happy
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Post by perand25 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:21 am

Well thats it then Sad

We really didnt deserve to get any further really .

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Post by Hood83 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:22 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Don't give up yet Hood - this is France...

True, but this is also England. The whole try scoring thing isn't really our bag

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:22 am

now fire wells. darned if i'll waste my time with them until they do.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:23 am

first half cost england, but seriously well done France, put pride back in their shirt for sure clap

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Post by TheGreyGhost Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:23 am

Back luck England. I know what it feels like to go out to France in the Qfinal when you are the hot favourites. Seems tough that France have lost two matches in this cup and still make a semi. Where as England drop one and go out. I guess France just have that knock out rugby nous.


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Post by Portnoy Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:23 am

And welcome home you Tigers!!!!

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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:23 am

PJHolybloke wrote:Broken heart for PJ today, Ireland then England. broken

Nevermind, it's only a game. Very Happy

aw sh1te PJ both halves bust. Back the red man fella.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:23 am

Completely out played.

At least I can now support Wales in the semi comfortably. Leicester will be happy getting their players back

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Post by Stellar Key Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:24 am


Amazing french performance. Promises to be a unforgettable semi next week.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:25 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Back luck England. I know what it feels like to go out to France in the Qfinal when you are the hot favourites. Seems tough that France have lost two matches in this cup and still make a semi. Where as England drop one and go out. I guess France just have that knock out rugby nous.

i never had eng as favourites. it was two dire teams and wondering who'd be worst on the day sadly.

france always seemed more likely to have a good one because they're France, they do that.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:25 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Back luck England. I know what it feels like to go out to France in the Qfinal when you are the hot favourites. Seems tough that France have lost two matches in this cup and still make a semi. Where as England drop one and go out. I guess France just have that knock out rugby nous.

they do not have a superior wc knock record than england obviously- they just played better than us- its simple- no other reason GG.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:26 am

Gutted, but the reality is we were not good enough. Well done France.
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Post by Pal Joey Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:26 am

Well done France - the first half sealed it for them. A touch of Wales in there... it will be a great semi hopefully.

Commiserations England - the lads did their best but seemed to be caught off guard today.

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:27 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Back luck England. I know what it feels like to go out to France in the Qfinal when you are the hot favourites. Seems tough that France have lost two matches in this cup and still make a semi. Where as England drop one and go out. I guess France just have that knock out rugby nous.

There's a time and a place TGG, and you're very close to the line there....
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:27 am

Gatts wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:Broken heart for PJ today, Ireland then England. broken

Nevermind, it's only a game. Very Happy

aw sh1te PJ both halves bust. Back the red man fella.


Aye, I'm all Wales now Gatts - if you'll have me that is?
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Post by Hood83 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:27 am

Fair play to France, i don't even think they had to be that good to beat us.

Thought Walsh had an excellent game as well which was good to see

Entirely agree about Wells. We've really not moved forward with the old Leicester connection. I'd love to see someone like Mallett in, Johnson's selection showed a total lack of guts and nous.

I normally support France after we go out but would like to see Wales get the final now, i think they've played some decent rugby. Mind you, wouldn't mind seeing the Kiwis win as well. Maybe i'll just sulk and stop watching it all together

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:30 am

we need a "Wells must go" campaign.

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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:31 am

PJHolybloke wrote:
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PJHolybloke wrote:Broken heart for PJ today, Ireland then England. broken

Nevermind, it's only a game. Very Happy

aw sh1te PJ both halves bust. Back the red man fella.


Aye, I'm all Wales now Gatts - if you'll have me that is?
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Post by Hood83 Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:31 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Back luck England. I know what it feels like to go out to France in the Qfinal when you are the hot favourites. Seems tough that France have lost two matches in this cup and still make a semi. Where as England drop one and go out. I guess France just have that knock out rugby nous.

Classy GG, realclassy, you've been desperate to write that haven't you. Good luck for the pumas though, we're all rooting for you...honest Very Happy

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Post by maestegmafia Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:32 am

TheGreyGhost wrote:Back luck England. I know what it feels like to go out to France in the Qfinal when you are the host favourites. Seems tough that France have lost two matches in this cup and still make a semi. Where as England drop one and go out. I guess France just have that knock out rugby nous.

I dont think France were showing their hand in the pools...!


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Post by Gatts Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:32 am

trebellbobaggins wrote:we need a "Wells must go" campaign.

Only Wells? Who picks a 12 who can't break the gainline? Jonny - Flood is not Jonny - Catt and that is where it came from.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:32 am

The turning point for me was losing that first lineout in a great position. France grew in confidence from there. Hope Wales do them in.

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Post by tomathy Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:32 am

mystiroakey wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:Back luck England. I know what it feels like to go out to France in the Qfinal when you are the hot favourites. Seems tough that France have lost two matches in this cup and still make a semi. Where as England drop one and go out. I guess France just have that knock out rugby nous.

they do not have a superior wc knock record than england obviously- they just played better than us- its simple- no other reason GG.

I think GG was joking about the knockout rugby nous.
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