The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Pāparakāuta tawhito/Hen dafarn/Old pub: https://www.606v2.com/t15995-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub#576035

That was an unbelievable let-off for Wales anyway. Fair play to George North! To rip that ball away. Certain try.

Anyone else think these oz boys will be w.c in 2015?

That would have been the ball game.

Prop I think its impossible to call.

Nick Mallet to take England to Jerusalem in 2015.

Hard luck Wales. Kicks cost. But OZ were the better team today.

Well done Aus. They deserve it, we don't. Hooks flakiness infested the first hour for us again. Mind you if it was Kiwi that made the points Huw is making we would have to agree. We haven't beaten any good sides in this tournament.

Gutted for Wales, really hoped they could win this game, but ultimately they've not quite been good enough today.

Amongst the doom of todays defeat though, they need to remember they have plenty of positives to take away, and have a fantastic core of young talent to continue to build a side around.

Oz were just more clynical.

Priestland was a massive loss

And that is the ball game.

This game tells us more about where we are than any of the others we've played in this tournament. There's still a distinct lack of wit and invention to our play.

How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable etc.

diolch Gibbo and I agree. Well played Australia

Glas - I do agree with him to a point, perhaps disagreeing with more of how he's going about saying it.





I'm gutted

Thanks Glas - this game was not really a good indicator of how hot Wales have been. Very sloppy from both sides, frustrating to watch too.

I don't see the problem in pointing put some home truths dreamer.


And don't spout on about a WUM free zone when stag is in here. One rule for him and another for everyone else, yeah sound.

Didn't think you would Hughie.

Don't worry dreamer - hold your head high! How lucky Wales are to have a fan as dedicated and passionate as you are.

Glas, lucky, cari and the others are great fans too

Why couldn't we play like that for the whole match?!

There we go - Wales have the last word. Never say die...

We break ourselves for pride.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:And that is the ball game.

This game tells us more about where we are than any of the others we've played in this tournament. There's still a distinct lack of wit and invention to our play.

How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable etc.

Still far more invention than Ireland under Kidney.

Be proud Wales. Think how ye were feeling at the start of this Cup. This is miles from there and so many young talented players, will have learned so much from this. This team will get infinitely better. I wish they were Irish.

TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY!

Good try Wales. Anyone else think Australia have been the most disappointing team of the tournament. I had massive hopes for them.

1/2P!!!!! ah man I just started crying in the office.

That's one thing you will always get from this Welsh side we keep fighting no matter what, always keep going and giving our all. Complete dedication across the park. So proud of them.

Agree Stag, i really thought pre tournament that Aus would win it, but they have not looked like getting anywhere near with any of their performances in the competition.

I think Deans made a massive mistake in not building his backs around Barnes in either the 10 or 12 shirt. Cooper looks much better at 10 for Aus with Barnes or Giteau at 12 as opposed to a basher there like McCabe or Faingaa.

That try puts my Sportsguru pick pretty close I think.

My only real comment on Wales/Ireland in this RWC is to say that had David Pocock been fit in the pool game*, today's match would have been the 1/4 final, and on Sunday the final would have been Australia vs NZ/SA.



*Note, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Ireland vs Australia match though

Totally agree stag - so much promised but so little delivered when it really counted... but we are always like that, imo.

At least we beat the Boks - but the loss to Ireland was our low-point. No team would have got within 14 of the ABs last weekend but it was still a disappointing result.

Whilst Wales will want to compete year on year in the 6 Nations, they can now build towards 2015 in the knowledge that they have

15. Halfpenny
14. North
13.
12. Roberts
11.
10. Priestland
9. Williams

1.
2.
3.
4. Charteris
5. AW Jones
6. Lydiate
7. Warburton
8. Faletau

who will be still young enough to play but 4 years more experienced. If they can develop players in the other positions to take the mantle on from the likes of Gethin and Adam particularly, then they will be there or there or thereabouts again.

1. Geth might still be there
2. Ken Owens
3 - Mitchell?
13 - what's wrong with Foxy? Maybe Scott Williams?
11. Stoddart

dreamer, you know I am a big fan of Foxy, but from an attacking viewpoint I think there are still question marks over his partnership with Roberts, and Wales may need to look for a 13 as Roberts and Davies are really both 12's, so it may be an either/or situation for them.

What would we give for Neil Jenkins now?

Pete, Lloyd Williams gets the ball away so, so much quicker than Mike Phillips does. Yes, Phillips has scored a couple of tries, but with quicker ball tries are more likely elsewhere. Sadly I think Phillips is going to be a fixture at scrum half for a good while yet.

Am I the only one who thinks 4 year cycles are pointless. Give my 2 year cycles any time.

I like bi-cycles.

Pete - I agree, Foxy is a 12, as is Scott Williams really. Unless we move Jamie to 13? Lots of questions for us, and maybe just fingers crossed a couple more centres come through in the mean time.

Phillips has big match attitude.

luckless, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make to me, I have said Williams at 9 in the players I mentioned. Isn't Phillips going to France anyway meaning that Gatland won't select him?

Another 2 years with Kidney. I'm getting depressed now. Still, time enough to get ready for 2015 with someone who can take us where we need to be.

Have a good day regs.

red_stag wrote:Who'd you say Asbo - Weepu?

Weepu or Yachvilli

Gibbo, that's a fair point: before the tournament began we'd have been man sausage-a-hoop with getting this far. But then again, Hughie's point is perfectly valid, too: We're still losing games we should be looking to win.

One for the wall:

https://www.606v2.com/t16614-thank-you-james-hook#603760

I'm feeling argumentative now.

Unlucky Wales, oz were just better


But you play oz 4 times in the next few months, your bound to beat them once

Pete, I was agreeing with you that Lloyd Williams is one the future - and lamenting that he probably won't be one for the immediate future.

I'm signing off now. I feel really depressed. 3 games this tournament we should have won. Not good enough

Might be in later, if not, have good days all.

I had actually forgotton about Yachvilli You've made me think.

Gibbo - big problem - no backline flair. We'll get a new backs coach and keep what worked.

I think he will be, Gatland obviously likes the look of him, and as I say, he doesn't like picking players who play outside Wales, so Phillips may drop off the radar for a while.

Hey whats these rumours Rava is spreading about Tommy Bowe coming back to Ulster? Is he taking the p*** or what?!

Where's Geoff when you need him? He hasn't been around for a while.

Ozzy3213 wrote:Agree Stag, i really thought pre tournament that Aus would win it, but they have not looked like getting anywhere near with any of their performances in the competition.

I think Deans made a massive mistake in not building his backs around Barnes in either the 10 or 12 shirt. Cooper looks much better at 10 for Aus with Barnes or Giteau at 12 as opposed to a basher there like McCabe or Faingaa.

Pete, not sure I agree - Cooper looks flakiest when teams get to Genia, its got nothing to do with his IC - I think McCabe's not actually had a bad tournament

Gibson wrote:I like bi-cycles.

I am a bicycle

Here's hoping, Pete!

Hope you cheer up later, Dreamer - it's still Friday, after all!

Commiserations Welsh regs, and congrats to LB.

Managed to watch snippets of the game thanks to the link As posted on the match thread but I'll have to wait till this evening to watch it in full.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:Pete, I was agreeing with you that Lloyd Williams is one the future - and lamenting that he probably won't be one for the immediate future.

Not so sure, lucky, I think Phillips is a Gatland favourite, so it depends if he stays or not

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Ozzy3213 wrote:Agree Stag, i really thought pre tournament that Aus would win it, but they have not looked like getting anywhere near with any of their performances in the competition.

I think Deans made a massive mistake in not building his backs around Barnes in either the 10 or 12 shirt. Cooper looks much better at 10 for Aus with Barnes or Giteau at 12 as opposed to a basher there like McCabe or Faingaa.

Pete, not sure I agree - Cooper looks flakiest when teams get to Genia, its got nothing to do with his IC - I think McCabe's not actually had a bad tournament

For sure if Genia is off the boil for whatever reason it affects Cooper, I just think at times he benefits from another playmaker outside of him. McCabe has been decent, but if you asked me in any side, anywhere in the world if I would have Barnes or McCabe at 12, then it would be Barnes for me every time.

Thanks Swanny.

Just one more game to watch on Sunday night here.

Can't quite believe it's almost final time, the whole tournament's gone by in a flash!