The Wales vs England bickering thread, 2012 - PONIES ALLOWED!

[TycroesOsprey]

First topic message reminder :

OK, every year we see threads that actually contain really good rugby discussion derailed by the ongoing Wales vs England bickering and WUMMING! I will name no names. I guess we have all been guilty .

Since most of the general bickering comes from the respective fans of Wales and England ; I thought I would create a thread for it in an effort to keep decent rugby discussion relatively WUM free in other threads.

So I will begin, An article in the Western Mail today pointed out how England are copying Gatlands youthful approach with a squad that has an average age of 25 and 428 caps between them.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-news/2012/01/12/analysis-new-look-england-follow-youthful-wales-lead-91466-30105333/

Wales probable squad (once you have taken out Shane and Wellies from the World cup squad with their probable replacements) lines up at the same average age and about 820 caps between them. England are copying Wales' approcach but are way behind. Clearly all things point to a wales victory in HQ this year.

Discuss

post script

Please may I emphasise that this is a bickering and banter thread, whilst mild wumming and banter are allowed please try not to stray over the line of decency.

[damngoodOvalball]

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She's not that hot...

[TycroesOsprey]

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She's not that hot...

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[Dai Tryin]

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#still wiping the laptop[/color]

She's not that hot...

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ha haaaa

[damngoodOvalball]

I wish!

[Glas a du]

If its a choice between a woman and a horse, give me a filly every time. I've yet to meet a woman that's benn broken what, what!

[miteyironpaw]

We can only beat them when they show up to play us Morgannwg. We've beaten them home and away, and seem to own them at rugby world cups. We regularly beat them, as opposed to having one streaky win dating back 5 years Morgannwg.

Not quite sure why you are looking to try to deny this obvious fact. It must really rile you to think of England's success?

The only obvious fact is that you do not beat Australia regulary. And how would you own them in world cups, isn't it 3 all?

2003, obviously owned them.
2007, completely owned them.
Owned them home and away since.

Remind me of Wales' record against Australia recently? Or perhaps TO could just post a representative image of a pony doing a crap.

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Just aware of reality TO. You still haven't answered my question...

[HERSH]

Will the majority of Welsh fans please show some respect during the anthems this year, and you're welcome to stand up and join in with GSTQ its your song too.

[miteyironpaw]

I hope the Welsh show good ettiquette and stay to the end of the game, rather than filing out en-masse when the scoreline gets hopeless.

I hate watching the entire second half of a game in an 1/4 empty stadium - there's no atmosphere.

[Glas a du]

What do you expect Old Bean, they have no decent schools down there, what, what! Quis paget entrat and all that!

[HERSH]

Should the RFU print the match day programme in Welsh too?

[Luckless Pedestrian]

We can only beat them when they show up to play us Morgannwg. We've beaten them home and away, and seem to own them at rugby world cups. We regularly beat them, as opposed to having one streaky win dating back 5 years Morgannwg.

Not quite sure why you are looking to try to deny this obvious fact. It must really rile you to think of England's success?

The only obvious fact is that you do not beat Australia regulary. And how would you own them in world cups, isn't it 3 all?

2003, obviously owned them.
2007, completely owned them.

'Owned' must have changed its meaning and I must have missed it. When you require extra time to beat the opposition by a drop goal, and when you need their kicker to miss to allow you to escape with the win, that doesn't suggest you've 'owned' them at all.

You have a good recent record against Australia. But there's no need to lie.

[mystiroakey]

we beat em up in a wc final in there own back yard. now dont try and diminish it

[Luckless Pedestrian]

Far from it, Mysti - as I've said, you have a good recent record against the Wallabies; but it's untrue to say you 'own' them. Your record speaks for itself without wumming posters exaggerating things.

[Glas a du]

Yeah but they have owned you in cricket and league for years.

[mystiroakey]

in cricket- lol- back to back home and away ashes. The present is what matters

and i thought you were 'welsh'!!!!-Its the england and wales cricket team these days- the aussies certainly had a dominant period- maybe you welshes should start given us some better players than crofty!

[Luckless Pedestrian]

Now now, Mysti - we wouldn't have won the Ashes in 2005 if it hadn't been for the Joneses!

[mystiroakey]

ok i will give you that!

more about flinty from my pov

[Glas a du]

See, when it suits you! Hypocrites!

[miteyironpaw]

We can only beat them when they show up to play us Morgannwg. We've beaten them home and away, and seem to own them at rugby world cups. We regularly beat them, as opposed to having one streaky win dating back 5 years Morgannwg.

Not quite sure why you are looking to try to deny this obvious fact. It must really rile you to think of England's success?

The only obvious fact is that you do not beat Australia regulary. And how would you own them in world cups, isn't it 3 all?

2003, obviously owned them.
2007, completely owned them.

'Owned' must have changed its meaning and I must have missed it. When you require extra time to beat the opposition by a drop goal, and when you need their kicker to miss to allow you to escape with the win, that doesn't suggest you've 'owned' them at all.

You have a good recent record against Australia. But there's no need to lie.

Where is the lie? Australia don't seem able to buy a win against us at the moment. Are you denying that we beat them in record style at Twickenham on the last meeting? Or completely dismantled them up front in front of their home crowd before that? England have a very very good record against Australia at the moment, and playing them wouldn't worry me, I think psychologically we've got a hold on them, and this explains some of that "last minute luck" as you prefer to see it.

[Luckless Pedestrian]

I highlighted your lie in bold to make it easier, but it seems to have escaped you.

[mystiroakey]

but we do own australia!

[miteyironpaw]

We've owned them psychologically for some time. 2003 devastated the Australian psyche and probably paved the way for the Ashes success.

2007 - again as soon as the scrum started to go they knew they were beaten before half time came.

Since then, Australia have been fragile against us, culminating in the record defeat at Twickenham.

No sense of a WUM - just honest appraisal that Australia upstairs are frightened of England at the moment, but would back their ability to beat anyone else in the NH. Having a mental hold over a team buys you half a dozen points before the kickoff.

[mystiroakey]

i think you raise a very good point- mentality and rugby.

Ireland have the number on ENGLAND in ireland, Scotland had the number on us in Murryfiled, England have the number on Australia, France have the number on Ireland. but of course most importantly

ENGLAND HAVE THE NUMBER ON WALES AT TWICKERS

[Glas a du]

No problem with the post before last up to the point of "at the moment". I look forward to your next game

[miteyironpaw]

I don't comment on Wales v England, except to say I hope it's a great game, good luck to both sides and may we see something of the calibre of spectacle put on by the Irish on the last outing. Top drawer stuff. Certainly a win for Wales would only increase their momentum and self belief.

[Luckless Pedestrian]

Mitey, I bow to your ability to read the minds of Australian sportsmen.

[mystiroakey]

Mitey, I bow to your ability to read the minds of Australian sportsmen.

to be fair its n ot complicated

[Glas a du]

"Sex beer sport sex"

See!

[Luckless Pedestrian]

Anyway, enough of the Australians, who I'm sure wet themselves in terror the moment they see people with roses on their jerseys. What I really want to know is this: what was that My Little Pony business at the weekend all about? I was away and missed it all.

[HERSH]

The Computer says No.

At least we know where we stand!

[mystiroakey]

very confused by the pony thing as well

[HERSH]

I wonder if Gatland will attempt to sing the Welsh anthem again, it just looks like his heart isn't in it judging by his last effort against Scotland.

Imo, I think he mimes it.

[mystiroakey]

his wallets in it- thats all that matters

[Luckless Pedestrian]

Warren Gatland can sing 'You Make me Feel like Dancing' for all I care.

[pontylad]

Well at least he looked better than this colonial overlord attempting it for sure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIwBvjoLyZc

[miteyironpaw]

Well at least he looked better than this colonial overlord attempting it for sure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIwBvjoLyZc

That's the funniest thing I've seen since Milliband at any PMQ's.

[Luckless Pedestrian]

I don't even need to open the link to know that's John Redwood!

[miteyironpaw]

very confused by the pony thing as well

I didn't get it at all. I think TO continued with it because he worked out it was winding me up. I complained to the mods about it because it was making the page load times ridiculous and they put them all in spoilers. Personally I think pony art has no place on a rugby forum, but then I'm not a moderator.

[Luckless Pedestrian]

Art?! That wasn't art!

[miteyironpaw]

Art?! That wasn't art!

I was being generous. In the way one might say, "Hodgson: The art of the charge down".

[mystiroakey]

yum - eating a welsh cake- never had one before- its a scone type thing with raisins in it

[Guest]

welsh cakes = lush.

[TycroesOsprey]

Anyway, enough of the Australians, who I'm sure wet themselves in terror the moment they see people with roses on their jerseys. What I really want to know is this: what was that My Little Pony business at the weekend all about? I was away and missed it all.

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If you dont understand the pony meme well honestly look it up it was viral last year though a bit out of date now if your under 40 you should know.

As for whether its suitable mitey, its a banter and wumming thread that I created so like it or lump it. I tend not to like anything you post but have to endure it. if you dont like the pony meme dont post on this thread. seemples!

[Guest]

TycroesOsprey

Don't mention "viral". The latest on Wales Online is that Hook has got chickenpox!

[mystiroakey]

sweet- could he take the whole team down with him

[TycroesOsprey]

TycroesOsprey

Don't mention "viral". The latest on Wales Online is that Hook has got chickenpox!

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[Luckless Pedestrian]

If you dont understand the pony meme well honestly look it up it was viral last year though a bit out of date now if your under 40 you should know.

I'm 33 and I'm not sorry I missed it.

[Dontheman]

Tycroes,

You said it all, we will win but then again of course it won't matter as it will have been classed as a de-valued championship by then because England are in re-build mode

A win is a win is a win. Ps what's summing?

[mystiroakey]

thats correct we have the perfect out if we loose! it allows us to go in to the game unnerved

[TycroesOsprey]

loose and unnerved? sounds like my first girlfriend. do you mean lose and nerveless?

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