Munster v Leinster

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Here we go again.

Travelling in hope but not expectation. Would be great to win this one, but I would settle for a LBP and no (more) injuries.

Apparently there is hope on Mike Ross and Jamie Hagan. No word on White. They usually release an injury update on Mondays at lunchtime.

Don't fancy facing DuPreeyahhh and Botha with Jack McGrath at th. It was a credit to him as a first year LOOSE head prop that he did not get injured in those scrums against some serious experience and power

What i saw tonight was the future. Within 1 year, Madigan will force Sexton to 12 and will be a star.

Scream at me Gibbo but its coming.

eirebilly wrote:What i saw tonight was the future. Within 1 year, Madigan will force Sexton to 12 and will be a star.

Scream at me Gibbo but its coming.

He will have to get past Paddy Wallace though

Rava wrote:

eirebilly wrote:What i saw tonight was the future. Within 1 year, Madigan will force Sexton to 12 and will be a star.

Scream at me Gibbo but its coming.

He will have to get past Paddy Wallace though

Paddy is class and i am still fuming that he wasnt in the 6N team ahed of D'Arcy.

I do see Madigan forcing Sexton to 12 though.

Can't fault your thinking mate. I was trying to WUM though. Although I would say Paddy has been quite superb the last two weeks.

I am a Paddy fan to be honest. I think that he has really been badly treaten.

Stop WUMMING bearded one

Rava wrote:

eirebilly wrote:What i saw tonight was the future. Within 1 year, Madigan will force Sexton to 12 and will be a star.

Scream at me Gibbo but its coming.

He will have to get past Paddy Wallace though

Look. Ulster fans... who thought Falloon was good. Humphreys was the future at 10 for Ireland... Whitten the same...

Time to get real.

Paddy Wallace, at his peak, on his day, with a gale-force wind and the Rugby Gods behind him...
Should never ever have been even near an Irish squad. Ever. No offence. He was.. and still is - a token player.

Has to be rugby-politics, or he is Deccie's love-child. Otherwise, I cant get by it.

Magnanimous in victory, gracious in defeat, pisfed in Amsterdam.

Gibson wrote:

Rava wrote:

eirebilly wrote:What i saw tonight was the future. Within 1 year, Madigan will force Sexton to 12 and will be a star.

Scream at me Gibbo but its coming.

He will have to get past Paddy Wallace though

Look. Ulster fans... who thought Falloon was good. Humphreys was the future at 10 for Ireland... Whitten the same...

Time to get real.

Paddy Wallace, at his peak, on his day, with a force-gale wind and the Rugby Gods behind him...
Should never ever have been even near an Irish squad. Ever. No offnce. He was.. and still is - a token player.

Has to be rugby-politics, or he is Deccie's love-child. Otherwise, I cant get by it.

No offense Gibbo but on this you are full of shoite
Paddy, on his day, is one of the most naturally gifted rugby players Ireland have had. His form alone this year should have seen him start over D'Arcy.

fair play to ya gibbo for talking some sense.paddy wallace is an awful player and it still amazes me to this day as to how he was ever involved in the ireland setup.ulster fans seem to think that if an ulster player is anyway half decent he should be on the ireland team.

I would rather have James Downey then Wallace.

drsambo1928 wrote:I would rather have James Downey then Wallace.

Clearly you haven't seen any Ulster games recently then..

Dont agree Billy. At all.

Wallace is, and always has been, a 2nd/3rd choice 10/backup 12 for Ireland.

Great provincial player. Not an international.

Darcy is so far ahead of himits scary. And he's not been too good. Not bad tonight though. Was brilliant in the 1st 20 tonight. Go Joe.

I have,Wallace is always listed on the team sheet but I fail to see him on the pitch.Strange isnt it.

I am a Munster man, NOT Ulster and i do believe that Paddy was the better option that D'Arcy for the 6N.

Do some of you really feel that, on form this year, D'Arcy was the better 12?

Yeah that is strange, as he scored in the last two Ulster games, and won MOTM last night. I think you may be talking rubbish

I am a Leinster fan and i am not a fan of D'arcy, but Wallace as 12, no way, rather have Downey who is being neglected

not beyond the realms of possibility that madigan could oust sexton at all but i have seen nothing to convince me that he is a centre. l

if madigan becomes a permanent fixture at 10 im sure plenty of other sides in Europe will throw the chequebook at sexton and he will move to play out half. i may be wrong but time will tell

for now i am happy we have both

so u guys would have wallace over mcfadden?

What about Downey, I think he will be a hit for Munster next year.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:so u guys would have wallace over mcfadden?

On form this year? Yes
Overall, no.

what exactly do u mean by that billy?

I believe that McFadden will be very good one day but on current form (shown since January) Wallace has been the best 12 in Ireland.

eirebilly wrote:I believe that McFadden will be very good one day but on current form (shown since January) Wallace has been the best 12 in Ireland.

This. He has been easily the best 12 in Ireland. Not sure how anyone could disagree, he hasn't put a foot wrong, and has created so much. In fact I have absolutely no idea why people are so against him other than the fact they are being bitter..

i simply cant accept that...mcfadden has been on serious form this year which is why he was involved in the ireland setup

And have you actually seen Wallace recently? Or do you simply not accept that he is playing well..

LeinsterFan4life wrote:i simply cant accept that...mcfadden has been on serious form this year which is why he was involved in the ireland setup

OK, then why D'Arcy?

rory he got man of the match against aironi at home...that hardly shows he is better than mcfadden. wallace had his chance in the ireland team and he didnt do much.mcfadden is really looking good this year

D'Arcy should not be there.

what u mean why darcy?

Has Wallace really underperformed for Ireland?

If he has, should we then ignore any current form and not select him? That would seem very shortsighted to me.

Because D'Arcy is past it. Bring in Downey.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:rory he got man of the match against aironi at home...that hardly shows he is better than mcfadden. wallace had his chance in the ireland team and he didnt do much.mcfadden is really looking good this year

You still haven't answered my question. Have you seen much of Wallace recently, say this season for Ulster? I'm not talking about his previous games for Ireland, I am talking about his recent performances for Ulster. Also, quite disrespectful to Aironi there. And Munster!

Why was D'Arcy selected over McFadden and Wallace?

eirebilly wrote:Has Wallace really underperformed for Ireland?

If he has, should we then ignore any current form and not select him? That would seem very shortsighted to me.

Furthermore on that basis we should drop McFadden for his game against Wales since he was pretty rubbish?

eirebilly wrote:Why was D'Arcy selected over McFadden and Wallace?

Je ne sais pas, Downey

drsambo1928 wrote:Because D'Arcy is past it. Bring in Downey.

Downey is just not ready yet, he will be soon

because kidney is a terrible coach who is too afraid to play young players.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

eirebilly wrote:Has Wallace really underperformed for Ireland?

If he has, should we then ignore any current form and not select him? That would seem very shortsighted to me.

Furthermore on that basis we should drop McFadden for his game against Wales since he was pretty rubbish?

I am on your side with this Rory

ye downey is a super signing for munster as is wilson for ulster

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Yeah that is strange, as he scored in the last two Ulster games, and won MOTM last night. I think you may be talking rubbish

I think you may be limited in your vision Rory.

But hey. All is fair.

eirebilly wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

eirebilly wrote:Has Wallace really underperformed for Ireland?

If he has, should we then ignore any current form and not select him? That would seem very shortsighted to me.

Furthermore on that basis we should drop McFadden for his game against Wales since he was pretty rubbish?

I am on your side with this Rory

Yes I know you are mister, you clever man! I just quoted what you said to make my point!

north would have busted threw wallace as easy as mcfadden.

Gibson wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Yeah that is strange, as he scored in the last two Ulster games, and won MOTM last night. I think you may be talking rubbish

I think you may be limited in your vision Rory.

But hey. All is fair.

Did he not score the last two games, set up tries in both games also, plus win MOTM? I must be going crazy then!

rory it was MOTM against aironi at home get over it

Just back, quick synopsis, I thought we were ridden at the breakdown, (I haven't seen the game on TV though so keep that in mind) the scrums we we were lucky to get some penalties, Marcus was getting killed and Healy took it to Botha later on. Leinster were the far better team and it proved. Sexton played solidly, he didn't have to be outstanding but he did everything well. Thorn is a great operator, but the lineouts were pathetic. Not all on Varley, but a lot of it is, the jumpers were not getting in front of their men and that's lineout play 101. Fitzgerald was the best Leinster back with ball in hand, trying to prove he is worth the cash he is looking for.


Leinster are simply a class above, whatever about injuries and all that stuff, the depth they have is unreal. Worth more than that winning margin (should have had a penalty try, Johne Murphy pulled Isa back at one stage) Downey is also pretty average.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:rory it was MOTM against aironi at home get over it

Again, have you actually watched Wallace play for Ulster recently or are you talking out of your ass?

ah thomond dont be like that.munster are still an extremely good team u have to remember that both our teams are still rusty from the 6 nations. would have been a completely different game if it was before the 6 nations and missing murray is big for munster its like leinster missing ross.TOL is just playin awful

He isn't that bad in reality, his service isn't that slow, it's those fecking steps. That was my take watching it in the stand but I will have red-tinted specs on, so I don't know if the whole breakdown issue was too bad. We got killed in the scrum,Horan isn't up to it.

no horan wasnt up for it.it was a tough night for him and also i thought the ref had a bad game and i usually rate nigel owen as one of the top refs in the world

Munster will be back, one can always count on that.