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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 05 May 2012, 2:08 pm

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Post by stnick88 Thu 10 May 2012, 4:05 pm

Twitter going mad with people asking why Steff hasnt been picked.
EFS has even said he has been the most exciting player in Europe!

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Post by Driver Thu 10 May 2012, 4:08 pm

I think if they picked Armitage and then used him after the T14 play offs it would p-iss a lot of the players off out there who worked hard for the weeks armitage wasn't there and Lancaster know's he can't have clics and split opinions on long tours like this.
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Post by stnick88 Thu 10 May 2012, 4:13 pm

No I agree I wouldnt pick him either, doesnt make sense to. Just a shame the playoff's run over.
Would of loved to see Armitage v Brussouw.

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Post by Driver Thu 10 May 2012, 4:14 pm

If Armitage is serious about playing for England again he'd come back , won't the RFU fund his wage like they have done with Morgan and Haskell?
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Post by stnick88 Thu 10 May 2012, 4:32 pm

I wouldnt rule out him returning to Irish after his contract with Toulon ends.
Don't think he would go to any other club in England.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 10 May 2012, 5:18 pm

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12321/7745721/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Haughton and Baker moving on is quite surprising.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 10 May 2012, 8:41 pm

Really surprised that Haughton and Baker are moving on, Haughton has been very good when he's played and for me was motm against Falcons.

Baker's a top talent, he'll go to a good AP team and do the same as Charlie Beech.

Again really not a fan of Dai Young - we'll replace them with Welsh players!

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Post by stnick88 Thu 10 May 2012, 8:47 pm

Garvey set for surgery on shoulder which is why he wasnt picked.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 10 May 2012, 8:52 pm

apparently its the same with James Gaskell, Although neither of them we mentioned as injured on the press release, whereas Henry Thomas was.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 10 May 2012, 8:57 pm

Necks on the line,

who is gonna win the AP??

I reckon it is gonna be Quins.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 10 May 2012, 8:58 pm

Rugby Club seemed to list Joseph amongst the back three players on there squad list.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 10 May 2012, 8:59 pm

Tigers, just look in immense form lately

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 10 May 2012, 9:02 pm

I can see Saints pipping Quins as they've come into good form - but can't see anyone beating Tigers atm. Overall Quins deserve it, that 14 game unbeaten streak at start of the season was just incredible

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Post by Guest Thu 10 May 2012, 9:07 pm

Sharples and wood(nick) injured also.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 10 May 2012, 9:15 pm

DOnt get why they dont take Easter when they select Waldrom? Not exactly as though the latter is a long-term solution for us.

Are there no Saxons games?

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Post by stnick88 Thu 10 May 2012, 9:15 pm

tigers to beat quins in final for me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 10 May 2012, 9:18 pm

I think Walds will be useful on hard pitches Chris, similar style to Morgan too so kind of suits whatever gameplan we're trying I guess

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Post by Guest Thu 10 May 2012, 9:23 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I think Walds will be useful on hard pitches Chris, similar style to Morgan too so kind of suits whatever gameplan we're trying I guess


100% agree

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 10 May 2012, 9:52 pm

There is a logic to that. if we know our first choice is it best for the team to replace them with like for like so the team gets used to it rather than someone who may be a better player?

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 10 May 2012, 10:17 pm

anyone see that SBW has been offered $1.5m a year to play for a team in Japan?

know we've done this subject to death, but never really warmed to Walds - think he's a very good player and part of the best backrow in the AP, but cant say I ever really like a guy who comes over late 20's and ends up playing for England - completely different when they are younger.

like the new cricket rule they are bringing in - can only play for England if you've lived in England for 7years after your 18th b'day - its 4years before your 18th b'day.

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Post by Guest Thu 10 May 2012, 10:20 pm

Agree Chris but Walds could
Do a job.

Love the new cricket rule. Will affect our
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 10 May 2012, 10:27 pm

how many of our players are SA in the cricket side - sure its 4/5?

i would however have made an exception for Nick Evans for the rugby - if only he didnt get those AB caps!

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Post by stnick88 Thu 10 May 2012, 10:39 pm

mate just heard on radio that henson has signed for irish?!
i have not heard and been told nothing of this and dont know what to think if it is true!

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 10 May 2012, 10:45 pm

Maybe 1 last chance from Edwards to prove his worth?! Certainly players in that Irish side who'll take none of his slacking.

Also: Pete, Chris and Matt, any chance you could do the awards by Sat night please? Some are quite close and would be good to get everyone's votes in!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 11 May 2012, 12:01 am

Am camping mate and 3G is shoite, had to find a place with free wi fi to do my team. Not back til Monday and can do awards then.
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Post by Guest Fri 11 May 2012, 6:36 am

Will do tomorrow prop. Snowed today. Henson is a massive game . You could have pay as you play but the worry Is team morale

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 11 May 2012, 7:19 am

Cheers guys! I'll aim to get it up before tour (next thurs) so I won't be able to predict on cup final I doubt!
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Post by stnick88 Fri 11 May 2012, 9:02 am

I don't think its true think my mate misheard.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 1:38 pm

15. Mike Brown
14. Tom Williams
13. George Lowe
12. Jordan Turner-Hall
11. Sam Smith
10. Nick Evans
9. Karl Dickson

1. Joe Marler
2. Joe Gray
3. James Johnston
4. Olly Kohn
5. George Robson
6. Maurie Fa'asavalu
7. Chris Robshaw (c)
8. Nick Easter

16. Rob Buchanan
17. Mark Lambert
18. Will Collier
19. Tomas Vallejos
20. Tom Guest
21. Richard Bolt
22. Rory Clegg
23. Matt Hopper

15 Ben FODEN
14 Chris ASHTON
13 George PISI
12 James DOWNEY
11 Paul DIGGIN
10 Ryan LAMB
9 Lee DICKSON (capt)
1 Soane TONGA'UIHA
2 Andy LONG
3 Brian MUJATI
4 Mark SORENSON
5 Christian DAY
6 James CRAIG
7 Phil DOWSON
8 Roger WILSON

Replacements
16 Ross MCMILLAN
17 Alex WALLER
18 Paul DORAN JONES
19 Ben NUTLEY
20 Teimana HARRISON
21 Martin ROBERTS
22 Stephen MYLER
23 Tom MAY

Should be a great game. Looking forward to seeing Karl Dickson play.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 11 May 2012, 2:18 pm

Two very contrasting styles, hope Quins beat them. See Flood hasn't made it in time and Ford is going to start, great opportunity for him.

Drew Mitchell back for Waratah's for SA tour, some comeback he was supposed to be out for year.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 2:25 pm

I think Quins will win, I'd have gone with Myler for this game myself, let Pisi and Foden create the chances and have him putting you in the right areas.

Scrum will be fascinating!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 2:32 pm

I think Flood could be the deciding factor. His absence will be vital. I've not seen a better 20 mins from a 10 as Hodgson played last week when he came on. He was ruining exeters defence.

Ford is good enough, but he will be playing a different game to Flood much more based on percentages.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 11 May 2012, 2:33 pm

Yea I probably would have too, being in decent nick lately. Imagine Saints will shade scrum, they miss Hartley though.

Can't wait!!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 2:38 pm

I will have to record that one but I think it has the chance to be a great game.

What is for sure is that there will be two great finals with the HC and AP.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 11 May 2012, 2:39 pm

Great climax to the season, Leinster & Tigers for me

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 2:43 pm

I think Ulster and Quins.

Just seems to me like Ulster's year. Providing they are full strengh then I think they have a great chance.

AP could go anyway. I think Saracens will beat Leicester tomorrow though. Providing they get Nieto on sharpish to stabalise the scrum.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 11 May 2012, 2:47 pm

The Newcastle tackle on Robinson is up on RugbyDump now - guy doesnt even wrap his arms round him. TV cameras also dont pick up on the guy punching Vunipola - surely was a yellow?

http://www.rugbydump.com/

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 11 May 2012, 2:55 pm

Personally think it's a great tackle, Robinson ducks into it which makes it look worse as Tui can't get his arms round anything.

Having heard nothing of a punch just seen Vunipola coming in with a forearm.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 3:23 pm

Bad tackle for me. High and late with no attempt to wrap the arms

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 11 May 2012, 3:29 pm

Tui should have gone after the tackle, as just lost the plot - I saw him punch Vunipola right in front of the linesman, Falcons fans in front of me couldnt believe it wasnt a straight red for the tackle alone.

To get Waldouck wound up too and you know something's gone amiss!

Watching the game and couldnt believe how bad Wayne Barnes has got at officiating compared to how good he was - seen a few games he's reffed this year and always been disappointed in him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 11 May 2012, 3:31 pm

"Falcons fans in front of me couldnt believe it wasnt a straight red for the tackle alone."

No true Falcon fan would have said that lol...he does 5 worse tackles a match than that one!

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 11 May 2012, 3:34 pm

He's a bit of a unit that bloke!

Robinson doesnt have much luck with getting smacked late - when I saw the Wasps v Saints game, Lawes got him with three giant hits, Mallinder took him off before he got sent off and threw on Manoa instead - first thing he did - poleaxe Robinson!

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 11 May 2012, 3:44 pm

Personally I'd say.......high tackle, place onto citing (if in super 15) would not give the penalty to falcons as you can see tui is wound up and winding others up.
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Post by Driver Fri 11 May 2012, 3:51 pm

To be honest i thought Tui's tackle was perfectly fine.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 3:54 pm

apart from the lateness, no arms and it being high its perfectly fine...........

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Post by Driver Fri 11 May 2012, 4:00 pm

That's the spirit Steve!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 11 May 2012, 4:04 pm

I am continually doing hits with no arms I can't help it. I know one when I see one.

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Post by Driver Fri 11 May 2012, 4:05 pm

Also Happy Birthday mate!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 11 May 2012, 4:06 pm

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:To be honest i thought Tui's tackle was perfectly fine.

You can tell who is used to watching Tui, we're just used to much worse tbh

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 11 May 2012, 4:14 pm

cider for you Steve!!!! Happy Birthday. I see your taking the 'English' view on things Run
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