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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat May 05, 2012 2:08 pm

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed May 16, 2012 1:20 pm

Can I ask for a volunteer to go back and do scorers for the Heino semi finals and the Sarries/Gloucester quarter finals please just in case of another tie break scenario thumbsup

https://www.606v2.com/t28098-heineken-cup-semi-finals
https://www.606v2.com/t27057-heineken-cup-quarter-finals

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed May 16, 2012 1:25 pm

I'll do it Wink
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed May 16, 2012 1:27 pm

I bet you would Laugh

Only takes 2 minutes guys but looks dodgy me doing it when I'm suppose to be picking the tie breaks!

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Post by Driver Wed May 16, 2012 2:01 pm

Simon Shaw signs new deal with Toulon
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Post by CJB Wed May 16, 2012 8:41 pm

Looking to freshen up side. Everyone available.

North + Beale + Whitelock I need huge for.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu May 17, 2012 8:03 am

The rugby world according to Cookie Oosthuizen(ex Springbok prop).

It is largely unknown to players and followers of the modern game that rugby started off purely as a contest for forwards in opposition in line-outs, scrums, rucks and mauls. This pitted eight men of statuesque physique, supreme fitness and superior intelligence in packs against one another.
In those days, the winner was the pack that won the most set pieces. The debasement of the game began when backs were introduced. This occurred because a major problem was where to locate the next scrum or line-out.

Selecting positions on the ground for these had become a constant source of friction and even violence.

The problem was resolved by employing forward rejects, men of small stature and limited intelligence, to run aimlessly around within the field of play.

Following a set piece, the ball would be thrown to one of them, who would establish the next location either by dropping it or by throwing it to another reject for dropping. Very occasionally, a third reject would receive the ball before it would be dropped, and crowds would wildly cheer on these rare occasions. Initially these additional players were entirely disorganized but with the passing of time they adopted set positions.

For instance, take the half-back. He was usually one of the smallest and least intelligent of the backs whose role was simply to accept the ball from a forward and to pass it on to one of the other rejects who would drop it, providing the new location for the forwards to compete. He could easily (given his general size) have been called a quarter forward or a ball monkey but then tolerance and compassion are the keys to forward play and the present euphemism was decided on.

The five-eighth plays next to the half-back and his role is essentially the same except that when pressured, he usually panics and kicks the ball.
Normally, he is somewhat taller and slightly better built than the half-back and hence his name. One-eighth less and he would have been a half-back, three-eighths more and he might well have qualified to become a forward.
The centres were opportunists who had no expertise but wanted to share in the glamour associated with forward packs. After repeated supplication to the forwards for a role in the game they would be told to get out in the middle of the field and wait for instructions. Thus, when asked where they played, they would reply "in the centre". And they remain to this day, parasites and scroungers who mostly work as lawyers or used car dealers.

You may ask, why wingers? The answer is simple. Because these were players who had very little ability and were the lowest in the backline pecking order, they were placed as far away from the ball as possible. Consequently, and because the inside backs were so diligent in their assigned role of dropping the ball whenever they received it, the main contribution to the game made by the winger was not to get involved. Their instructions were to run away as quickly as possible whenever trouble appeared, and to avoid tackles at all costs. The fact that the game was organised so that the wingers didn't get to touch the ball led to an incessant flow of complaints from them and eventually the apt description "whingers" was applied. Even though the "h" dropped off over the years, the whingeing itself unfortunately has not.

Lastly, the full-back. This was the position given to the worst handler, the person least able to accept or pass the ball, someone who was always in the way. The name arose because the forwards would understandably become infuriated by the poor play invariably demonstrated by that person, and call out "send that fool back". He would then be relegated well out of everyone's way to the rear of the field.

So there you have it. Let's return to the glory days of a contest between two packs of eight men of statuesque physique, supreme fitness and superior intelligence.

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Post by Driver Thu May 17, 2012 8:54 am

He's like the opposit of Chris
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu May 17, 2012 8:56 am

I believe that is the correct history of the game and perhaps we ought to go back to playing 8 a side and dispense with the girls from 9-15 Wink
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Post by dammit_chris Thu May 17, 2012 9:54 am

Pete for a second there I thought you were giving an account about how Newcastle played most of their rugby this season Wink

Imagine that, letting the guys who can't run and can barely catch more time with a rugby ball - talk about going back to the dark ages!

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Post by stnick88 Thu May 17, 2012 10:05 am

that would be the most boring game ever!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu May 17, 2012 10:21 am

Looking at the possibility of releasing players such as Jauzion, M.Lund and Tuilagi.

If you're interested come let me know

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Post by prop_lyd Thu May 17, 2012 10:22 am

I'm all for getting rid of those 9-15's!! Means rugby will be hard again and not about tan and hair-do's Wink
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu May 17, 2012 10:23 am

Joe Marler....... Whistle

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Post by prop_lyd Thu May 17, 2012 10:25 am

He's english so that's his excuse Wink
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu May 17, 2012 2:00 pm

Heino final predictions are open OK
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Post by CJB Thu May 17, 2012 11:44 pm

Back three players available...TNW/Fielden/Toeava
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 7:35 am

Higginbottom signs for Rebels

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_7763175,00.html

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Post by dammit_chris Fri May 18, 2012 7:56 am

Just saw that too Pooly - must be a typo as he's clearly not a back...

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Post by Driver Fri May 18, 2012 7:58 am

Drew Mitchell named in Tahs South Africa tour squad
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Post by stnick88 Fri May 18, 2012 8:49 am

lawson signs for falcons


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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 9:39 am

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7761518,00.html

as mentioned here last week!!


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 9:46 am

When did we talk about McCaw at 8? Did I miss that??

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Post by Driver Fri May 18, 2012 9:50 am

Think he was on about Carter at 10


Whilst Taylor is injured I may add ;-)
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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 11:25 am

Was talking about Carter having been kicking in training and ready to play 10 again.

Fingers crossed he is injury free for a while. Between him and Mccaw they have not played much rugby lately

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri May 18, 2012 11:48 am

McCaw never seems to play much in Super rugby but don't remember him missing a international.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri May 18, 2012 11:52 am

How old is McCaw now? He's got to go down as one of the best, if not the best no7 of all time surely?

Same with Carter as a no10 - think both a absolutely awesome players.

Do people have a favourite team of the pro era? Or say from 2000 onwards.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 11:57 am

I think they both tend to get wrapped in cotton wool a bit, McCaw more so bring a forward. McCaw seems to use the S15 to get fit for Ints these days

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 11:59 am

Think McCaw 31 & Carter 30, two great players over last decade.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri May 18, 2012 12:22 pm

Full strength Ulster. My god they have a great chance with that side.

ULSTER: Stefan Terblanche; Andrew Trimble, Darren Cave, Paddy Wallace, Craig Gilroy; Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar (1-8) Tom Court, Rory Best, John Afoa, Johann Muller (Captain), Dan Tuohy, Stephen Ferris, Chris Henry, Pedrie Wannenburg

Replacements: Nigel Brady, Paddy McAllister, Declan Fitzpatrick, Lewis Stevenson, Willie Faloon, Paul Marshall, Ian Humphreys, Adam D'Arcy

LEINSTER:

15: Rob Kearney
14: Fergus McFadden
13: Brian O'Driscoll
12: Gordon D'Arcy
11: Isa Nacewa
10: Jonathan Sexton
9: Eoin Reddan

1: Cian Healy
2: Richardt Strauss
3: Mike Ross
4: Leo Cullen CAPTAIN
5: Brad Thorn
6: Kevin McLaughlin
7: Sean O'Brien
8: Jamie Heaslip

REPLACEMENTS:

16: Sean Cronin
17: Heinke van der Merwe
18: Nathan White
19: Devin Toner
20: Shane Jennings
21: Isaac Boss
22: Ian Madigan
23: David Kearney

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri May 18, 2012 12:25 pm

Stuart Barnes: Chris Henry been more effective that Stephen Ferris this campaign.

Spot on Stuart, spot on.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri May 18, 2012 12:29 pm

Really, really want Ulster to win tomorrow!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri May 18, 2012 12:32 pm

As do I.

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Post by stnick88 Fri May 18, 2012 12:37 pm

Disagree I think Ferris has been a monster.
Henry is quality though, for Ulster.

Will also massively be cheering for Ulster.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri May 18, 2012 12:39 pm

Henry has been outstanding all season for Ulster. He has put in match winning performances week in week out.

Fez hardly plays other than in the Heineken Cup, think he has played 5 of 22 Rabo games this season.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 12:44 pm

Should be a cracker, I'm not overly fussed but can't see pass Leinster

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Post by stnick88 Fri May 18, 2012 12:48 pm

See on paper I think I prefer the Ulster team.
I know Leinster are a hell of a unit with outstanding defence.

Depends how Jackson gets on at 10 as Sexton will no doubt he very good.
Don't know a lot about Jackson tbh.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri May 18, 2012 12:50 pm

Ulster should dominate the set piece.

So much depends of McLaughlin for the leinster lineout.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri May 18, 2012 12:57 pm

That is very true Steve. They have sacrificed Jennings breakdown work to have McLaughlin in there for the lineout, but I fancy Ulster to win that battle anyway with Muller leading them there.

Jackson is a very talented young 10 nick, the only question mark is whether he has the big game temprament.
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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 1:04 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Henry has been outstanding all season for Ulster. He has put in match winning performances week in week out.

Fez hardly plays other than in the Heineken Cup, think he has played 5 of 22 Rabo games this season.

Thats what happens in the Rabo and Super 15. Lots of teams do not play their strongest teams. Its what has allowed Ulster to get to the Heino.

Ferris for me easily the best 6 in the world with Kaino and Smith out.

His impact on the big games in the Heino dwarfs henrys for me

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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 1:05 pm

I will be there tomorrow cheering on Ulster.

Cant wait.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 1:06 pm

I think Leinster will do enough to get good ball in line out, scrum could go either way I think

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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 1:10 pm

I am gutted i cant do the Amlin tonight due to work. Its such a good weekend.

Buy tickets for the Amlin and Heino finals the minute they come out and you can guarantee wherever it is staged you have a good weekend with rugby.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 1:14 pm

You going tomorrow Matt?

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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 1:16 pm

Yes indeed pooly. Think Chris is going as well>

Went last year and it was amazing and deftinitely not what i expected. I was a little too drunk during the match too fully appreciate it last year so will be taking it easy pre game this year.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 1:24 pm

Lucky bugger, I reckon you should do a streak Wink

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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 1:27 pm

I dont want to bring attention to myself pooly. I will be behaving like a big enough joke after the match.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri May 18, 2012 1:41 pm

Look what happens when you take Henry out. Edinburgh unlucky not to win the semi.

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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 1:43 pm

They do miss henry and he is a good player. Especially when your back up is muldoon who is poor.

Edinburgh also have a top backrow and rennie at 7

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri May 18, 2012 2:01 pm

anonmattyt wrote:I dont want to bring attention to myself pooly. I will be behaving like a big enough joke after the match.


Love to see you try and take down Ferris, one bloke I wouldn't fancy messing with

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Post by Guest Fri May 18, 2012 2:03 pm

he is a fa nny pooly. knock him in to next week Very Happy

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