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Post by Guest Sun May 20, 2012 7:50 pm

They really believe they have the divine right to win and arrogance like you have never seen.

Prefer bath to munster which is saying something

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Post by Driver Sun May 20, 2012 8:00 pm

Big club mentality , we're the be all and end all of rugby
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Post by dammit_chris Sun May 20, 2012 8:33 pm

Munster definitely my least favourite team, completely up their own backsides - remember watching them years and years ago against Wasps and my dad got us to move seats as sat next to two Munster idiots.

There's an Irish girl in my office and she's a Leinster fan and says she prefers all English teams to Munster. Don't even think they are a good team anymore.

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Post by Driver Sun May 20, 2012 8:35 pm

Got the best controlling fly half in world rugby. I know who i'd want playing 10 if i was trying to ping the opposition back.
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Post by Driver Sun May 20, 2012 9:05 pm

Can this man just not say good goal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYjtURl4fc
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Post by dammit_chris Sun May 20, 2012 9:09 pm

i love gary neville

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Post by Driver Sun May 20, 2012 9:23 pm

He's a great pundit and footballer but i'm starting to think he gets a bit too excited.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun May 20, 2012 9:48 pm

Not sure ROG is the best controlling 10. Got to be able to control tempo as well as being able to kick for corners.

Stephen Jones was great at it as is JW.

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Post by stnick88 Mon May 21, 2012 10:54 am

JOC ruled out of June tests.

How did Cooper get on this weekend? Will he start at 10 for Aus?

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Post by dammit_chris Mon May 21, 2012 11:11 am

Nick - Cooper played for 40mins this week, looked good but was a little rusty. Reds are starting to play well again. Genia looked v good.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 11:12 am

He was only supposed to play 30 mins but ended up playing the first half and brought off at half time.

He was good I thought. He made the first try with a strong line break and the whole team seemed better for him being there. Genia was magnificent though, he seemed to be a new player last few weeks. He made 3 or 4 brilliant linebreaks in open play.

He should be ready for June tests if they need him. Get 60 mins next week and then 80 the week after and then straight in Oz side if required. depends what Deans thinks of KB at 10.

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Post by stnick88 Mon May 21, 2012 11:23 am

apparently Beale has been quality at 10 for Rebels. played well against the Force this weekend from what I saw.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 11:29 am

He has been playing well, but I think the backline would be

9. Genia
10. Cooper
11. AAC
12. McCabe
13. Faainga/Horne
14. Ioane
15. Beale

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 11:31 am

With JOC out I imagine they'll go:

9. Genia
10. Cooper

11. Ioane
12. Barnes
13. AAC
14. ??

15. Beale

Cooper & Mitchell to prove form over the next few weeks I think. Mitchell might sneak in if he can get a run. JOC out a big blow but can be absorbed by Aus tbh.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 11:32 am

I forgot about Berrick Barnes. Strictly on form I'd go McCabe as he has been vital in the Brumbies great form with Barnes on the bench or at 10 maybe.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 11:33 am

I doubt they'll go Fa'ainga/McCabe Steve, proved to offer little in attack as a pair. I still think thats a fair bit of the reason Cooper struggled at WC

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 11:34 am

Barnes has been awful but a real classy player that never has a bad game for Aus (sign of WC). MCabe has been quality but need an attacking threat outside him I think.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 11:35 am

Pack will be interesting though.

1. Ben Alexander
2. Stephen Moore
3. James Slipper
4. Rob Simmons
5. James Horwill
6. Rocky Elsom (They won't leave him out)
7. David Pocock
8. Scott Higginbottom

Would probably be my pack. Hooper and Gill putting pressure on Pocock though. Sharpe and Palu might also get a place.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 11:37 am

I don't think you'r far off..I'd go with that except front row of:

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Alexander

Robinson has been excellent and Aus's only true scrummager, big fan.

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Post by stnick88 Mon May 21, 2012 11:38 am

Sharpe been playing really well, shame he is retiring.
Reckon they are better off going Higgy at 6 and Palu at 8 to give them a bit more bulk.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon May 21, 2012 1:08 pm

Scrum.com's team of the HC:

http://www.espnscrum.com/heineken-cup-2011-12/rugby/story/164375.html

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Post by prop_lyd Mon May 21, 2012 2:00 pm

On bus back from tour, hanging!! Anything I need to know of happened in this game or the other one? P.m me is so!!
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Post by Driver Mon May 21, 2012 2:08 pm

I think they'll go

1.Robinson
2.Moore
3.Alexander
4.Simmons
5.Horwill
6.Pocock
7.Hooper
8.McCallum

9.Genia
10.Beale
11.Ioane
12.Barnes
13.McCabe
14.Mitchell
15.Ashley-Cooper


Pocock and Hooper in the back row could be a stroke of genius , Australia have the best backs in the world and would thrive off the amount of turnover ball the back row would win.
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Post by stnick88 Mon May 21, 2012 2:16 pm

lacks carrying though.
Mcalman isnt a huge carrier and neither pocock or hooper are.

see what your saying though driver.

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Post by Driver Mon May 21, 2012 2:34 pm

Suppose you could go for Palu/Samo at 8 and look to perhaps play Elsom at 4?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 2:46 pm

Ireland Squad

Backs (13): Darren Cave (Ulster), Gordon D'Arcy (Leinster), Keith Earls (Munster), Rob Kearney (Leinster), Fergus McFadden (Leinster), Conor Murray (Munster), Brian O'Driscoll (Leinster, capt), Ronan O'Gara (Munster), Eoin Reddan (Leinster), Jonathan Sexton (Leinster), Andrew Trimble (Ulster), Simon Zebo (Munster), AN Other.

Forwards (16): Rory Best (Ulster), Sean Cronin (Leinster), Stephen Ferris (Ulster), Declan Fitzpatrick (Ulster), Cian Healy (Leinster), Jamie Heaslip (Leinster), Sean O'Brien (Leinster), Donncha O'Callaghan (Munster), Peter O'Mahony (Munster), Mike Ross (Leinster), Donnacha Ryan (Munster), Mike Sherry (Munster), Dan Tuohy (Ulster), AN Other, AN Other, AN Other.


Article says spots being held for POC, Henry and Boss.



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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 2:48 pm

S15 team of the week

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7768861,00.html

Hooper v Gill next week could be huge if Hooper isn't banned.

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Post by stnick88 Mon May 21, 2012 2:48 pm

Samo has been awful this season. completely dropped from the squad.

Elsom at 4 is a big call too don't think that would be a good move.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 2:49 pm

Samo hasn't even been given a chance. They are giving youngsters a go.

Schatz anf Quirk look decent options.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 2:51 pm

Not for Oz btw. Just for the reds

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 2:52 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:S15 team of the week

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7768861,00.html

Hooper v Gill next week could be huge if Hooper isn't banned.

Richie's back!!!!!!

Impressed with Gill lately

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 2:54 pm

Gill has been impressive. Been mighty impressed with his carrying and his breakdown work is very good.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon May 21, 2012 3:11 pm

I've been pretty lucky with Gill and Cane this season - should both be good for me next year.

Thing I've found with the Aussies is that they tend to put 3-4 of their best young talents in their 7s team - Gill captained that and their u20s for a season or two - they;ve got some cracking players in their 7's team so might be worth having a look at in foreigns!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 4:13 pm

Kearney named ERC player of the year.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon May 21, 2012 5:04 pm

Well deserved, he's been outstanding this year.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 7:04 pm

He has had a great year. Him, Foden and Halfpenny are gonna have a hell of a fight for the Lions shirt.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 8:07 pm

Did we have a rule change on the HC recently?? I can't find the post. Was it going to happen to make it more competitive?

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Post by stnick88 Mon May 21, 2012 8:17 pm

undecided yet steve

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Post by Guest Mon May 21, 2012 8:30 pm

One to be voted on was my proposal of if you own a player and he is in the oppositions team he can't play for you.

The other rule was around number of eq being increased quite a bit in Heino. I was not in favour of that one.

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Post by Driver Mon May 21, 2012 8:31 pm

anonmattyt wrote:One to be voted on was my proposal of if you own a player and he is in the oppositions team he can't play for you.

Didn't they decide on that one dude?
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Post by dammit_chris Mon May 21, 2012 8:33 pm

Steve, reckon you can throw Hogg from Scotland into the mix for the 15 shirt as well - he looks some prospect! One more 6Nations to impress too.

Though how many Welsh will Gatland pick? Sure that will sway him with some of the big decisions, Lydiate/Ferris/Croft - Halfpenny/Kearney/Foden.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 8:35 pm

The back row will be ridiculously competitive.

6. Lydiate/Ferris/Croft/SOB
7. Warburton/Rennie/Wood/Robshaw
8. Heaslip/Denton/Morgan/Faletau

There are gonna be some very good players left at home.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 8:36 pm

Whilst I like Hogg Chris I think he is a little way behind those 3 atm.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon May 21, 2012 9:24 pm

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:One to be voted on was my proposal of if you own a player and he is in the oppositions team he can't play for you.

Didn't they decide on that one dude?

No decisions have been made yet. There were a few ideas put forward. Will set up a vote in the summer and go with the majority
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Post by stnick88 Mon May 21, 2012 9:30 pm

for me it is

6 Ferris or SOB
7 Warburton
8 Denton / Morgan

Think Heaslip is a good player but hasnt been at his best for a while now. croft for me a long way behind the others. robshaw and lydiate not too far behind.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon May 21, 2012 9:32 pm

I think the only person really nailed on at the moment in the back row is Warburton. He is streets ahead of the other 7's, whereas there is competition in the 6 and 8 jerseys.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 9:41 pm

I also think Warbs will be the captain which will help him.

Wonder if Gatland will take Hartley. He is in the top 3 hookers on merit but Gatland dislikes him.

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Post by Driver Mon May 21, 2012 9:44 pm

Depends really Steve , i don't think Gatland will be petty and will see the bigger picture. I think he should take Rory Best , Matt Rees and Ross Ford with Hartley just missing out.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm

Rees may not even be Wales first choice by the time the tour comes around, and Ford still suffers the yips far to often when throwing in.

On current form Best is nailed on, with not a lot between the other contenders.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon May 21, 2012 9:46 pm

Ford not upto much for me. Hartley much better.

There is a reason Ford isn't in this game.

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