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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 05 May 2012, 2:08 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 8:27 pm

Ellison has been excellent at 13

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 8:32 pm

Perera a strange omission thought he was nailed on. 3 good tight heads in that squad.

Guildford still being punished for his antics maybe. Gear bewildering omission. Cane and tamati Ellison in great form

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 8:38 pm

I'm not massivley surprised with Gear omission Matt, don't think he's a Hansen player. Guildford is though but as you say he needs to clean up and probably still in bad books.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 13 May 2012, 8:45 pm

That's not the squad to face Ireland, it's just a training squad. Kerr-Barlow on my shopping list, was hoping to sneak him in under the radar.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 8:46 pm

It is the squad which that squad will be picked from isn't it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 8:47 pm

It'll be rattled down to 30 from that squad I think, pretty much what we done in the 6N

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 8:48 pm

Tj Perera looks mustard at 9 and was named in every nz papers predicted squad

Barrett looks a great option at 10 just needs a little work on his defence but a great bench option as he can play 15 really well also

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 8:50 pm

Ken Barlow looks tidy. Better than Ellis. Cowan never going to be picked as he is 2nd choice at highlanders and his nz contract was not extended

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 8:51 pm

"Cowan never going to be picked as he is 2nd choice at highlanders and his nz contract was not extended"

And he's going to Gloucester.......

Probably the same reason Kaino isn't there

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 13 May 2012, 8:52 pm

Kaino is injured isn't he?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 8:53 pm

Yea, then off to Japan.

Faamataua & Kahui are out injured too.

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 9:11 pm

They will add a wing with kahui out you would think.

Cowan is off to Gloucester because his nz contract was not going to be extended. I am not convinced he will be good for Gloucester. Think he is just coming to boost his pension. Can't see how it can motivate him. Evans was young when he came over. I always question signing foreign players over 30

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 9:13 pm

Time will tell, he can only be an improvement on what you have currently to be frank. I'd love it if he came to Falcons.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 9:24 pm

Pleased that Cane and Savea are in the provisional squad - was going to release Savea at the start of the season for £0.5m!

All Blacks have such an amazing production line its untrue - hopefully the AP clubs will continue to play youngsters, seem to have had a lot more of them getting first team rugby this year!

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 9:25 pm

Without any props and second rows even genia may struggle if he was at glos. We are nowhere near signing anybody else and have no coach. Bad times


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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 9:27 pm

Watched highlights of crusaders losing to rebels. What are you feeding mccaw pooly he has packed on the timber.

Every crusader had a mare

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 9:29 pm

They were dire. McCaw's first start, expect him to slowly come back firing over the next few rounds.

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 9:36 pm

Has he been on the parmo's you want to get a nutritionist!!


Hard to pick a winner Of s15. No stand out side

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 9:37 pm

Wonder when Carter will start kicking....was reading AB's looking to play him 12 as he can't kick fully and they still want him involved.


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Post by stnick88 Sun 13 May 2012, 9:39 pm

playing him at 12 is crazy for me when there is 2 better options in nonu and sbw. carter not as effective at 12 as they are. on form SBW deserves the shirt.

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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 9:42 pm

Sonny Bill Williams is the form 12 in world rugby right now.










This is judging from highlights though......
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 9:42 pm

If he can't kick though what are the options?

Form backline would be:

9. Smith
10. Cruden
12. SBW
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 9:43 pm

Carter has to be invoolved somewhere though surely???

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 9:46 pm

Carter should not be 12 for ab's . Agree sbw in great form.

Expect to see carter @ 10. Apparently started kicking again.
Saw that article on planet rugby about him staying 12 but nz herald etc all say he will Be back at 10

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 9:47 pm

Cruden been good but defence not great.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 13 May 2012, 9:49 pm

when are foreigns open?
also are budgets up to date?

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 9:55 pm

No idea assume at end of season. I have quite a lot to spend it. Etzbeth, Denton and a few of the kiwi tight heads interest me.

Of the younger players I like savea's younger brother. He is in their 7s team and was best u18 player in nz so worth a punt

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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 9:58 pm

I wouldn't put it past Hansen to have him in the training squad just for his experience and to keep him up to scratch with what he's trying to do as he's going to be the man pulling the strings. I'd rest Carter and let him have a full pre-season to shake any knocks off and make sure he's ready to go next time round.

Think we could see a backline of

9.Smith
10.Cruden
11.Ben Smith
12.Williams
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Post by stnick88 Sun 13 May 2012, 9:59 pm

im thinking of going for barrett. think he would suit my SBW/Smith midfield.
denton tempting but reckon price for him will be too high.

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 10:02 pm

Think savea will start.

You would not pick dagg or smith if you based It on this weekends performances. Both had mares

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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 10:03 pm

I'v got a pretty hefty list of targets , just a miniature budget at the moment lol
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 10:06 pm

It was a strange weekend in the S15.

Read has possibly been the form 8 in world rugby, came on in 2nd half, fluffed a lineout take and made no impact.

Guildford, one of the hardest working wings about looked like he couldn't be bothered.

Guess even Crusaders can have off day

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 10:08 pm

I should get some front rowers - but imagine I will end up trying to sign backs instead...still working out who to release atm!


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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 10:10 pm

dammit_chris wrote:I should get some front rowers - but imagine I will end up trying to sign backs instead...still working out who to release atm!



I think you'v got a problem Chris , there's clinics for people obsessed with signing backs. Bryan Redpath went there , it's called Gloucester RFC
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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 10:11 pm

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dammit_chris wrote:I should get some front rowers - but imagine I will end up trying to sign backs instead...still working out who to release atm!



I think you'v got a problem Chris , there's clinics for people obsessed with signing backs. Bryan Redpath went there , it's called Gloucester RFC


Very true it does not cure them though

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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 10:14 pm

I honestly think Gloucester make terrible signings

Tom Voyce and some championship Irish reject? I'v seen Alan Tait make better signings
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 10:29 pm

Shane Monahan is a pretty decent player. He was part of a good Roth side this year.

Copeland gone to Cardiff, Dougall to Munster, Dickenson to Saints (He was at Chester on Sat, he doesn't look a prem player. Big but naturally big rather than Gym strength) and Taulava has gone to Worcester.

Gloucester have signed 36 and Ben Morgan. I wouldn't mind those at Sale

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 10:38 pm

Thing with Saints is that they have a habit of turning players with potential into extremely good players - best example is Wood, went from a good player to a very good one when he trained at Saints - Calum Clark (apart from his temper!) and James Craig both good examples too.

I do have a problem with backs - just can't be bothered with forwards, so boring unless they tackle like Lawes and Manoa.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 13 May 2012, 10:53 pm

or punch like hamilton or treviranus

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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 10:54 pm

The RFU signed Morgan more so than Gloucester Steve.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 10:57 pm

yeah punching is good for a forward - the more that get sent off the less they can ruin the game by dropping the ball in open play or getting in the way of a backs move!

am amazed by some of the breakdown work of some props nowadays though - Dan Cole is just incredible there, he gets so many turnovers in a game.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 11:20 pm

Gloucester obviously did something though.

League should be good next year. No interest in London Welsh coming up, just not a viable option for me. Rather the new Newcastle stay up.

Gonna be very competitve next year. Have to say I fear for Irish unless they get in a few forwards. Not in terms of relegation but general competitiveness.

Fancy Worcester for the drop next season.


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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 11:30 pm

Worcester definitely favourites for the drop - losing Garvey&Benjamin isn't good for them, but do really like their no8 Ben Cowan.

Wasps need another prop - like the Welsh hooker we've signed but (and I never thought I would say this) we are going to miss Broster! Signing Palmer and Haskell is going to make us stronger.

Wonder if they will put a stop to promotion from the championship - sounds like the clubs in that league are pushing for an affiliation with the people who run the AP as opposed to the RFU, mainly on the basis that the RFU failed to get them a sponsor!

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Post by stnick88 Mon 14 May 2012, 10:43 am

If anyone is releasing any props go, let me know as am after 1 for depth and will offer cash or player.

Also, am about to release Hala'ufia if anyone is interested.

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Post by CJB Mon 14 May 2012, 10:52 am

Anyone interested in DOC

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 14 May 2012, 11:50 am

For sale
PR Juan Pablo Orlandi (ARG) (3)
PR Sakaria Taulafo (Samoa) (1)
PR Nic Mayhew (E)
PR Matt Stevens (E)(1 or 3) EPS
PR Bob Baker (1 or 3)
OS Alexander Lapandy (France)
BS/OS Jake Abbott (E)
N8 Ryan Kankowski (South Africa)
CE/WG Max Evans (Scotland)
FB Eerie Claasens (South Africa) - do for £2m


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Post by prop_lyd Mon 14 May 2012, 1:09 pm

Awards updated and most are announced!!

Just need Pete to do:
Player of the year
Team of the year: 2, 11, 12 and 14

Then it'll be done!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 14 May 2012, 2:43 pm

Just got home and getting the kids settled.

Is that you only need hooker, inside centre and 2 wingers from me then for team of the year prop?
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Post by stnick88 Mon 14 May 2012, 3:34 pm

I'm guessing he means the other positions are already decided and have majority votes already

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Mon 14 May 2012, 3:38 pm

When do squads have to be trimmed down to 40?

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