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Post by Duty281 Thu 14 Jun 2012, 9:43 pm

First topic message reminder :

Ukraine v France (17:00, ITV 1)
Sweden v England (19:45, BBC 1)



Current Group Standings

Ukraine - 3
England - 1
France - 1
Sweden - 0


Group D for Day 8 of the tournament then. At 5, the co-hosts Ukraine will be looking to notch their second win of the competition by causing a shock against the French but in reality, France are strong favourites and will probably win. Then at 7:45, England will look to build on the foundations they've laid on Monday and get 3 points against a team they haven't beaten competitively in years. For Sweden, 3 points is near essential to them staying in the competition after a narrow defeat on Monday. My predictions:

Ukraine 1-2 France
Sweden 0-2 England

En-ger-land, En-ger-land, En-ger-land...

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

ive allways rated walcott

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Post by azania Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

Wellbeck has surprised me. I thought he was a cart horse. Good player for a Manc.

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Post by Gibson Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:49 pm

Good stuff England. Not a great game in quality, but great for excitement.
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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:50 pm

Good thing is that England didn't panic and got themselves back into the game and importantly retained their shape once they got back into the game.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:51 pm

gerrard should have finished it

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Post by Postie Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:51 pm

Must just say, this ref has been spot on.No nonsense and has read the game extremely well.

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:51 pm

He should've left that for the Ox!!!

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:53 pm

good win for england- good to see they could step up when it mattered..


we have to stop chilling out when we are ahead mind


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Post by Postie Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:53 pm

Phew ! Smile

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Post by Gibson Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:53 pm

Well done England. Ye Believed! clap
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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:55 pm

Ah well England got the victory. The Ukraine match will be very intersting now. England only need a draw and Ukraine needing the win. No doubt England will be mighty world beaters tomorrow, 1966 all over again bla bla but then it makes it all the more fun for the KO stages Very Happy

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:55 pm

The one thing I will say is that England have some much needed explosive pace in the team and what a difference Walcott made.

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:56 pm

shocking from england, sweden were an appaling side full of OAP's. Anyone with half a brain knew Walcott's pace would kill them. Basically looking at a QF vs Spain where it will end.

Lets be realistic this side is woeful. Also i'm expecting walcott fans to be all over this performance but up against OAP's what do you expect. Against a quality left back and defence he's embarrasingly poor. However, tonight he did well but that's because of the poor, poor opposition


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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:56 pm

we gotta try and top the group for my money

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:57 pm

Be on goal difference. Need to stop leaking the goals.

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Post by Zander Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:58 pm

Well done England, though you didn't half make me sweat. warning Walcott made the difference I think although, a very good goal from Welbeck.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:59 pm

we are one down on gd but we have more goals- so if we can win by 2 or 3- id back us to go thorugh top. obviously we need the win first!!!

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Post by Jimmy Moz Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:59 pm

My weekend just got even worse. Damn you Ireland and England.

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:00 pm

France will win group, sweden are appaling and have nothing to play for. We struggled embarrasingly against a shocking sweden and you think we're gonna walkover a Ukraine side.??????????

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:01 pm

no I dont think we will at all- however i want us to. Do you understand the difference???????????

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:02 pm

Struggled for 15 minutes all game.

Other than that Sweden done nothing.

Can't see Ukraine hurting us like the Swedes have.

Bottom line is despite not being our best we won.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:02 pm

What a rollercoaster! Let's see here, England were the better team and one bit of bit defending and a fortunate OG see Sweden in front. Tremendous spirit and a great substitution see England home, not to mention two fantastic finishes! One second:

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

Think the England team underestimated Sweden a tad, there wasn't so much hunger or intensity shown from the England team as there was against the French.

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

Time to step it up for Ukraine and win and hopefully top the group.

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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:02 pm

Im hoping Ukraine pull off a good performance against you lot. Come on Shevchenko get more goals

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Post by Postie Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:03 pm

John wrote:shocking from england, sweden were an appaling side full of OAP's. Anyone with half a brain knew Walcott's pace would kill them. Basically looking at a QF vs Spain where it will end.

Lets be realistic this side is woeful. Also i'm expecting walcott fans to be all over this performance but up against OAP's what do you expect. Against a quality left back and defence he's embarrasingly poor. However, tonight he did well but that's because of the poor, poor opposition

Well, you're a barrel of f**kin laughs ain't ya ? It was a cracking game and we showed great spirit to come back after two soft goals [b]to win !

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:04 pm

steffan you need to change your flag pal- sweden are out the tourny Very Happy

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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:05 pm

mystiroakey wrote:steffan you need to change your flag pal- sweden are out the tourny Very Happy
In process Wink

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Post by Duty281 Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:05 pm

Steffan wrote:Im hoping Ukraine pull off a good performance against you lot. Come on Shevchenko get more goals

In other words, my team is **** so anyone but England.

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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:08 pm

Done Smile

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:08 pm

Laugh

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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:09 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:Im hoping Ukraine pull off a good performance against you lot. Come on Shevchenko get more goals

In other words, my team is **** so anyone but England.
What exactly do you have against Wales? Yes we are rubbish. What is your point?

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:09 pm

thats an ugly flag btw

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:09 pm

Ashley Young had a very poor game - completely clueless for the first Swedish goal. The whole English defence disappeared for the second goal. Roy Hodgson did a good job in terms of setting the team up and changing the system when England went behind.

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Post by Postie Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:09 pm

mystiroakey wrote:we are one down on gd but we have more goals- so if we can win by 2 or 3- id back us to go thorugh top. obviously we need the win first!!!

I was more worried about this game .We came back well and deserved to win.I honestly don't think Ukraine will pose many problems.

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:11 pm

Postie wrote:I honestly don't think Ukraine will pose many problems.

That's the same Ukrainian side that beat Sweden, the same sweden side we just embarrasingly struggled against and conceded two goals.

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Post by GG Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:11 pm

Oh well. Decent effort from a team who's probably one of the three worst in the competition. Nice effort boys. clap Two flukes though we had one ourselves, think a draw would have been fair.

From an English perspective, I honestly would not be proud of that performance. This is the worst Sweden team in ages, the 2002 team is a million times better. England should have won comfortably, I was actually really surprised Sweden managed to qualify for the Euros in the first place.

Mellberg - what a player. clap

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Post by Duty281 Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:12 pm

Steffan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:Im hoping Ukraine pull off a good performance against you lot. Come on Shevchenko get more goals

In other words, my team is **** so anyone but England.
What exactly do you have against Wales? Yes we are rubbish. What is your point?

I could ask you what exactly do you have against England.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:12 pm

we had 10 minutes of madness- after that we played much better. showed us we can step up- it was possibly the best thing for england to be under the cosh early on- because we will now have so much more confidence

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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:14 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:Im hoping Ukraine pull off a good performance against you lot. Come on Shevchenko get more goals

In other words, my team is **** so anyone but England.
What exactly do you have against Wales? Yes we are rubbish. What is your point?

I could ask you what exactly do you have against England.
As we have established...Wales are not in this tournament. Who else am I meant to cheer for other than England opponents? Headscratch

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:15 pm

if anyone thinks that sweden are bad side then they may have a point- but what you all have to remember is that they are almost designed as a team to counter our football. We allways have issues with them, we have very similar styles, yet they are even more physical. And ibram could honestly do well against any team- he is a top class player- the rest nope- but against the english they are very well set

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Post by Duty281 Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:16 pm

Steffan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:Im hoping Ukraine pull off a good performance against you lot. Come on Shevchenko get more goals

In other words, my team is **** so anyone but England.
What exactly do you have against Wales? Yes we are rubbish. What is your point?

I could ask you what exactly do you have against England.
As we have established...Wales are not in this tournament. Who else am I meant to cheer for other than England opponents? Headscratch

When England didn't qualify for Euro 2008, I didn't adopt a anyone but Germany attitude.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:16 pm

Haters - what?
Haters - what?
Haters - what?

Get in England!
How many times have we seen them collapse and fail?
Not tonight. Sorted themselves out, and did the job.
They'll learn from that.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:17 pm

Steffan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Steffan wrote:Im hoping Ukraine pull off a good performance against you lot. Come on Shevchenko get more goals

In other words, my team is **** so anyone but England.
What exactly do you have against Wales? Yes we are rubbish. What is your point?

I could ask you what exactly do you have against England.
As we have established...Wales are not in this tournament. Who else am I meant to cheer for other than England opponents? Euro 2012: Day 8 Thread - Page 5 3187153522

you could allways supprt the british team as many of us would if you were in the tourny!!

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Post by Postie Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:22 pm

John wrote:
Postie wrote:I honestly don't think Ukraine will pose many problems.

That's the same Ukrainian side that beat Sweden, the same sweden side we just embarrasingly struggled against and conceded two goals.

Yes.

I won't bother replying to any more of your posts because you obviously dislike England.Personally I was chuffed to bits we won tonight and I honestly think we will beat Ukraine and possibly top the group.Take your negative, anti English comments elsewhere m8, they won't work with me. OK

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Post by GG Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:23 pm

Postie wrote:
John wrote:
Postie wrote:I honestly don't think Ukraine will pose many problems.

That's the same Ukrainian side that beat Sweden, the same sweden side we just embarrasingly struggled against and conceded two goals.

Yes.

I won't bother replying to any more of your posts because you obviously dislike England.Personally I was chuffed to bits we won tonight and I honestly think we will beat Ukraine and possibly top the group.Take your negative, anti English comments elsewhere m8, they won't work with me. OK

Haha. Someone's touchy. Not everyone will agree with you, y'know.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:23 pm

I'm Welsh, and find the "anyone but england" stance embarassing. Really embarassing.

When we get drawn against them in the qualifiers, and Welsh fans are acting like its the biggest game in the world, then you look over at the England fans who couldn't give a crap, its just another game - that's embarassing.

What Roy Keane said yesterday about Ireland is a cap that fits for Wales too. Let's worry about our own game, and our own deficiencies, and start questioning why Croatia can qualify for every tournament with a population of 3 million but we can't even get close, rather than worrying about England losing in tournaments.

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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:23 pm

Duty281 and mystiroakey...you are free to support whichever country you want in football or any other sport. I really didnt care when all the English were supporting France last October in the RWC semi-final and if by some miracle Wales qualified for a tourny and England didnt I really wouldnt take any offense at all to you lot cheering on our opponents. Get over it

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:26 pm

how anyone could be embarrased by us only beating sweden by a goal is beyond me. Does he think we are spain or germany, even those teams should just be happy to win in the groups!! esp being down and coming back.. odd comments really.

One very important thing to remember is that adding rooney is like the difference between sweden without ibram and sweden without him. Possibly a completly different team- add walcot to start and ermm, the team actually looks good. I feel as though gerrard without lampard is twice the player as well!

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:26 pm

Reality

England poor but they won. Shocking Sweden team with no pace whatsoever, Hodgson should of played Walcott from beginning it was inevitable that he would run rings around their OAP's. That said, Walcott is still poor in my opinion, if he didnt have pace he wouldnt be in the squad. Against quality teams Milner will always play as he defends and suits Hodgson's tactics. Young was dreadful as was Johnson. Terry's pace was shocking. Yes, Rooney coming back is going to add something but he hasnt played 90mins for over a month. He's a player that needs games, I can see him performing the way he was in South Africa.

Much difficult last game than france will encounter, expect both to win but France to win group on GD. Likely to face Spain in QF and we will be out.

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Post by Steffan Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:27 pm

Electric Demon wrote:I'm Welsh, and find the "anyone but england" stance embarassing. Really embarassing.

When we get drawn against them in the qualifiers, and Welsh fans are acting like its the biggest game in the world, then you look over at the England fans who couldn't give a crap, its just another game - that's embarassing.

What Roy Keane said yesterday about Ireland is a cap that fits for Wales too. Let's worry about our own game, and our own deficiencies, and start questioning why Croatia can qualify for every tournament with a population of 3 million but we can't even get close, rather than worrying about England losing in tournaments.

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In rugby I agree it is embarrassing we are better than England anyway so why care about how they do but in regards to football England and their prima donna players, thuggish fans and arrogant press are pretty much hated all across the Isles so I dont really have a problem with it. Why do you not like bilingual road signs as well. Is it becasue they have English on them?

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