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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 30 Aug 2012, 10:59 pm

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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 01 Oct 2012, 8:03 am

Tommy Bowe is back!!! 2 Tries on debut for Ulster Very Happy

Ulster are on fire this season, they look immense.

http://www.joe.ie/rugby/rugby-news/video-hes-back-watch-tommy-bowes-brilliant-brace-of-ulster-tries-last-night-0028820-1

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 01 Oct 2012, 9:34 am

Available:

TH Paul Doran-Jones (England)
LH Fabien Barcella (France)
LK Paul O'Connell (Ireland)
LK Juandre Kruger (South Africa)
LK Brad Thorn (New Zealand)
LK Yoann Maestri (France)
LK Ed Slater (England)
BS Juan Smith (South Africa)
BS Kelly Brown (Scotland)
OS Heinrich Brussow (South Africa)
OS John Barclay (Scotland)
SH Jimmy Cowan (New Zealand)
FH Colin Slade (New Zealand)
IC Scott Wiliiams (Wales) (10/10/1990)
OC Adam Ashley-Cooper (Austrailia)
WG Drew Mitchell (Austrailia)

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:19 pm

Just watching the South Africa vs. Australia game. Brutal.
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Post by Guest Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:20 pm

SA were really good and played the way SA should. Goosen really ignited what is a very good back line.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:22 pm

Saffa back row have been superb so far. Etzebeth and Bekker having their best game together in the green jersey. Australia are a shambles.
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Post by Guest Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:24 pm

Alberts and Louw were really physical and i thought Vermaulen had a good game. Vermaulen did not deserve some of the low scores i saw on some sites

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Post by stnick88 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:42 pm

http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2012-13/rugby/story/170602.html

things get worse for Sale.

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Post by Guest Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:52 pm

its early days for Sale. i think they can turn it around same with Irish. Glos would be in the same position as Irish if we had that many injuries. Both Irish and Glos have issues with quality when some front line players get injured.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:55 pm

I'm not sure we can blame injuries for getting beat by Worcester to be honest. Inability to secure restarts and some really naive decision making from experienced players really let us down. We are just playing shoite really, whoever is wearing the jerseys.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:06 pm

we were awful against worcester in the 2nd half.
the injury list isnt as bad now.

lawson, corbisiero, hala'ufia, allinson, geraghty, watson, hala'vatu.

Corbs and Hala'ufia are the obvious two we need back. also think allinson would be a good sub to bring on for o'leary as he can inject some pace and is a decent player.

Sale's poor form has suprised me as they have some decent players. peel injury is a big blow for them too.

i cant wait for the amlin games and LV now. will give irish time to gel as that is one of our main problems.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:08 pm

Habana sensational game. His quick brain and then pace for his second try was superb!

I think Australia will get beat by Argentina next week, they look clueless!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:30 pm

Only Australian who comes out with any credit from this game really is Kurtley Beale.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:47 pm

Thought Sharpe did all he could too, and Shipperley kept looking for the ball which is more than most did.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:48 pm

Yeah, I'd go along with that Luke. Have you got Louw in this game? Thought he was excellent for the Boks.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:52 pm

Yeh got him end of last season. Delighted with his form.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 02 Oct 2012, 10:29 am

Weather conditions updated on the match thread.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:08 am

Where'd you get that Salford weather Pete? Can't find anything but heavy rain?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:12 am

BBC 16:00 hours on Friday (That is the time I use for the weather for all games).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2638671
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:14 am

Didn't realise it was that precise, cool.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:17 am

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8132514,00.html

Just doesn't make sense to me. No matter how well Beale played at 10, why shift Harris or McCabe to 15? Harris at 10 and Beale at 15 surely much more sensible?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:25 am

Deans is losing the plot. The versatility of the Aussie backs has made him really indecisive, and shunting players around all over the place is never going to work. I know injuries aren't helping him right now, but he needs to get the side as settled as he can so when he does get players injured it's a simple one out one in process.

If Australia lose next week and have a poor Autumn International series then I don't think he will be an international coach in 2013.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 02 Oct 2012, 12:14 pm

The injuries oz have had does make me sympathetic, but like you say, playing someone out of position is detrimental to the side he can pick from. If McCabe starts at FB he's lost the plot.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 02 Oct 2012, 12:32 pm

AP team of week: http://www.therugbyblog.co.uk/aviva-premiership-team-of-the-week-round-5?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRugbyBlog+%28The+Rugby+Blog%29

Think most of us have a player or two in there

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 02 Oct 2012, 1:31 pm

I've not seen all the games so can't say if the team is a fair reflection of the weekends matches or not, but interesting that I have 3 of my players from this game in there, one of whom hasn't featured for me yet, and one who has only started one match for me.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 02 Oct 2012, 6:14 pm

See Payne gets a 2 week ban.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 03 Oct 2012, 8:15 am

After an openside guys, even if it's just to loan for a Couple of weeks
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 03 Oct 2012, 8:23 am

See that Brussouw has just been ruled out for 6 months, poor bloke he looked like he was coming into some form!

Nic Berry had to retire this week too at Wasps - tough sport!

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 03 Oct 2012, 9:15 am

What are people's thought's of Chris Walker/Gorgodze at openside?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Oct 2012, 9:32 am

I wouldn't play Walker but Gorgodze plays there now and again, wouldn't see an issue Prop

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:10 am

Agree with Pooly Prop (I don't think I have ever written those words before)/

Wondered how everyone is going to bring back the players from the Rugby Championship, will they be going straight back into their teams next week?

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:15 am

I'll be bringing Thomson straight back in first euro game as he hasnt played. The lads who played mostly from the bench will probably start the 2nd euro game while the starters will hopefully be involved from the bench to settle them in again for the league

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:15 am

Ok cheers guys and glad I can be part of the pooly-chris link up!!

I'm probably going to put one's who haven't played much onto the bench and rest the big ones I think
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:19 am

It hasn't finished has it???

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:23 am

Finishes this weekend so we will have them back for the first Euro game.

What do people think of Franny Steyn playing for me this week? Technically would have got him back last week because of his injury so he will of had two weeks back with us by the time of the game

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:33 am

SJE Steyn is fine to play. I am playing berrick barnes similarly. They did not play the week before as it was a rest week and the fact of the matter is that SA is on the same time zone as europe so the players will get no jet lag whatsoever. If he was coming from Aus or NZ it would be totally different. he would have had a 12 hr flight in first class overnight so no issues whatsoever.

Thats why Saracens were going to play a AP or heino match in SA

They will in essence have played one international in 2 weeks. Our Ap players have played some hard rugby in the last few weeks

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:42 am

I just need Hernandez and Albacete to come back uninjured before the rain starts hammering it down this way!

How have people rated Argentina's first year in the RC? Was amazed that they tried an expansive game against the AB's last weekend, very few teams will beat the AB's that way!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:42 am

No problem with players that didn't play last weekend.

Barnes an issue for me Matt, he's played a whole lot of brutal rugby over the last 2 month.

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:49 am

What one game in 2 weeks? The standard on here is fierce and most people have players who have played 4 games in a row in the AP. having played once in 2 weeks is not an issue.
The RCi has had 2 built in 1 week rest periods due to the logistics of the tournament.

They will be fresher than our AP players

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:55 am

in fact barnes has played 4 game in 7 weeks

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:59 am

Last week was absolute brutal Matt.

I'll be picking up on players that played last week, I won't be starting any.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:15 am

I wouldnt start any either.

Even Coetzee who has been bench player I will probably rest.

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:20 am

He played 30 minutes though?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:27 am

And got a punctured lung lol.

Be the same with other 4N players, I won't be starting AAC

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:38 am

He is bench for me now

strange how but people can have no issue with SBW playing after 2 tests in NZ flying back playing in this game jet lag and all and then have an issue with Barnes who will have no jet lag and played 4 games in 7 weeks

Anyhow roll on the end of the RC. I get so many good players back.

Wonder how long brussow will be out . Shoulder is the worst injury in rugby along with achilles. lots of people never come back from shoulders.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:42 am

he seems to just have injury after injury so is not good for him.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:43 am

6 months at least Mat from reports. Never understand how he's overlooked by the SA coach, is it purely because he just wants a whole pack who can bully another team?

Way I deal with injured players who would normally be playing for their international teams is to see them as a little bit off form, as otherwise they would be playing for their country. But think I might be the only one who does that!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:44 am

I think nearly everyone picked up on SBW - which I guess is why Pooly gave him a week or 2 off.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:45 am

SBW only played 2 games and was picked up by most. I took it on the chin, it's people's prerogative how they want to rate players.

Nick also said he had issues so not just me.

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Post by Guest Wed 03 Oct 2012, 11:58 am

It was not a barb at you Pooly. thought he was only picked up on by a couple of people.

I may invest in sending my lads to that cryotherapy place where people recover quicker!!!

At least i will not get that affected during the 6 N. Chris and a few others will have a mare around then.

Never seen a player come back in 6 months from shoulder surgery. usually 9 at least. never good news.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Oct 2012, 12:00 pm

No he got a bit of a hammering, it was a gamble as I needed him to play.

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