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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 5:34 pm

You make so much of things, only banter man. Occasionally spills over a little but you're a right fanny sometimes.

I'll admit Manu can pass a little bit, just not very often. Is that better?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 5:46 pm

How's the Quins game?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 03 Nov 2012, 5:54 pm

Referee giving a lot of pens. Quins got a try through Brown but Burns kicking everything off the tee.

Gloucester breakdown very impressive. Just really good at slowing ball and disrupting. As I speak Quins score a fine try.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 6:43 pm

Burns has to be involved with England, him and Flood are out on their own this season as candidates.

Gray showing up well, much better carrier than Hartley despite not being huge.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 6:50 pm

Wallace looks huge!! Must have put on about 10kg at least

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 11:17 pm

Watching glos game on catchup as been out for mums birthday. Qera so good. Burns needs a year. Cowan been great despite my massive reservations

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 11:30 pm

Jsd wins pen thru top defence again!! Best English wing

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 03 Nov 2012, 11:33 pm

I also think Burns should be given a year. His goal kicking is excellent, but I think rushing him in could be wrong. Think his kicking out f hand can be wasteful and inaccurate, Pleasing that he doesn't seem to have any defensive issues.

Part of me wants to see what happens, but I don't think the England side is in the right place to be blooding a young 10 who may become a strong player in seasons to come.

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 11:40 pm

Steven as ever i agree. Burns needs time, his out of hand kicking Is Average whIcj is why I went carter Barnes but it did not get noticed.

Burns is top and learning.

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 11:54 pm

As such a huge glos fan Barnes always harsh against us to be "fair" sin binning a joke. In prem football you are not allowed to ref your team. Barnes massive glos fan???

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 03 Nov 2012, 11:56 pm

sin bin was harsh.

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Post by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2012, 12:13 am

Burns goal kicking great these days. Robson most consistently excellent player in prem.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 04 Nov 2012, 8:39 am

anonmattyt wrote:Jsd wins pen thru top defence again!! Best English wing

No chance man lol

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 04 Nov 2012, 8:55 am

Likely England side v Fiji??

1. Marler
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Botha
5. Parling
6. Johnson
7. Robshaw
8. Waldroum

9. Care
10. Flood
11. Monye
12. Barritt
13. Tuilagi
14. Sharples
15. Goode

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 04 Nov 2012, 9:45 am

League Table is updated.

This weeks Anglo Welsh match thread will be up shortly.

Looking like a 4 way dog fight to avoid relegation this year, and any 4 from 8 for the play offs.
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Post by Driver Sun 04 Nov 2012, 10:24 am

Table looks to tasty.
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Post by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2012, 10:28 am

Interesting table. The game is better for the changes Pete implemented. Anglo welsh upcoming = resting players

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 1:58 pm

Looks like that will be the side Pooly. How Brown isn't at 15 I simply don't know.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:01 pm

Hearing that Burns has been called up to England squad

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:04 pm

1.Vunipola
2.Youngs
3.Cole
4.Botha
5.Parling
6.Johnson
7.Robshaw
8.Waldrom

9.Care
10.Flood
11.Money
12.Barritt
13.Tuilagi
14.Sharples
15.Goode.


For all Brown's individual brilliance , having Goode gives us another play maker in the side. Be interesting to see if SL looks at trying Brown on the wing.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:05 pm

If Vunipola starts ahead of Marler I'd be shocked. Doesn't make sense.

We only need another player maker because of the inadequacy of Barritt to create anything at all.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:07 pm

Wasps a great side to watch. Always score tries or concede them

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:08 pm

I think they'll rest Marler and save him for the bigger games , Lancaster seems to reward form as well so it's fair to say Vunipola deserves it.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:09 pm

Perhaps that is the case, I forgot we had Fiji first.

But I also think that Marler isn't at such a level where he wouldn't benefit from another international game under his belt.

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:11 pm

I meant it in the sense that he is carrying a knock i think and they would want there best LH at 100% for the All Blacks.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:14 pm

Is he injured? Missed that

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Post by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:15 pm

To not start brown is crazy. He is the form player and is very consistent.

Vunipola bench

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Post by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:18 pm

Robinson is a terrible kicker. Must be around 50%

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:21 pm

Sure i read that he was doubtful? Might be wrong like.

If he's fit he'd start for me.
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Post by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:24 pm

If he is doubtful it would be good game to try vunipola in
Rowntree has said he Is phenomenal in training

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:29 pm

"We only need another player maker because of the inadequacy of Barritt to create anything at all."

I'd say it was to do with the lack of footballers in our backline rather than Barritts fault. Barritt gets a terrible rap from a few on here, really don't understand it.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:38 pm

He gets a terrible rap from me because in my eyes he is an average rugby player at International level.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:42 pm

I think he's quality, can't think of another 12 I'd rather have at the minute.

Launchbury seems to be improving every game, real talent.

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Post by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:50 pm

Barritt plays in a position where you need attacking skills. He has none therefore is not a good international player. It's Jamie noon all over again

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:51 pm

He doesn't have none

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 04 Nov 2012, 2:53 pm

It's like me saying JSD has no defence. It might be a weak part of his game but to say he has no attacking skills is incorrect.

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Post by Driver Sun 04 Nov 2012, 3:11 pm

Joel Tomkins can't ruck for toffee.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 04 Nov 2012, 3:39 pm

Hargreaves had it all today - try, sin bin and nasty looking injury...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 3:39 pm

He is fine. Sitting on the bench now with no brace

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Post by stnick88 Sun 04 Nov 2012, 4:52 pm

welsh win. uh oh.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:41 pm

Burns and Twelvetrees called up

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:47 pm

Injury cover for JJ and JTH

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Post by Guest Sun 04 Nov 2012, 8:24 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8224225,00.html

More bad news for ireland

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 04 Nov 2012, 9:53 pm

Best, BOD, Ferris and read POC is touch and go.......nasty

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 04 Nov 2012, 10:03 pm

No SOB either! Their missing half their pack at the moment!

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Post by stnick88 Mon 05 Nov 2012, 8:41 am

Mitchell has ruled himself out of joining Sale

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 05 Nov 2012, 1:23 pm

Deserves that - Launchbury called up.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8226980,00.html

Squad looks better with Burns, Twelvetrees and Launchbury in it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 05 Nov 2012, 1:31 pm

Looked good on Sunday, bit raw but good in loose

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 05 Nov 2012, 1:58 pm

He's been like that most of the season - I know I am guilty about bigging up a lot of the youngsters in my squad, but in all honesty I think he's the best young forward I've seen play in the AP for some time - just has this something about him.

Lancaster needs to get him and similar players of potential involved in the England squad all the time like they do with NZ, Ireland etc as it will be such a benefit for them by 2015.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 05 Nov 2012, 2:03 pm

Its easier for Ireland and NZ to do though as everyone is basically contracted by the union. Lancaster is stuck with the parameters of the EPS so hasn't really got the room to have a couple of young'uns

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