The Stratospheric Supersonic Dew Drop Inn, Roswell, New Mexico

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The pub has made its way to "sleepy" Roswell New Mexico, take off point for the first ever supersonic free-fall this week.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no tampering with the pictures of Felix Baumgartner and Chris Budgen up on the wall.




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MrsP wrote:As far as I understand the B&B owners would have been very happy to allow the couple to stay in their home but not in a double room.

If you and Mr. P were asked to have separate rooms, after having booked a double would you accept it?

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Also, I just thought I'd add that the Christ who these hoteliers claim to follow said diddly squat about homosexuality. He did, however, say some stuff about loving thy neighbour as thyself, not judging lest ye be judged, let him without sin cast the first stone, that kind of thing.

Thats why cases like this annoy me. Whilst I am an avowed Atheist I come from a strongly Christian background and was raised in the church. And I know for sure through studying the Bible that the Christian thing to do would be to let them stay and to avoid judging them at all.

Unfortunately you've got a lot of hypocrites in any religion. Maybe as much as 80%.

They would not have had to use separate rooms, just separate beds.

Has happened actually.

In fact it happened to friends of ours on their honeymoon!

They didn't sue!

I don't see how they can be accused to discrimination on the grounds of sexual otientation when they have also declined to allow heterosexual couples share a double room.

Notch wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Also, I just thought I'd add that the Christ who these hoteliers claim to follow said diddly squat about homosexuality. He did, however, say some stuff about loving thy neighbour as thyself, not judging lest ye be judged, let him without sin cast the first stone, that kind of thing.

Thats why cases like this annoy me. Whilst I am an avowed Atheist I come from a strongly Christian background and was raised in the church. And I know for sure through studying the Bible that the Christian thing to do would be to let them stay and to avoid judging them at all.

Unfortunately you've got a lot of hypocrites in any religion group of people. Maybe as much as 80%.

Fixed that for you.

And yes I am a cynic when it comes to humanity

Same here, Notch, raised in the church and grateful that I was.

MrsP wrote:They would not have had to use separate rooms, just separate beds.

Would they have been allowed to push their two single beds together?

MrsP wrote:They would not have had to use separate rooms, just separate beds.

Has happened actually.

In fact it happened to friends of ours on their honeymoon!

They didn't sue!

I don't see how they can be accused to discrimination on the grounds of sexual otientation when they have also declined to allow heterosexual couples share a double room.

I can see that point. Perhaps they should have been convicted of misleading advertising ...

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:

MrsP wrote:They would not have had to use separate rooms, just separate beds.

Has happened actually.

In fact it happened to friends of ours on their honeymoon!

They didn't sue!

I don't see how they can be accused to discrimination on the grounds of sexual otientation when they have also declined to allow heterosexual couples share a double room.

I can see that point. Perhaps they should have been convicted of misleading advertising ...

I can't. It's moot as gay couples in this country can't get married, just civil partnerships. There is no direct equivalence between an unmarried straight couple and an unmarried gay couple and there won't be until there is a direct equivalence in law.

Yeah, me too. It cuts both ways... well, it should.

I had pre-booked into a hotel in Hamburg from Oz but didn't realise until I got there that it was during the same time as a week long Gay Bikie Festival. First time I'd heard about it was when I checked in at the front desk.

The lady owner had a great personality and she was not hard on the eyes or ears at all (she was a real woman!... had lived in Cairns and liked Oz a lot) She was pretty cool and calmed me down with a few cold ones. Whenever the odd guest came in they had a good laugh when they heard of my unplanned situation... she gleefully told this to every guest who walked into the joint.

That was a first time experience for me but I was left alone and hardly saw any other guests. If I'd been refused to stay it would have created the hassle and dilemma for me of wheeling bloody luggage bags down those cobblestone streets for perhaps hundreds of meters trying to find somewhere else to stay in a completely unfamiliar city. F that!

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

MrsP wrote:They would not have had to use separate rooms, just separate beds.

Would they have been allowed to push their two single beds together?

That would have been the sensible thing to do

But the B&B owners objection was to the unmarried status of the potential guests. How is that discrimination on the basis of sexuality.

Surely if you want to sue anyone in this case it should have been the government for denying this couple the right to get married.

And I don't think they have been convicted of any crime. I thought they were sued and damages were awarded for "injury to feelings!"

If this had happened to me and my other half, I wouldn't have taken the B&B owners to court. I'd have asked for a refund and left it at that.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Will he be blaming his sat-nav?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-20001098

What a plank.

I just think the decision in this case is wrong in law as it was accepted that any unmarried couple would have been treated the same way.

Just doesn't seem logical.

Dragons team to face Aviron Bayonnais:

Tom Prydie, Will Harries, Adam Hughes, Andy Tuilagi, Tonderai Chavhanga, Lewis Robling, Jonathan Evans, Owen Evans, Steve Jones, Nathan Buck, Ian Nimmo, Rob Sidoli, Tom Brown, Lewis Evans (c), Toby Faletau.

Replacements;
Sam Parry, Nathan Williams, Dan Way, Adam Jones, Jevon Groves, Liam Davies, Steffan Jones, Pat Leach.

and Bayonne:

1. Iguiniz
2. Roumieu
3. Tialata
4. Boutaty
5. Chisholm
6. Marmouyet
7. Haare
8. Puricelli
9. M.Phillips
10. Boyet
11. O'Connor
12. Lovobalavu
13. Lacroix
14. Gerber (ou Rokoçoko)
15. Spedding

Remplaçants: Da Ros, Lafont, Manukula, Linde, Baget, C.Garcia, Ugalde, Heymans.

MrsP wrote:
And I don't think they have been convicted of any crime. I thought they were sued and damages were awarded for "injury to feelings!"

Well why should they be committed of a crime? They didn't commit any.

What they've done is mildly discriminate against a gay couple and been forced to pay damages for it. It all seems fair enough.

I wasn't saying they should be, just responding to Kiwi's post.

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:

MrsP wrote:They would not have had to use separate rooms, just separate beds.

Has happened actually.

In fact it happened to friends of ours on their honeymoon!

They didn't sue!

I don't see how they can be accused to discrimination on the grounds of sexual otientation when they have also declined to allow heterosexual couples share a double room.

I can see that point. Perhaps they should have been convicted of misleading advertising ...

Unfortunately you've got a lot of hypocrites in any religion. Maybe as much as 80%.

Random made up fact alert!

I hope that was deliberate, if so comedy genius!

Decent enough team lucky. I've seen the Wasps team - if anyone is in the Amlin predicyion game go for Wasps by 50+

And sorry about interrupting this convo.

Not at all, Hound! How are you this fine Friday?

I saw a documentary about what the bible says about homosexuality before.

There’s a part in the old testament where god says something about a man lying with a man being an abomination. Basically, it’s in a passage where he’s handing down rules to some people who are trying to start a new society or trying to live through drought or famine or something, basically the folks he’s saying this to are in a bad way and he’s giving them advice on how to survive, god goes on to say that placing 2 seeds in the same hole in the ground is also an abomination and generally being wasteful is an abomination. So basically, in the context the word is used in, it means that it’s not going to help a society that living day to day and trying to survive. And the word “abomination” was obviously added in when it was translated to English.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Not at all, Hound! How are you this fine Friday?

Not feeling great tbh. I feel like I've got a cold coming on. It'll have to wait until after Sunday

I'm sure some Italian fresh air will do you the world of good!

Hound_of_Harrow wrote: Not feeling great tbh. I feel like I've got a cold coming on. It'll have to wait until after Sunday

Limoncello chasers it is then - stay warm

Mickado wrote:I saw a documentary about what the bible says about homosexuality before.

There’s a part in the old testament where god says something about a man lying with a man being an abomination. Basically, it’s in a passage where he’s handing down rules to some people who are trying to start a new society or trying to live through drought or famine or something, basically the folks he’s saying this to are in a bad way and he’s giving them advice on how to survive, god goes on to say that placing 2 seeds in the same hole in the ground is also an abomination and generally being wasteful is an abomination. So basically, in the context the word is used in, it means that it’s not going to help a society that living day to day and trying to survive. And the word “abomination” was obviously added in when it was translated to English.

Totally concur Bikkies. The point is that the B&B owners feel they were not treating couple any differently than they would have treated any other unmarried couple and the judge accepted that as true.

The issue was that the men weren't married to each other, not who that they were both men.

Just seemed the wrong fight for the court to pick is all.

Anyway, what have you Leinster ones done with Ed O'Donaghue?

Ah yeah, I get that alright.

Ed O’Donaghue singed for Wasps I thought?

He did indeed on a temporary contract but he has left them and I don't see him on the list of players on the Leinster website.

Just wondered where he'd gone?

Good question but as far as i know he was never coming back to us...?

Very odd...

Cheers boys. I'm probably more run down through work atm. This place used to be great about 2-3 years ago, but no more.

A new Sales management team, largely brought in from a competitor we bought three years ago, are basically just bully boy number crunchers. No flair, no fun and everything must be counted –I feel like I should be flying the soviet flag over my desk.

However, it was announced yesterday that a restructure and the introduction of a new system will mean that the company are going to be inviting people to apply for redundancy packages.

For me, this is an extremely attractive proposition as there is a significant lump sum involved plus I will get something like 35/80 of my pension payable from April next year. And I won’t have any fecking beeetching about time off for the Lions tour next year.



I have honestly had enough of it here and the pressure and stress has started to affect me and the way I am interacting with people.

this all comes off.

Rant over.

Forgot how frustrating my job can be!!
Last week: 11/12 come to meetings and 2 get jobs.
This week: 4/11 appear and 3 contact before to say they can't make it!

Anyway....roll on the weekend: hour and a bit to go!!!!

He's probably a bartender in the London Walkabout at this point. Vanished from the face of the earth.

He had a big chance with Ulster and he blew it through off-pitch stuff. To think he was knocking on the door of the national team in 2010! Maybe he thought he'd made it then.

That is excellent news Hound!

Really hope it all works out for you.

What would be your "dream Job" if you were to start looking again or would the hope be to enjoy the retreads?

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:Cheers boys. I'm probably more run down through work atm. This place used to be great about 2-3 years ago, but no more.

A new Sales management team, largely brought in from a competitor we bought three years ago, are basically just bully boy number crunchers. No flair, no fun and everything must be counted –I feel like I should be flying the soviet flag over my desk.

However, it was announced yesterday that a restructure and the introduction of a new system will mean that the company are going to be inviting people to apply for redundancy packages.

For me, this is an extremely attractive proposition as there is a significant lump sum involved plus I will get something like 35/80 of my pension payable from April next year. And I won’t have any fecking beeetching about time off for the Lions tour next year.



I have honestly had enough of it here and the pressure and stress has started to affect me and the way I am interacting with people.



this all comes off.

Rant over.

Sounds great Hound, mate. Hope it comes off for you. If you get bored you can always come across and freelance for me.

Fingers crossed for you, Hound!

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:Cheers boys. I'm probably more run down through work atm. This place used to be great about 2-3 years ago, but no more.

A new Sales management team, largely brought in from a competitor we bought three years ago, are basically just bully boy number crunchers. No flair, no fun and everything must be counted –I feel like I should be flying the soviet flag over my desk.

However, it was announced yesterday that a restructure and the introduction of a new system will mean that the company are going to be inviting people to apply for redundancy packages.

For me, this is an extremely attractive proposition as there is a significant lump sum involved plus I will get something like 35/80 of my pension payable from April next year. And I won’t have any fecking beeetching about time off for the Lions tour next year.



I have honestly had enough of it here and the pressure and stress has started to affect me and the way I am interacting with people.

this all comes off.

Rant over.

And in the meantime:

Did anyone else notice that the very mention of a "significant lump sum" and the wee Weegie appears?

Right, there's no one in the office (as usual) and I never have an early finish, so I think I'm going to nip off early. Hope you all enjoy the rugby this weekend (unless you support Bayonne)!

MrsP wrote:That is excellent news Hound!

Really hope it all works out for you.

What would be your "dream Job" if you were to start looking again or would the hope be to enjoy the retreads?

Ah, that’s easy. The UK rep for Trevor Brennan’s rugby tours.


All joking aside, I’m a salesman, that’s what I do; matching solutions to people’s wants and needs. The video Staggy and the TB crew put together for the Lions tour is a great piece of marketing….if you get it to the right market.

Ye ha finished up work at 3pm today...typical that never happens when Ulster are playing at home.....

SUFTUM .

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Dragons team to face Aviron Bayonnais:

Tom Prydie, Will Harries, Adam Hughes, Andy Tuilagi, Tonderai Chavhanga, Lewis Robling, Jonathan Evans, Owen Evans, Steve Jones, Nathan Buck, Ian Nimmo, Rob Sidoli, Tom Brown, Lewis Evans (c), Toby Faletau.

Replacements;
Sam Parry, Nathan Williams, Dan Way, Adam Jones, Jevon Groves, Liam Davies, Steffan Jones, Pat Leach.

and Bayonne:

1. Iguiniz
2. Roumieu
3. Tialata
4. Boutaty
5. Chisholm
6. Marmouyet
7. Haare
8. Puricelli
9. M.Phillips
10. Boyet
11. O'Connor
12. Lovobalavu
13. Lacroix
14. Gerber (ou Rokoçoko)
15. Spedding

Remplaçants: Da Ros, Lafont, Manukula, Linde, Baget, C.Garcia, Ugalde, Heymans.

Not a bad team from us. Pull your fingers out, you useless dipshoites.

Sadly for me, I have to watch the game then whizz to Brize to fly towards Africa. Was looking forward to a slurp too.

MrsP wrote:Did anyone else notice that the very mention of a "significant lump sum" and the wee Weegie appears?

cheeky minx - not bad for an old one. 50 this weekend.

Morning slackers


Submarine have a pint on me and come back for a chat.


Don't agree with the court ruling in that case, to me its just not right.

rodders wrote:Ye ha finished up work at 3pm today...typical that never happens when Ulster are playing at home.....

SUFTUM .

Gives you time to nip down to Tesco at Lisnagelvin and stock up on some for later.
Oh and get yourself a new wooden spoon. Your old one must be worn out with all the stirring you are doing elsewhere

Afternoon all.

One of our servers is down, so my deadline for this afternoon has gone out the window.

And Ozzy and Asbo have been mocking me (and Lurky) on Twitter . I ask you, what's wrong with picking a team to support in another competition, it keeps it interesting. Admittedly having more than one ...

However on the plus side the new partner launch we've been working on has smashed its targets for week 1, so the boss has given us all

And As, I have a bottle of Balvenie for the train


Roll on Exeter.

I'm getting a bit tempted to get meself onto twitter!!

Rava wrote:

rodders wrote:Ye ha finished up work at 3pm today...typical that never happens when Ulster are playing at home.....

SUFTUM .

Gives you time to nip down to Tesco at Lisnagelvin and stock up on some for later.
Oh and get yourself a new wooden spoon. Your old one must be worn out with all the stirring you are doing elsewhere

Dum dum dum.....

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

MrsP wrote:Did anyone else notice that the very mention of a "significant lump sum" and the wee Weegie appears?

cheeky minx - not bad for an old one. 50 this weekend.

...Heineken cup appearances for Paddy Wallace.

prop_lyd wrote:I'm getting a bit tempted to get meself onto twitter!!

its where its happening, my friend